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12-13-2024 , 06:38 AM

#1076

kerr

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,997

Friday night
2/3 NLH: 4 tables, 53 waiting
2/5 NLH: 14 tables, 16 waiting
2/5 PLO: 1 table, 18 waiting

Numbers like this might be the norm for the next month.

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12-18-2024 , 05:27 AM

#1077

kerr

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,997

Crown Poker room closed all day
Dec 25-26, Dec 31, Jan 1

I don’t remember this ever happening before. I wonder if they’re using these days to put in the new carpet.

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12-18-2024 , 08:03 AM

#1078

2xanman

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 205

That’s actually crazy!

I’m the past they only closed like 4AM to midday on Anzac Day, Easter Sunday, and one other day it might’ve been Christmas?

Crazy to have so much shutdown in a period that’s usually super busy, NYE is usually a big night

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12-18-2024 , 09:12 AM

#1079

kerr

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,997

The casino is always closed 4am to 12pm on Good Friday, ANZAC Day and Christmas Day, effectively 24 hours each year.

Very weird to close on Boxing Day. A lot of people coming from the cricket will be in for a shock when they see the poker area is empty / barricaded.

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12-19-2024 , 10:56 PM

#1080

2xanman

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 205

Anzac Day, Good Friday and Christmas morning are fair enough to be closed, you gotta respect the ANZACs and you NEED to be given a break if you were planning to rock up before noon on Christmas or Good Friday 🤣

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12-23-2024 , 10:49 AM

#1081

kerr

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,997

Supposedly the shutdown of the room is due to penalty rates. I can understand Christmas Day because patronage may not be high enough, I would not be surprised if the poker room closes on other public holidays next year, maybe Good Friday or even the whole four day Easter weekend.

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12-24-2024 , 01:00 AM

#1082

Happyyellowfish

newbie

Join Date: Dec 2023 Posts: 19

Anyone knows is there a tournament tonight?

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12-24-2024 , 01:12 AM

#1083

kerr

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,997

Yes the tournament IS on tonight. Cash games close at midnight, tournament will run until it has finished.

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12-24-2024 , 01:16 AM

#1084

Happyyellowfish

newbie

Join Date: Dec 2023 Posts: 19

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Originally Posted by kerr

Yes the tournament IS on tonight. Cash games close at midnight, tournament will run until it has finished.

Thank you very much!!
Merry Christmas!

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12-27-2024 , 02:39 AM

#1085

kerr

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,997

Tuesday was rather dead.

Today however, 101 on the list for 2/5 with only 4 tables running (no 2/3, with 24 waiting for the one table of PLO). Wonder if this will be the norm for the next week given penalty rates and limited staff.

They probably shouldn’t run tournaments between Xmas and NY, in fact, pre-covid, Crown only ran tournaments February to November.

Staff are suggesting it’s at least a 4 hour wait to get on a cash table.

Last edited by kerr; 12-27-2024 at 02:51 AM. Reason: cracked the ton

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12-27-2024 , 03:16 AM

#1086

rusure

stranger

Join Date: May 2023 Posts: 6

I think it's high time the state govt took away the poker monopoly from this disgraceful bunch of money-grubbing profiteers! They charge one of the highest rakes in the world (because they can), close the entire room on the most popular days, and open only a handful of tables when they DO open the room. A city of 5.2 million people deserve much better than this disgrace of a 'poker room' being allowed to continue to cynically exploit Melbourne's poker community!

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12-27-2024 , 03:46 AM

#1087

kerr

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,997

A dedicated and legal poker room would serve players far better than Crown, like what they have in Texas.

Just heard from a mate that 2/3 is running but as they would do last year, they have hidden the list. It’s visible till about 3pm or so, then they hide it, players just have to wait until they get an SMS.

Pre-covid, Crown would maintain a live site with what games were running, how many tables for each game and how many people were on each list (numbers, not names). You could also see what the Royal Flush jackpot was.

2/5 NLH list currently 104, will no doubt continue to grow, reminds me on 2020 and waiting 4 hours to get a seat.

Last edited by kerr; 12-27-2024 at 03:51 AM.

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12-27-2024 , 04:26 AM

#1088

kerr

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,997

2/5 list now at 133

I lol at those playing 2/5 and buying in for the minimum ($300).

I managed to get on the 2/3 list because it flashed for a couple minutes and I registered on the self-register terminal, then they hid the list again. Just 3 tables running, I was 53/53.

Ridiculous under the circumstances that each player will flash for 4 minutes before being removed. So if there’s one seat available and you’re 16th on the list, if they have all left, that seat is yours but you will be waiting 60 minutes to get it.

Last edited by kerr; 12-27-2024 at 04:36 AM.

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12-27-2024 , 08:52 PM

#1089

kerr

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,997

Scrolling through my text messages from Crown, I can see that in late November 2023, the message changed from 4 mins to 5 mins to collect your ticket from the registration desk. That makes the wait 25% longer when you’re down the list. They would be better off flashing an extra 1 or 2 people per seat.

And I notice that @crownpoker deleted their Twitter account recently. They hadn’t used it much post-covid.

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12-27-2024 , 11:25 PM

#1090

kerr

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,997

Poker room update, Saturday 2:20pm

2/3 NLH - 3 tables - 42 on list
2/5 NLH - 6 tables - 32 on list
2/5 PLO - 2 tables - 9 on list
10/20 FLO - 1 table - 10 on list

Looking like another under-staffed day.

Last edited by kerr; 12-27-2024 at 11:32 PM.

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12-30-2024 , 03:28 AM

#1091

2xanman

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 205

What is it like now, is it still bad?
Thinking of going tonight to play 5/10 or PLO but this sounds like a nightmare

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12-30-2024 , 06:06 AM

#1092

2xanman

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 205

Queues are crazy today too and every table is open. Its not even a public holiday

86 on the 2/5 list with 6 tables running
8 on the 2/5 PLO list with 2 tables
3 on the 5/10 list with 2 tables

No 2/3 or other games

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12-30-2024 , 12:12 PM

#1093

kerr

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,997

I’m giving the place a miss for a week. Staffing levels might be better from mid January.

Have heard they will re-do the carpet in sections without the room being closed entirely.

Also heating more rumours of AM in 2026 although they will need more floor space. Does part of the basement re-open for a month? Can they put tables somewhere else? I would love it if they (permanently) got rid of the slot machines next to the poker area. I have often wanted to smash and destroy the noisy machines.

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01-02-2025 , 12:10 AM

#1094

kerr

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,997

Against better judgement, thought I’d welcome the new year with a poker session. Thursday 3pm, 2/3 and 2/5 lists both over 50 deep. It’s getting to the point where if you don’t come at 10am you might as well not bother at all.

Will staffing levels improve in a week or two? Time will tell.

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01-02-2025 , 02:01 AM

#1095

kerr

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,997

Bumped o to a guy whose name just flashed for 2/3 NLH., he had been waiting 3.5 hours. I’m not quite that patient to get on 2/3 or 2/5, especially after having worked today. Makes for a very long day if you have to factor in a 3-4 hour wait.

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01-02-2025 , 05:53 AM

#1096

2xanman

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 205

I went and the 2/5 PLO and 5/10 has been okay over the summer - but know that’s not in the wheelhouse of most people

Also has a dealer tell me the tables cost something like $180 an hour to run, and that poker is barely profitable for them

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01-02-2025 , 06:16 PM

#1097

DrTJO

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,640

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Originally Posted by 2xanman

Also has a dealer tell me the tables cost something like $180 an hour to run, and that poker is barely profitable for them

I've heard the $180 figure before (or some variation on it). I'd like to see a breakdown of the costs, especially as we know that the dealers are paid in the $35-40 range, and Crown pays minimal rent.

Prior to the increase in the cap from $15 to $25, I added up the rake on four different occasions over the course of an hour. Average gross revenue per 2/5 table then was $283. Now with the extra $10 from hands where the pot exceeds $250, the average hourly gross is probably closer to $350.

Even if the $180 cost figure is correct, which it is reasonable to doubt, $170 net profit per table, per hour ain't bad.

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