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10-12-2013 , 07:52 PM
Random story about degen maniacs. 5 years ago I am playing a 2/5 game in Seattle with $500 buy-in. There was a Japanese guy with his wife sitting behind him and didn't speak a word of English, all he understood was the max bet was $500. Every hand he bought in for a rack of red, left it in the rack, and went all-in blind. He shelled out at least 10k and a few times managed to run it up to 2-3k before going bust and starting over. I took about $2k from him. It was glorious.
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10-12-2013 , 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Wizard-50
Random story about degen maniacs. 5 years ago I am playing a 2/5 game in Seattle with $500 buy-in. There was a Japanese guy with his wife sitting behind him and didn't speak a word of English, all he understood was the max bet was $500. Every hand he bought in for a rack of red, left it in the rack, and went all-in blind. He shelled out at least 10k and a few times managed to run it up to 2-3k before going bust and starting over. I took about $2k from him. It was glorious.
that is exactly what was happening here... accept he was drunk... and seemed to understand at least basic poker... he was preflop raising $100... EVERY hand.... for hours.... and was calling any reraise for $100... then if he hit any pair or any draw he Bet $100, and would call any re-raise... if he had any flush draw or top pair he was re-raising any raise... literally he was losing $200 to $700 every hand for several hours losing far more then 9 out of 10 hands.

I saw him re-buy in for $2k three times in a period of about 30 minutes... all total I played with him for over 13 hours and he preflop raised well in excess of $50 more then 90% of all hands for the first 10 or so hours.

the weird thing was is that, unlike your japanese friend he actually never seem to win until after 3am. i mean he would lose 20 hands in a row. it was crazy. you got the feeling he believed that if he just kept pushing the action higher he would eventually win. just never happened.... until he got hot early in the morning.
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10-13-2013 , 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by SlipperyAces
that is exactly what was happening here... accept he was drunk... and seemed to understand at least basic poker... he was preflop raising $100... EVERY hand.... for hours.... and was calling any reraise for $100... then if he hit any pair or any draw he Bet $100, and would call any re-raise... if he had any flush draw or top pair he was re-raising any raise... literally he was losing $200 to $700 every hand for several hours losing far more then 9 out of 10 hands.

I saw him re-buy in for $2k three times in a period of about 30 minutes... all total I played with him for over 13 hours and he preflop raised well in excess of $50 more then 90% of all hands for the first 10 or so hours.

the weird thing was is that, unlike your japanese friend he actually never seem to win until after 3am. i mean he would lose 20 hands in a row. it was crazy. you got the feeling he believed that if he just kept pushing the action higher he would eventually win. just never happened.... until he got hot early in the morning.
Sigh... I believe I was playing on table 6, clearly the wrong table that night
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10-13-2013 , 12:14 PM
table 2*
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10-13-2013 , 06:34 PM
Omaha/8 game was wild last night, a couple of the maniacs who feed on each other got in on playovers, and the regular maniac was in as well, and stuck. There were probably 4 or 5 $1500+ pots in one orbit, half of it going in preflop.

But here was my favorite play of the night. The maniac here is the same as the one in Wiz's post (#1557). Last card dealt to maniac flashes some, dealer says that flashed, 6diamonds, tosses him a card. Villain says, nope, not 6d. Dealer says it flashed, has to be replaced. Villain turns over all 4 cards, KJT+8d. Floor says replace 8d and you can play your hand. Folds to villain, who raises to $20. ROFL!
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10-13-2013 , 08:15 PM
Devo told me about that, too funny! Gotta love his action.
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10-14-2013 , 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Wizard-50
Devo told me about that, too funny! Gotta love his action.
Yeah, Devo was on my left all night, he was extremely patient and was still playing when I racked up.

Re Action Guy: he must've dumped $2K into that table by the time I left at 11, and I know the game went late. He opens every hand for $15 and thinks you have AAxx if you raise him, doesn't realize my 3-bet range vs him is way wider than that. The two play-over maniacs probably got into the game shortly after I left, but I had stuff to do on Sunday morning and couldn't wait around for them.
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10-14-2013 , 11:37 AM
I'm not understanding the play overs in a 5-100 game. How does that work? What am I missing?
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10-14-2013 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Wizard-50
I'm not understanding the play overs in a 5-100 game. How does that work? What am I missing?
Just a play over box, nothing special. Since there's only one table of O8 going, once you're in the game people don't want to leave, so if you go to dinner for 45 minutes, somebody else can "play over" your seat while you're gone. There was a long list for the game, and the two guys who were itching to play used the playover boxes so they could play for ~45 minutes or so until the person came back.

GG used to do this occasionally in the 5/10 O8 there as well. Sorry for the confusion.
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10-14-2013 , 03:56 PM
Ohhhh a play over, I was thinking about playing with overs, which is used in limit games if some of the players want to play bigger.
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10-14-2013 , 05:44 PM
Do any of the black hawk casinos regularly run a PLO game? And if so at what stakes? Thanks
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10-14-2013 , 09:18 PM
100 max bet, it's 5-100 spread limit O8
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10-14-2013 , 10:22 PM
Ya I saw posts about omaha 8, but no PLO at all? That's lame. What's usually the highest no limit game spread?
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10-15-2013 , 12:21 AM
Hi all,

First up, have read the entire thread. Thanks for the info.

Will sometime early next year be getting a decent cash infusion. I plan on taking my shot at poker at that point. Was leaning vegas but with the new CO laws black hawk is looking nice.

Few questions / ideas.
I see the Lady Luck 6 hrs equals a free room sun-thurs. planning to use this alot, anyone with experience using this 5 times a week or so? Do they allow this? Is this a good idea? Also try to use my comps from play at other casinos to get a room when I can't use this deal, fri sat sun. Basically just planning to live in the casinos.

If I can get my roll up to say around 40-50k by the time I get out there what is my ideal cash game? Not awful familiar with spread limit but I am willing to learn. I have seen some say buy in 2-300 some 900. Not sure which game my roll would be equipped for.

Anything else you'd like to add feel free. Thanks.
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10-15-2013 , 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by seiken_nick
Ya I saw posts about omaha 8, but no PLO at all? That's lame. What's usually the highest no limit game spread?
No NL games. Just fixed limit (highest is 30/60 that runs regularly) and spread limit 2/5/100 that runs regularly at ameristar. All the other places are hit or mostly miss for anything other than low stakes.
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10-15-2013 , 09:33 AM
I am assuming that is due to just lack of interest and not colorado gaming laws since the lodge has a wsopc every year? And I find it odd they have enough interesest to host a wsopc, yet not even be able to spread a 1/2 no limit game?
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10-15-2013 , 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by seiken_nick
I am assuming that is due to just lack of interest and not colorado gaming laws since the lodge has a wsopc every year? And I find it odd they have enough interesest to host a wsopc, yet not even be able to spread a 1/2 no limit game?
LOL. NL tournaments are permitted but NL cash game is verboten. I'll refrain from sharing the rest of thoughts about this post
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10-15-2013 , 11:41 AM
Oh ok got ya. Moving to colorado and never played poker in the state before. Just found this to be an odd circumstance. Thanks for clearing it up.
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10-15-2013 , 01:10 PM
This is not the state to play professionally unless you're a LHE expert and even then the 30 game has been getting tougher every year.
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10-15-2013 , 06:07 PM
gl guys, see you out there soon.
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10-15-2013 , 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Herbmoney
gl guys, see you out there soon.
Hold on to that 'cash infusion,' Herb. I'd hate to see another young fella lose his financial well-being to a poker dream.
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10-16-2013 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Wizard-50
This is not the state to play professionally unless you're a LHE expert and even then the 30 game has been getting tougher every year.
+1 to this.
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10-16-2013 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RidePolaris
Hold on to that 'cash infusion,' Herb. I'd hate to see another young fella lose his financial well-being to a poker dream.
Played 7 hours a day for 5 years(NL high rake games) before taking the last year or 2 off due to local underground games drying up. Thanks for the half hearted advice though, also wish i was a young fella.

Sad to see you guys not encouraging new players to the area, with the new mjna laws poker should be at an all time high in the area.
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10-17-2013 , 07:22 AM
Herb, unless Lady Luck has changed a lot in the last few month, you will poke your eyes out before clearing 6 hours. They only play super low there. The biggest game I've seen is 2-10 SL. Not sure if Isle of Capri still has it's very reasonable poker rate, but there you can at least play 1/1-100 and 1/2-100.
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10-17-2013 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Herbmoney
Played 7 hours a day for 5 years(NL high rake games) before taking the last year or 2 off due to local underground games drying up. Thanks for the half hearted advice though, also wish i was a young fella.

Sad to see you guys not encouraging new players to the area, with the new mjna laws poker should be at an all time high in the area.
You're stuck $30,000-40,000 to the rake when you walk in the doors each year. The games beside 30/60 and maybe 2/5-100 don't outpace the rake.

I played poker professionally 3.5 yrs, and I was able to split my time between online poker and 30/60 after I moved back to CO, but now 30/60 is the only realistic option for a livable wage.

There are simply much better poker markets to play for a living. Southern California, Florida, NJ, Seattle, Vegas.
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