Hate what has happened to the bigger games at Crown.
It used to be 5/5/10 NLH with a $400-$1k buy in and that would get up often, and then when the 5/10(/20) game got up it was the best game in the casino with a $1k-$3k buy-in and no rake or seating fee, just the hourly time charge. now they fkn merged the two into a weird 5/10 game that has rake and a 600-2k buyin and you cant run it twice

heartbreaking stuff

Yeah, I thought it was good if they changed 5/5 to this 5/10 with 2k buyin and 5% rake. But it just runs as 5/10/20 with smaller buy in and rake

can someone confirm the rake structure for the 5/10?

Just a q about the Crown rules - I had a dealer at 2/5 telling me he could deal me out next hand for asking a player if he'd posted a $20 overblind without checking his cards first (for the crime of "not paying attention".) Is this true or was the dealer just being a pr*ck? (He was being a super-stickler for the rules in general.)

He can't deal you out. Fk him and all the salty dealers in the world.

The player isn't under any obligation to tell anyone whether he looked at his cards or not, so it would depend on how belligerent one became (ie. refusing to act before it was confirmed whether he looked or not), but most of the time in a case like that, they call an AM over to adjudicate. Sounds to me you just got a ****head dealer.

I had the WORST one I ever had the other day. A young girl who was talking smack to all the players, constantly making mistakes, making weird noises and just generally being a turd. She thought KQ split with AQ on a Q high board, then when she was corrected, pushed the chips towards the losing player.

I know I'm not playing high stakes, but even a base level of professionalism would be appreciated.

That's nothing M8, I had a dealer in Brisbane sit down and not know which players to start dealing the cards to :')

5% $15 cap
usually no rake when theres 5 or less players
can't run it twice and it plays as a 5/10/20 straddle

5%, sweet

Thinking of taking a trip from UK to escape the cold. Poker any good here? After 5/5 and 5/10 USD equivalent if possible?

Yes and will be extra good soon with Aussie millions starting shortly.

What is the rake at 2/5 NLHE in Crown? I noticed they seemed to be taking a bunch of money out of every pot.

10% capped at $15.

Why didn’t you just ask the dealer?

It may have taken 18 months longer than it needed to, but you can now check the jackpot amount online. Currently above $143k:

https://www.crownmelbourne.com.au/poker/whats-on-today

Also what games are running ^

atm it's pretty insane, everything from 1/2 up to 300/600 omaha. I took a walk through the room and saw people with stacks bigger than my roll has ever been.

Normally the 5/10 NL might not get up, but there are multiple tables running now, and so much more PLO than I've ever seen.

If it's action you want, get down there.

Oh, and the jackpot went off Wednesday morning after at least 4 months. A woman won it on a 1/2 table. What a life!

Back to 64ish now.

Aussie millions is always the best time of the year for cash games. Often super large games as well as more weak players imo

Is there more value at 5/10 or 2/5 at Crown? Last time I played 5/10 I had trouble seeing a flop with all the raising and re-raising preflop.

Raising and re-raising preflop doesn't mean a game has any less value. There is an argument you should have no hands in your pre-flop open limp range anyway.
When it gets up, the 5/10/20 (it basically always plays with a $20 straddle) at Crown is usually a great game for that level of stakes. It's definitely a big step-up from the level of play at 2/5, and a significant step up in the size of the game, but - there is definitely money to be made.

If your roll is big enough and you are good enough you would always play the 5/10/20 over the 2/5 at Crown.

That might sound obvious - but this is unlike say Vegas where the 2/5 games are much bigger than Melb, and the 10/20 games are so much harder, where you could have the bankroll and skill to play 10/20 but you would choose to play 2/5 or 5/10 99% of the time because there is more money to be made.

Thanks 2xanman! I saw them playing with a $20 and $40 straddle the other night actually Incidentally the 2/5 occasionally plays with a $10 straddle - I assume that would offer better value than without a straddle in spite of effectively short stacking anyone buying in for $500?

Yeah when the $40 straddle is on run away lol.

Was this Sunday night on the night of the Aussie Millions final table?

That night was probably the toughest 5/10/20/40 line-up I've seen in years.
Kirsten Bircknell who cashed for $280k in the 100k super high roller was playing, and that bloke Aram who destroyed Garrett Adelstein on live at the bike was playing too ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmqyKD3nQM4 ).
Plus a bunch of other pros who were in town for the aussie millions. I ended up but people were really out there making plays.

To answer the question, when they are playing 2/5/10 it's probably a better game. a lot of players at 2/5 dont adjust well to the extra straddle and you can do pretty well

good luck on the tables mate

#1 complaint about Crown: the poker room is underground and kind of hidden from the rest of the casino. If it was part of one of the main floors, even a wing, more people would find it.

Given that the room is part of the underground carpark, phone reception is a joke. Good 4G reception is rare, usually you have to be happy with 3G or 1 or 2 bars of 4G. And to think 5G is coming. Give it time and no one will be able to get any phone reception.

Crown likes to pride itself on being one of the best poker rooms in the world, of course that is laughable. The whole room is dark and depressing, everything is either brown or dark gold, there are not enough tv screens and there are support pylons everywhere. The whole layout sucks. Go play cash when a tournament is on and they send you to a table out of sight off in another room or in a back corner. I've played in quite a few cardrooms in America and Australia and Crown would be one of my least favorite places to play.

The regulars should all agree among each other not to 'buy time' as it reduces the #hands per hour and gives the fish more time to make slightly less stupid decisions. If the fish don't see anybody else doing it they won't even know it's an option. So how about it? Spread the word!

Some people might actually need to utilise their brain when playing the game, as crazy as that may seem.