I dk about the room, but I as there a few weeks ago, and you still got food for free on the high side. I think they said with the card you also got 25 cents per hour comps, not sure if you could cash it out or what you would do with it. On the low sides comps get you $1 an hour that you can use for food.

Went to take a shot in the 20 game but it broke by midnight. The 30 was running though.

The times I have been there during the day though (noonish-8/9pm mostly), there was always a 20 and 30 game running. You might not get more than 1 or 2 tables for each but you can count on some terrible play. A lot of the 4/8 players will win a few hundred then gambol it up at the 20, which is awesome. I have seen a few guys who are ALWAYS there playing those games though, but have no idea if they are good or not (they def take advantage of the free food though).

Blue's or Green's?

LIFE in LA has a much higher rake than any game @ Commerce. (Lifetime LA resident here - 56 years) IMO, given your situation, you should not be playing any poker until you have a JOB, APARTMENT, and a CAR, all fundamental to life in LA. You are just one downswing from walking back home totally broke. Focus on LIFE's fundamentals. Commerce will still be there and you'll play better poker without the fear of total life implosion if you put your basics in place first.

(Who wants a sidebet that sevencard won't listen to this advice?)

heres the problem with rules such as that. say someone from vegas, totally not used to how things are so much different in LA, sits down and decides to run for his room a minute. while up there he gets a call, and doesnt worry about his chips downstairs because he knows they will picked up if he dont return, and eventually falls asleep. when he comes back think of the anger and surprise when he finds $50-100 MISSING from his stack, and then the floor shows him the sign hidden on the wall among many others in small print no one ever reads. i wouldnt blame him for never coming back and commerce missing out on over $20,000 in business from him the rest of his life, him and all the friends he knows. for a brand new player the first time should be a warning only.

who can suggest what a good players win rate should be in each of the following games per day?

1. 4-8 stud
2.20-40 stud
3. 100 Nl
4.200 nl
5.400 nl
6 500-1500 nl

and explain the various differences between each of the following games as to which is more "beatable" and how the play varies. im sure u all have different opinions as to the lowest game its still possible to overcome the rake.

I couldn't find the original quote itt so I don't know if this is true, but to me the rule is to prevent the wandering man who plays one hand, goes and smokes/plays asian games whatever. This guy is everywhere at Commerce and games are constantly 2+ players short as a result.

Still, it's a stupid rule if for no other reason than no other casino has it. Because what are you going to do? Tell people they can't get up? I think they should shorten the length of time one is allowed away from the table. Especially since you can eat at the table, there's no reason to spend 30 minutes wandering around and keep your seat.

Per the rules though, that player should be picked up after 30 minutes so it's more like $10-15 in missing blinds. I can't envision a scenario in which they let his stack sit there for 10-20 orbits.

well since the other players would be getting his $5 each time, i doubt theyd complain and ask for him to be picked up, in which case theoretically hed be charged a ton. and wouldnt be too happy since he wasnt a regular and wouldnt know they had vastly different rule than every other casino hes ever played in. im just saying they should tell new players about the rule the second they sit down, and warn them the first time before enforcing the rule. everyone should sign a paper saying they are aware of this rule, and the paper be kept on file at the office, before the rule is enforced on them to save this happening

1) Nobody wants the extra $5 instead of a live body playing and I have never seen it go more than 2 rounds before the players start calling for the chips to be picked up. Its the floorman who drops the chip so he gets an earful every round.
2) No casino is going to keep a record of player's signing a document that says they have been told about the house rules.

Thanks for the info. So I guess, if I'm someone who hits up Commerce about every two years, there's no reason to get a card. Is that right?

Also, anyone else know what the current poker rate for a room is and if the procedure for getting the rate is the same as it has always been.

Not true now there is sort of a reason now to use the card depending on your limit you will get a small comp per hour for instance in my game 200nl the rate is 1 dollar per hour and i think it is smaller at smaller stakes, the card then can be used for anything such as food or gift store items even packs of cigs, think of it now as having a sort of commerce credit card....still pretty useless but say if you play 400 nl or up where food is comped then hours can add up...

degen screwed out of $60K bad beat jackpot. This degen had voluntarily signed a contract banning himself from Commerce Casino. He hits the losing hand of the $100K bad beat jackpot and Commerce refuses to pay because of said signed contract between himself and Casino.

whats the best lowstakes nl that you can actually buyin for a decent stack??

if true, what about the other players at the table who still paid $1 drop per hand while he was there? either they should get paid and not him, or else get all their money back. if i were at the table, id raise hell with gaming.

I'd think they would pay everyone else the normal amounts they're entitled to and then add the banned guy's money to the next jackpot pool. But who knows?

Jeff

Well a couple years ago I had a guy who tried to hit on my GF (ex now) by bragging he made a living being a $40 NL pro.

But to answer the OP I'd say $200 NL is the lowest limit that can beat the rake over the long haul.

You are probably spot on considering what Commerce did when this underage player hit the bad beat jackpot.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...erage-1002755/

how much is a room at commerce w/ the poker room rate?

^ not worth it imo

im not really concerned w/ its overall value to u personally, i just want to know how much it is.

How has 10/20 + been with the Internet kids lately??

Room rate is ~ 130 after all taxes and fees

my friend 4 bet shoved in 40nl with KTs and the 3 better snap called with AQos. my friend flopped 3 of a kind and the villian starts ranting about how stupid my friend is and how he makes a living off 40nl and if we wanted to see the car he was driving.

we didn't take him up on his offer but im sure it was a 1992 honda hatchback or something. 40yr old man playing 40nl and making a living off of it? what a joke lmao

also my experience first time playing at commerce
40NL

guy UTG shoves all in for $40. UTG+1 calls him. the rest of the table folds.
showdown: UTG has KK. UTG+1 has A3os
talk about action lmao

so wait, the poker room rate is actually as much or more than if you just book the room in advance on their website? that makes ZERO sense.