the rake is filth, but prob similar as rest of aus, games soft as fk tho. but still stay away

1/3 and 2/4 are both heavily raked at crown, 2/4 is soft whilst 1/3 is soft as ****. Does anyone think the games will get softer in October with the WSOP? Or do big events usually have no affect on the low stakes cash games?

not sure how it could get any softer.. gets very busy but can get huge wait lists when big tourneys are running. basically bigger games run more frequently so the better players move up.

not sure if trolling or you misunderstand how odds work. If crown offered 1:7 odds on your money, then you'd only win like 15c if you bet $1 and hit it. That kind of house edge is borderline criminal

I'm not sure if I agree. Because big tournaments attract more human traffic into the poker rooms, there are going to be more inexperienced people hitting the tables, and they're most likely going to be playing $2/$4. For this reason, the stronger players who usually play $5/$5 and up will actually drop down limits in order to cash in on the huge influx of weaker players. As a grinder though, it's still a good idea to play this game because the ratio of fish:shark is still super high.

sharks at 2/4? I can think of maybe 3 good players in the 2/4 pool all of which probably wouldn't beat 5/5 consistently.
5/5 regs do not drop down, they stay there or move up since there are more people playing these games also.
*Im not speculating, this is from experience from previous years.

As is the case with any casino in the world, higher games running would make lower games softer. But as is also the case, casinos worldwide prefer running lower stakes cash tables because pots are smaller so more hands are dealt per hour which means more rake. Also these tables don't break nearly as often as higher tables, so once again more rake generated.

Therefore, it would only make sense for Crown management to start implementing policies soon to stop higher games from running more often, because they want to make money off a ton of 2/4 tables running. Remember - casino is a business. And businesses want to make money. And that money is to be made from poker players who pay rake.

I haven't spent too much time at the 2/4 limit, and honestly, I can only name about half a dozen regs there that I believe to be sharks. 2 of which are proven winners at 5/5 and higher. But you're probably right that most 5/5+ regs generally don't move down.

how often does anything NL run higher then 5/5? i heard some 10/20 or something was running recently and the rake wasn't ridic. Maybe I can pay someone to text me when they run? hehe idk

whats the rake and max buyin these days?

http://www.crownpoker.com.au/cash-games

Does anyone have a decent sample play 1/3 in its current structure? Interested to see how beatable it is WRT rake..

The games are easy as: withdrawing money from ATM, sitting at a table for 2-6 hrs, leaving table, Cashing in 200+, rinse repeat

Spent a couple weeks playing at Crown during 2015 Aussie Millions. I'm US based and have been to Melbourne several times for the tournaments. Cash game at 2/4 was soft with influx of players for the tournaments. Now that the crowds are gone the cash games are back to normal, which means week days are slow and tougher than the weekends. Not surprising as this is also what happens in the US. However, the Crown has taken several steps back as a poker destination. Dealers are noticeably slower and inexperienced compared to previous years. They charge for bottled water. Not the fancy kind, but generic stuff they probably bottle themselves. Sections of the poker room now have gaming tables, which meant more cash games were run in the back room, which is dark and dreary. Some tournaments and satellites were run in the exhibition hall, which had temperature problems and was without an easy exit to the outside. Doors adjacent to the exhibition hall were locked, I guess for security reasons? As a gaming destination I expect that the restaurants should be decent. Not the case. And the food court food is marginal. Thankfully, Melbourne is still a world-class city with great places to eat that are just a short walk into the city. As for how the tournaments were run, they did a good job. The Main Event remains a great value considering the quality of players, which remains soft due to the large number of players who get in through low-cost satellites. The payout structure favors locals who satellite and are happy with a min cash. Meaning, the payout structure is seriously top-heavy. Big payouts at the top give the appearance of a healthy event, but instead prop up the prestige associated with million dollar payouts, at the expense of lower cash-outs for the rest. Slightly fewer runners this year probably wasn't significant enough to get Crown's attention.

How often, if ever at all, are games above 5/5 NLHE spread? They're not in the link.

they do get up. I often see 5/T running most nights. And if the table agrees they run a mandatory $20 straddle.

how are the 2/4 and 5/5 games at crown?
Are they just full of regs or still plenty of fish? Enough weak regs/fish to play full time ?

This fully depends on .... if you have ability or are 1 of the weak regs/fish ;P

How often does 5/10+ nlhe run during the week on average at the moment? Someone above said regularly but I haven't seen it the past few times I've been there.

I'm an online MTT amateur and I've just moved close to Crown so I'm looking to play some live cash.

Any specific tips for moving to live cash @ Crown from online MTTs? Obviously it will play a lot differently since I'm used to a lot of 30BB and under and (hopefully that will be relatively rare here. But it seems (based on reading this thread) that the live play is especially loose passive at the low levels? Obv I might try weekends and hope to reel in a few drunk fish on premiums. We will see!

I figure 1/3 will be the best spot to start at since my bankroll management is pretty non-existent and I can't really sustain losing more than 2-3 buy-ins if I run bad...or should I actually consider 1/2 even if it's slightly -EV, just to get a handle on things?

Haven't played for ages, but I would not recommend playing 1/2 at all. Play 1/3 with a full buy-in with a view to moving up to 2/4.

Hey guys, I'm looking on playing some cash games at crown, Any recommendations before going in?

Why wouldn't you play 1/2? Buy-in? Rake? Really curious to know.

how much money you got to play? play any game...there all fun and easy go at 6pm when every1 finishes work...

Just moved back to Victoria and went to play live for the first time a couple of weeks ago.

What the **** is with the rake? is it even beatable when you can only buy in with 40 bbs?

I'd recommend playing 1-3...even with ~67 BBs and a gross rake the game still seems beatable, based on how bad the average player is.