As a player, of course I would want lower rake. But remember that they are a business and if they can sell out tournaments charging $200 + $1000 then why wouldnt they? Other OLG casinos do not have the same traffic as Woodbine and therefore need to market differently (i.e with lower rake). Take any basic business or economics course and you'll understand what I'm saying. My point to Nash is that his complaints on 2+2 are tiresome. All he does in any of his posts is discuss rake over and overrrrrrr. If the rake is unbeatable, players stop playing, casinos reduce rake, and players come back. <---- poker life cycle

This is a poker forum, mojojo16, so if you're not interested in Woodbine, rake, WPT, Casino Rama, GBH, Playground, Fallsview, partypoker, etc., etc., simply ignore my poker posts.

Hey guys, haven't been to WB in awhile but im curious about this tournament. So it runs twice a week? What is the max number of entrances and what is the payout structure? Thanks!

Tilltard, it is maximum 50 players. The first one on December 17 sold out and the next one won't be until the New Year. Phone 416-675-1101 for the payout structure and other questions, and please post their answers here.

I would say they discontinue the level. 2/4 limit holdem at Casino Niagara is an example of this. Players stopped showing up and the games stopped going and the game is basically dead. Ontario will never lower the rake threshold, they would rather kill poker than reduce revenue. At best you will see a better form of rake rebate ie a raise in points for playing that can be converted for food or even cash.

Are these running? Also, anyone going to WB from downtown today and coming back before 6pm?

The first of hopefully many MTTs in 2015 sold out again yesterday. It started at 11:35 AM. It was a $300 + $30, or 9.1% rake with 20-minute blinds.

Just as I predicted to Woodbine last year, the cash games were kept busy as each tournament table broke. All but one of the eleven tables were full when I left; there were five 1/2, a 2/5 and even a 5/5 on a Wednesday afternoon!

The next MTT in February may have a higher buy-in of up to $500+$40. Hopefully, Woodbine will run an MTT weekly on quiet Tuesdays, to go along with Brantford having 16 MTTs every month.

It is an abomination that there are charging 300+30 when I just played in a 285+15 at Rama with live dealers that are being paid. Nobody should be playing these

While GTA players are lucky to have Rama's 5% rake as the one of the lowest live MTT rake in the entire world, Woodbine's 9% rake is not too bad. If there is a $500+$40 MTT next month, the rake drops down to 7.4%. Sometimes there were five or more employees needlessly standing around the automated five tables yesterday, but as Woodbine becomes comfortable with only needing ONE employee to stand around, players can request an even lower fee/rake.

Another suggestion I will put in the green feedback form is to have the tournament results submitted to Global Poker Index / Hendonmob online database, just like Fallsview Casino and Great Blue Heron's tournaments. The prize pool next month can be $25,000, so players seeing their cashes online will encourage them to keep playing at Woodbine.

No way their gonna run the next tourney during the same week as WPT Fallsview right?

Woodbine is Wednesday, February 18, while WPT FPC ends by February 16, with Matt Savage, Mike Sexton, Lynn Gilmartin, Royal Flush Girls, etc. in the televised final table. See you all at both!

The televised WPT Fallsview final table was great, especially hanging around the Monster Bar with the Royal Flush Girls where we could hear the players talking and all the sounds on the table. Who is playing at Woodbine tomorrow? Woodbine needs to make the tournament on a Tuesday, so it won't keep conflicting with the Wednesday tournaments at Great Blue Heron Casino, which I will be playing instead.

Did the Wednesday tournament sell out? Also, whats the action been like at Woodbine lately? I haven't had a chance to go in 2015 and just am curious if there's been a change

Woodbine has sold out every single month. David Mendelson won the $5,250 first prize. Brian Garbe was the winner on January 15. The room is busy every time there is a tournament.

Woodbine should increase the next buy-in to $500+$40, and have the tournaments on Tuesday so it won't keep conflicting with Great Blue Heron's $330/$550 tournaments on the third Wednesday of every month.

Despite selling out everytime, Woodbine has not yet increased the buy-in for March 18 or add one tournament in the month. If you play at Woodbine, please fill out the green feedback form to add a tournament on a Tuesday and/or increase the buy-in to $500+$40.

Has any limit holdem traffic started up at all recently?

The never ending debate for a full fledged casino coming to Toronto is up for debate again. Supposedly the mayor wants to expand Woodbine's casino if an entertainment complex is built on the property. This could be bad for poker if the games are switched to live dealers as the rake per hand will go up and the hourly for winning players will come down.......http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2015...racetrack.html

I hit and ran there last night as I was in the area and didn't want to stay long. When I asked for this question I was told that limit games only go on once in a blue moon and stud while offered never has been played while he was on duty.

It's the speed of the game that makes it look crazier. If you play at Rama, Niagara, Fallsview or Seneca the idiotic play will be the same but like online bad beats can be much faster and seem more vicious.

This is the same corporation that allowed players to past post soccer games and win tens of thousands. They used to allow circle games to have the original odds, they flat out had the odds wrong on games,etc. It isn't run by evil geniuses.

WB is gonna have a bad-beat jackpot at some point in 2015..

Whether its good or bad for the room is to be determined..

[QUOTE=tercet;46470616]WB is gonna have a bad-beat jackpot at some point in 2015..

Whether its good or bad for the room is to be determined..[/QUOTE#*&& #@! Not good at all. More money grabbed from the players. I guess it could create more fish in the room. I was actually at a table last night with 3 obvious tags and a few donktastic fish but I couldn't believe that the table had so many tags on it. Maybe a few stumbling drunk types will improve the games.

Woodbine was unsure about today's $500+$50 buy-in, but I knew it would sell out as always, just like Casino Rama's sold-out tournaments where desperate procrastinators offer absurd prices just to play. The Deep Stack structure with 15,000 starting chips and 40-minute levels is so good that it has been going on for 13 hours with still 4 players left! Since a few players actually complained about too much play just like at Great Blue Heron Casino's 15K Deep Stack last year, the length may be reduced to 30 minutes.

Today's tournament conflicted with GBH's MTT yet again (1st & 3rd Wednesdays every month until the end of the year), so GBH fell short of a sell-out at 75 players. Next month's $550 at Woodbine will hopefully be on Thursday, May 21 so that it won't conflict again with GBH.

If enough players suggest it to Woodbine, their next submission to the AGCO could include more than one MTT per month, ideally not conflicting with other OLG casino tournament such as GBH.

So why would Woodbine change their tournament date if they are the ones selling out? If GBH is the one not selling out, they should be the ones motivated to change it?

Woodbine's Slot Operations Manager wasn't aware that another OLG-owned casino has had $300+ Wednesday tournaments every month (usually on the first and third Wednesday) until the end of this year. Instead of doing nothing like most players, I informed him and he's willing to consider scheduling next month's tournament and future submissions on a non-conflicting day.

Now about that 10% fee for $2,500 on dealer-less machines....