^ lol

whats the deal with this full house main event tourney? looks like the softest field in tournament history with $100k first.. how do you even qualify? and is everyone a qualifier or can you buy in?

American here been in oz last 6 months instructing scuba diving. Just arrived in Melb and planning on playing some pokerz for a week befor
e i head home. Anyone who wants to grab a.drink.pm.me!

Excuse the poor grammar, blame.my phone and.the.pints

Table 3

This thread sux alot...hope you did well at the tables yankeee

profound

Lets see if any1 is willing to start posting chip stack pics and details on nights at crown... go go go

Hey, was wondering if anyone could post how often $5/$10+ NLHE is running atm?

I was a 2/5 and 5/10 reg but dont bother with the games anymore, the players really killed it

Bumhunting became really embarrasing when the games started to dry. There were 3-4 mega fish and when they walked in people would openly argue in front of them on who gets their seat etc. Some of the fish got off on the attention, others didnt, but it stiffled the mood of everyone else in the room.

The regs became very antisocial (although always being nice, they are really boring to play with creating a dull/boring atmosphere for fish), so over the course of 6-12 months every week the games got a little worse and the fish a little more sparce. They need added 2/4 (instead of 2/3 and 2/5) which removed at least 1 table of 2/5 per night straight away.

The PLO action during the Aussie Millions was great but thats mostly because of the regs from other states and rec gamblers in town who find holdem boring. These tables still have the atmosphere you would get at a 2/5 table 2-3 years ago which people enjoy being in.

Every time I go back in there I sit down for half an hour and I'm reminded of why I dont bother. So many players doing really antisocial things, dressed poorly and openly talking strat and pointing out others bad strat to their friends on other tables.

You need to qualify through pub poker leagues, its a bit involved from what I understand but yes, it would probably be the softest field compared to prize pool size you could come accross that doesnt involve rich athletes.

Not a whole lot of PLO players available on hand to start a game of 5/5 and up, most of them are hovering around home games or just at home because they know games arent worth heading in for

Crown needs to seriously look at introducing new (but tried and true) varieties of poker games. Specifically, 5-card, draw and 7-card (with very low table stakes to entice new players) should be marketed and promoted.

Otherwise stagnation might just set in. (oh hang on, it has already......)

I'm a winning player at the star sydney casino 1/2, so many fish. Going down to melbourne for a weekend in a couple months, and advice? Is the rake just as bad? ie with timecharge and high % rake

from memory

1/2 : $40-$80 BI, $5 charge*, 10% to $15 rake
2/3 : $50-$200 BI, $5 charge*, 10% to $12 rake
2/4 : $200-$400 BI, $5 charge*, 10% to $8 rake
* - one-off sit-down charge

I'm fairly confident that is not 100% correct, however #donotplay1/2

I do know that 5 years ago it was:

0.5/1 : $20-$50 BI, 10% to $4 rake (on PokerPro)
1/2 : $40-$80 BI, $5 charge**, 10% to $15 rake
2/3 : $50-$200 BI, $5 charge**, 10% to $6 rake
2/5 : $200-$500 BI, $10 charge**, 10% to $6 rake
** - hourly charge

Wow! In time, rake on 1/1 and 1/2 will be 100% - no cap with a sit down and hourly charge.

With the rake on other games catching up.

roulette all the way...black baby!!

Last Saturday night I opted to sit in on a $1/2 table, despite being a $1/3 reg. No intention of actually putting in a solid grind, but just wanted to muck around and have a bit of a splash at the lower limit. With only one $80 bullet, I ran it up pretty quickly

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people often view the $1/2 games as a waste since the commission is so high and you can only buy in for a maximum of 40BB, but the quality of play on these tables is soo low, you can expect to make a solid profit. Everyone on these tables is so passive, no one raises. It's like 1/2 players only know how to check and call. And they don't care how large of an amount they have to call in order to see a showdown. $$$

Crown Poker <3

Does anybody have an idea about the renovation? Haven't been a week or so and saw behind the curtains that they are putting some bj tables in to the main area. So sad that they are literally killing poker day by day and turning into a gambling game which we can see from weekend player profiles and around things.

First they replaced poker tables with bj at the main entrance. Then they cut the tables, expand the bar, put the tab there with ultimate horse gamblers, brought the craps to next to us, put the extra tables to dark underground ex tab room and now this new setup.

So sad to seeing all of these things slowly. I'm very missed the old 2-5 days with above 70 tables everywhere a truly poker room, packed on weekends, even 10 full tables in Monday 7 am. We are just became a minority in the downstairs area at the some corner. Lots of things I can say about but wanna cut here and listen to others if anybody wants to contribute.

yeah buy $20 rake per hand + seating charge is ridonkulous. 1/3 2/4 ..still high but no where near as bad.

When I first saw that big curtain, I thought they were prepping for the upcoming WSOP season. To my surprise and disappointment, I later realised they were simply adding in extra casino games; Black Jack, Mississippi, Caribbean, Casino War, and whatever other sh*t games.

I have a couple of reasons for why they're doing this. Firstly, I'm pretty sure the Crown casino makes the least amount of profit from poker. All the rake they take is "pennies" in comparison to the amount they make from all other games. So from a business standpoint, it would make sense for them to have less poker tables and more casino-game tables. Secondly, I have a feeling that the casino is trying to encourage poker players into gambling against the casino instead of playing against each other. It's evident. They put in low-limit house-games RIGHT in front of the entrance to the poker room. So poker players HAVE to walk by them in order to get in or out. But it seems like that's not enough. Now they're putting in tables at the entrance AND on the main poker floor. They're basically smothering us with these casino games. And I predict that a lot of poker players who have a losing session or are on tilt WILL in fact play these games because they're so conveniently located right inside the poker room. They're going to be a lot less likely to gamble if they have to walk up two flights of stairs. So I assume that's the thought process behind why they've put them in. It's really horrible. And I fear that the way things are developing, poker is no longer going to be relevant in Melbourne.

I don't think these new tables are going to get much traffic from the usual gamblers because they're used to playing on the main gaming floor and probably have never stepped foot in the poker room, nor would want to. It's more to influence poker players into becoming gamblers. That's my opinion anyway. Why else would they put them there?

you forgot one other. Adding "flop chase" bets ON the poker tables. That was also a recent inclusion and just proves further that the casino is trying their hardest to manipulate poker players into becoming degenerate gamblers. It's absurd.

crown management have now changed rules to allow you to post on the button.. what a joke this is.. they have to bored out of their minds to be changing world wide poker rules.
hardly any of the dealers/supervisors seem to have been informed either as usual.
these idiots must have misunderstood 'buying the button' or its just some ******ed variation.

The Crown Poker room gets worse year after year. I hope all of the international pros that come for APAC 2014 and AM 2015 see it for what it is and that is a sub-standard poker room. Crown hospitality might be first class but the poker room is average on a world scale.

It's underground. Minimal foot traffic compared to if it were on one of the main floors. Little to no 4G access. No wifi. Rake gets worse each year. No hot food (like there used to be). "Sports betting" moved into the poker room. No big field satellites ever run because they prefer to run multiple 1 or 2 table satellites eery day. Poker tables replaced by casino tables and right in prime tv viewing position.

I believe the poker room had no say in these latest changes, the staff there are probably as annoyed as the patrons.

And one of the worst things. Slow dealers. For anyone that has played cash in Vegas, the average dealer here is terrible. For many, every card dealt is an individual event, there is no flow. I question the training they get.

This is by far the main problem. games lower than 2/4 are not sustainable enough to generate cash flow through the room. They need competition, which will not happen any time soon.
IMO the $2/3, 2/5, 5/T ran a lot better to generate more action in the bigger games.

I've seen 50/100 PLO getting up consistantly recently, is this game all pros? Or do some fish play? Just curious.

FLOP CHASE! 1:7

hey guys, considering heading down to play in melbourne
what's the rake for 2/4?
any better alternatives in terms of rake in Aus?
Brisbane (2/4 @ 10% capped $13) seems OK