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03-26-2010 , 12:01 AM
I really should muster the guts to try those survivor tournies...

Oh and I heard April 14th is when the new room should be up and running.

But like another poster said, the room is gutted right now...so they better get to work!
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03-26-2010 , 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by JayTeeMe
Survivor tournies are catching on. And they're pulling good limit players off the tables, leaving me to feast on fishies alone.
I hope they don't take the fish, thats all. Glad to hear this is the way its moving.
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03-26-2010 , 09:34 AM
The sample size isnt huge, but I have also noticed that the 6/12 Holdem/Omaha mixed game took some of the nits away from the regular 6/12 game.
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03-26-2010 , 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by mn_trader
The sample size isnt huge, but I have also noticed that the 6/12 Holdem/Omaha mixed game took some of the nits away from the regular 6/12 game.

6/12 is too full of nits, finally made the permanent move to 8/16 a couple of years ago.
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03-26-2010 , 10:36 AM
I dont play much 8/16, mostly because I generally find people in that game to be grumpy. 6/12 or 15/30, people laugh and are friendly.

Maybe they just hate ME.
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03-28-2010 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mn_trader
I dont play much 8/16, mostly because I generally find people in that game to be grumpy. 6/12 or 15/30, people laugh and are friendly.

Maybe they just hate ME.
You got to at least appear to gambool with them. Just roll over one piece of junk that comes in on the button (say a suited 2 gapper or suited K or Q). It doesnt even matter if you win or lose. They will never figure out that otherwise you showed down nothing but good hands.

Congratulate them on their great play with T7o utg when they suck out on you. Cry with them when they lose. Cry but be a gracious when you lose (don't get angry).

Make it fun. Widen just a touch. You'll have such a big edge post-flop it won't matter. i.e. give a little to take a lot. If five of them straddle in a row, don't be the killjoy.

Going for the optimal EV on every hand will lower your overall EV (IMO). Just don't get caught up in-easy to trap yourself into it.
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03-28-2010 , 11:14 PM
I mostly play 2/4 LHE at Canterbury.

Ive been thinking about moving up to 4/8. How different is it? Im sick of playing a game that many people deem unbeatable.
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03-28-2010 , 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ChriSquared
I mostly play 2/4 LHE at Canterbury.
Ive been thinking about moving up to 4/8. How different is it? Im sick of playing a game that many people deem unbeatable.
oh jeez, dude, get out of 2/4. don't they still have 3/6? you should be able to jump directly to 4/8 but a couple months at 3/6 will help ease the transition in bet size. the general rule is any time you move up there will be more aggression. but nothing to get scared about.
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03-28-2010 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mn_trader
The sample size isnt huge, but I have also noticed that the 6/12 Holdem/Omaha mixed game took some of the nits away from the regular 6/12 game.
my experience was that the 8 way limped flops in omaha more than made up for any nittiness in holdem. if anything, the loose passive (omg checkcall the 2nd nuts) play in omaha spilled over to the holdem round.
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03-28-2010 , 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Man of Means
oh jeez, dude, get out of 2/4. don't they still have 3/6? you should be able to jump directly to 4/8 but a couple months at 3/6 will help ease the transition in bet size. the general rule is any time you move up there will be more aggression. but nothing to get scared about.
Lol, Ill do that then. Would 120 be a decent enough buy in at 4/8 just to test the waters? And how nitty is it? Or is it just as loose at 2/4?
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03-31-2010 , 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ChriSquared
Lol, Ill do that then. Would 120 be a decent enough buy in at 4/8 just to test the waters? And how nitty is it? Or is it just as loose at 2/4?
Meh, if you lose a hand you'll be down to about $75-80 in a heartbeat. Then you're close to that weird desperation short stack zone "gotta make it back pleeeze!!!". Give yourself $200 and you can at least take a hit or two and keep your composure.

I used to come only with a set amount and play it out, eventually seeing my stack dwindle down to the all-in point. I don't do that anymore with cash games, gotta keep a healthy amount behind so you avoid wasting money short stacked. You can't extract maximum value unless you have 15 big bets in front.
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03-31-2010 , 08:56 AM
Nothing worse than watching a guy with 8 chips flop huge on an action board, win $32 and a watch a $150 sidepot (if its blue chip) go to an inferior hand.

I'd stop at 3/6 on the way through. The 4 chip games (4/8 and 8/16) at least seem to play a loose/wild.
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03-31-2010 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by danspartan
Nothing worse than watching a guy with 8 chips flop huge on an action board, win $32 and a watch a $150 sidepot (if its blue chip) go to an inferior hand.

I'd stop at 3/6 on the way through. The 4 chip games (4/8 and 8/16) at least seem to play a loose/wild.
And why do people constantly buy in for $40??? Is there a book out there all the fish read that recommends taking minimum buy-in "shots" at limit?
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03-31-2010 , 02:23 PM
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And why do people constantly buy in for $40??? Is there a book out there all the fish read that recommends taking minimum buy-in "shots" at limit?
Who cares? I love these people, they always have another buy-in in their pocket to whip out in 5 hands.
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04-06-2010 , 12:50 PM
any news on if the new room is open yet. never been there and planned a trip for next weekend.
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04-06-2010 , 01:27 PM
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any news on if the new room is open yet. never been there and planned a trip for next weekend.
It's not open yet. It's supposed to open mid-April. Saw it a week ago and construction is moving along, but it looked like there was a ways to go. Still needed paint, carpet, ceiling, etc. So I'm guessing it won't be open by this weekend.

but the temp. space isn't horrible.
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04-06-2010 , 03:41 PM
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any news on if the new room is open yet. never been there and planned a trip for next weekend.
The rumor today was that the move would take place on the 14th...
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04-06-2010 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.WeakTight
It's not open yet. It's supposed to open mid-April. Saw it a week ago and construction is moving along, but it looked like there was a ways to go. Still needed paint, carpet, ceiling, etc. So I'm guessing it won't be open by this weekend.

but the temp. space isn't horrible.
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The rumor today was that the move would take place on the 14th...
thanks guys , ill be there 16th-18th. hopefully its a (new) mad house.
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04-09-2010 , 11:07 AM
So on a somewhat unrelated (?) but still CP question...

I asked a dealer Tuesday why the JP are consistently so small this year. He gave the standard answer, because there are less games running answer.

That of course, is BS. If there are less hands played in a given time period, that shouldn't impact the frequency/hand hitting of the JP-which all things being equal, should just mean less games=more time (in days or hours) between hitting. The number of hands played per jackpot hit should average to some number.

So either
1) We were in low variance, with the JP hitting at low frequency/per hand and are now in high variance OR
2) The JP drop allocation rules have been changed. Could they be taking an extra cut to either fund
A. deficit from all the bonus JPs in the past or
B. building a fund for lots of bonus JPs after the remodel.
(JP drop other than an admin fee has to be payed back out).

Thoughts?

FWIW, not that it really matters to me. I'm 0fer six years and don't really concern myself with it much. I just jokingly tell the table when it comes up to not be at my table if they want a chance.
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04-09-2010 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by danspartan
So on a somewhat unrelated (?) but still CP question...

I asked a dealer Tuesday why the JP are consistently so small this year. He gave the standard answer, because there are less games running answer.

That of course, is BS. If there are less hands played in a given time period, that shouldn't impact the frequency/hand hitting of the JP-which all things being equal, should just mean less games=more time (in days or hours) between hitting. The number of hands played per jackpot hit should average to some number.

So either
1) We were in low variance, with the JP hitting at low frequency/per hand and are now in high variance OR
2) The JP drop allocation rules have been changed. Could they be taking an extra cut to either fund
A. deficit from all the bonus JPs in the past or
B. building a fund for lots of bonus JPs after the remodel.
(JP drop other than an admin fee has to be payed back out).

Thoughts?

FWIW, not that it really matters to me. I'm 0fer six years and don't really concern myself with it much. I just jokingly tell the table when it comes up to not be at my table if they want a chance.
It definitely seems like something has changed in the way that they administer that jackpot... Whatever it is, it sucks. The old days: walk into room, jackpot is "only $37k? wtf?" These days: "Holy spit the jackpot is up to $12k!!!?"

I would say it's because of the many, many hrs now where they guarantee $50k... It hits a lot, so there is, as you said, a possible deficit from all these bonuses, so the actual JP goes up a lot slower. There used to be a lot fewer hours of a guarantee out there...
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04-09-2010 , 03:59 PM
I am in no way trying to kill this thread, and I am(was) a canterbury enthusiast, until I found out that canterbury Park was one of the leading voices to the local guvment to ban online poker in this state. I will try and find some links to articles and post them in here, but when I found out about this, it was kind of depressing. I absolutely love that place, but how in good faith can you support a place like that, that is trying to take away your personal freedom like this. I mean seriously? If it wasnt for online poker these cardrooms wouldnt be ****. I know I may catch some grief about this, but IMO for those who dont know, they should.
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04-09-2010 , 09:51 PM
I'm a Canterbury Fanboy fwiw but it makes complete sense to me that they'd want to ban online. No online = more business for them. Seems really simple to me. Now I don't agree that it should be banned but it makes sense why upper management would want that.

I'm 100% sure if you talk to the everday people there, the floorpeople, the dealers, probably even someone like Al, they would say they like or are ok with online poker.

Remodeling will finish mid April if everything goes on schedule. If not then, then before racing season starts.

Survivor (pseudo NL cash game Tournies) NL games are going like clockwork. 1-2 running all the time @ peak hours. 30-60 runs (almost) everyday now and 15-30 is still going strong. If in doubt for the big games call before you drive over. All other games are the same as ever. Hard to find a bad game @ Canterbury as we have some of the softest games in the states imo! I play here for a living and am very happy that CP is where I do my thing.
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04-09-2010 , 10:18 PM
They close upstairs at 4am Wed Apr 14 with grand re-opening at 7pm.
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04-10-2010 , 02:45 PM
Awesome, Ill probably try to come out on that Thursday, the 15th!
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04-11-2010 , 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by nizzwsop
I am in no way trying to kill this thread, and I am(was) a canterbury enthusiast, until I found out that canterbury Park was one of the leading voices to the local guvment to ban online poker in this state. I will try and find some links to articles and post them in here, but when I found out about this, it was kind of depressing. I absolutely love that place, but how in good faith can you support a place like that, that is trying to take away your personal freedom like this. I mean seriously? If it wasnt for online poker these cardrooms wouldnt be ****. I know I may catch some grief about this, but IMO for those who dont know, they should.
This surprises you? This would make Canterbury just like, oh gosh I don't know, say EVERY OTHER CARD ROOM IN THE COUNTRY???
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