I'd be amazed if anyone actually made any money at all at 1/2. at 2/3 a decent hourly winrate is possible.

A good reg at 2/3 can roughly expect around $25 p/h. Couple of people I know that play the game regularly, make $35-40 p/h over a long sustained period. I rate their games very highly and they're a couple of the best down there. Anyone saying they make over $40p/h, samples not big enough or they're full of themselves.

Hey, I built (or building) my bankroll as a micro player so it's not really substantial at this stage to withstand the variance at the higher limits so I play the 1/2, 2/3 mainly. I can say that it is so soft that even with the rake it's fairly profitable for say a student or someone of the like. It's Limp city basically and you can't be too tricky as you will just get called down, bluffs have to be really substantial bets. But a good 3 bet in late position, creating a bit of isolation and then applying some pressure is a standard way to just grind out there. Dont have to be too tricky really. I'd say it is about equivalent to 5 10c online play at best so use similar strategies that would work there. Im no expert obviously though only been maybe 15 times, but 10 of which showed profit I think.

You know what I'm tired of people saying live 2-3 is the equivalent of playing 5-10c online or if you can beat 25-50c online you'll crush 2-5 and 5-10 live.

What a load of Baloney, if can't adjust to certain games you play you won't beat it period. I've run into countless online players who jump into a live game and just don't adjust. If your used to playing multi-tabling online and playing 5% of hands, then jumping into a live game where you might only see 20-25 hands per hour that's a huge adjustment in itself you need to make. Many online players tend to get bored, start playing too many hands and start to play overly creative.

Only last weekend I was playing 2/3 at the crown against an online internet player who claims makes 100K a year online. Watched him loose buyin after buyin trying to be too creative and exihibiting classic live tells. I admit a good online who adjusts to live play is a tough opponent, however live play is a different dynamic beast and if you can't adjust your just another fish in water.

I find it weird when live players make such statements. I find it skeptical when live players say this type of stuff. One would need about 7k hours for variance to even out live, so when live players says one can make x per hour I think that means they are hitting some sort of up-swing

EDIT: ty for replying to my question btw

You ask what a good reg can make can make at live 2/3 at the crown, then u go on to knock the answer. The hourly rates are over a 2 year period I'm pretty sure variance has evened out over this period.

Yeah was very douche. Reason being I've learned a bit about variance in the mean time.

Over approximately how many hours? I doubt you've played 7k hours over 2 years, but I suppose 2.5k hours is adequate

EDIT: you'd have to have played 25 hours a week to reach that. Variance would not have evened out over two years

lol I think I know who this is. Best value in the house if this guy is drunk?

Lol if drunk! who isn't good value when they're drunk.

I meant as opposed to no value at all if sober.

Tas and rofl,
you guys seem to be the most active regs but this open to any 2p2er. I'll be playing at crown throughout this week, mainly daytime hours. PM if you wanna say hi. I guess I wont be hard to find out as I'm one of the few Americans in the house.

Are the sitngo's still running at crown? Rake/stakes?

These things happen but there are a lot more things going on. I guess you'd miss them though if you wear headphones.

I cant wait to play at crown again. Just quit working there recently. Also know a lot about how all the games play etc as i dealt poker basically every shift for nearly 3 years. Happy to answer PM'd questions if i don't notice them here...

Wait, you can still play there even know you worked there? Thought a dealer couldn't play poker??

They have rule that forbids dealers from playing there until 3months after they have quit... magical date for me is July 11th! counting down the days tbh

EDIT: most dealers can't play poker.... well. hehe

oh **** really wow that was the only really why I didn't look into becoming a dealer. Would you recommended it as a career for a year or so? Think it would be very beneficial for my poker game, would find it interesting to observe so many people playing

are u from melb? if you are pm me.
Ill give u all the good and bad parts...

what about these pokerpros computer table things? same rake and so on?

ok just called them (3rd june 2011). So just to confirm.
for NLHE, All rake is 10% capped at $8 at the 2/3 and $10 at the 2/5. hourly is $5 at 2/3 and $10 at 2/5. All pokerpro table are lower limit (0.5/1) same rake

Is the 2/3 beatable?

Don't ever go anywhere near this. Ever.
Had the unfortunate pleasure of playing with a friend who had only played zynga poker beofer and it seems constantly infested by drunk, inbred, swashbuckling pirates. Although for some 'live regs' this is the dream evidently.

Think rake is slightly higher and not beatable. Exorbitantly wide ranges for all-in pre shorstacks and light calls all day long. Generally, the cumulative IQ of a table full of pokerpro players almost makes three digits. Although 1/2 and 2/3 aren't too many levels above that with the rare exception.

Ironically, it has a .25/.50 game for a BI of $50.00 (AFAIK), whereas 1/2 and 2/3 have a max of 60 and 66.7 BB BI respectively. lolwhat structures.

crownaments :/

There's a new poker room manager at crown now who's made some interesting changes to the structure of the games (since Friday).

2/3 NLHE ($200 max buyin) tables are now all permanently turbo (20 seconds to act) and 8 handed. Rake is still 10% up to $8, with a $5 time charge per hour.

2/5 NLHE ($500 max buyin) tables are now 10% rake in $5 increments, up to $10. This means a rake of either $5 or $10, with no rake being taken for a pot under $50, only $5 for any pot under $100. Time charge is still $10 an hour.

I haven't inquired about any of the other games. The 1/2 NLHE I believe to be unchanged.

I'm really interested to hear what people think of these changes, particularly the permanent turbo/8handed deal at the 2/3, which seems the biggest change overall.

I wouldnt mind finding out either.
The 2/3 going turbo hows that going to be do you reckon?
I mean a $1000 all in call... 20 seconds isnt a lot of time..

2/3 is super beatable. I'd say of all regs that are playing 2/3 and 5/5 a max of 5 are "good". There is one sicko. Forgot his name. Really crushes the game. A couple solid ones and the rest just sucks. You regularly get some tourists that are travelling that are above average. Rest basically sucks. Most of the regs are full of themselves. Man how I hate that Melinda, or whatever her name is, chick and her lil possy she's hanging around. Get to do whatever the f*** they want and have a free pass from the management.

Miss the Crown

Do you reckon it i better to buyin at max then top up always so you are always at the max buyin, or do you think you should play it similar to a rebuy i.e 10x small bind then push all in?