Rake is extremely high at the survivals as well; makes it super hard to tip if you had a losing session.

Rake is pretty much the same, no?

$45 for 3 hours x 9 players = $405

25 hands per hour see a flop(might be high but seems close?)

So $405/75 hands = $5.40 per hand rake + jackpot drop

Guess it seems like higher rake for turbo nits and lower rake for lagtards

$5.40+1 is super high rake imo, especially when it is essentially being taken every hand. That is higher than every room in Las Vegas, and most rooms around the country.

Closer to 32 hands per hour and 6 dollar per half hour is low timed rake

That's fine if that's how you see it. I still prefer to treat it as a tournament. Mainly because essentially those tips that you set aside are in play.

If you lose your stack, are you still going to tip? If you still do than you are a better man than most.

It plays similar to a 1-2 NL game, except that the first bet of each round cannot exceed $100, and each raise cannot exceed $100.

In short, in a 2-100 game, you can raise to $102 UTG if you want.

What current crop of players is more juicy right now would you guys say, $330 Survival or $200 Spread? I just played the survival game last weekend and it was pretty strong imo. A few bad players but more solid regulars. Opinions?

Results: (Not that they matter much) Ran well the first 2 hours, got called All-in when I had Aces, on a KQJ rainbow flop, w/ K9. Brick on the turn and river. Net gain of like $179. Next 2 hours I call a 4bet shove on a A44 flop with AK. The guy had 46. Brick on turn and River. $300 dollar pot. Ended up busting...$300 with that being the only big hand I played.

I would say the survivors are more solid but still plenty of spots in the $300s and $500s I have played.

2-100 is softer for a couple reasons I think. First being buy-in, see quite a few 2/4 3/6 4/8 players buying in for $100-$200 and not reloading. Next is time commitment? Most casuals do not want to play 3 or 4 hours? Casuals are familiar with spread from RA or area casinos

In my experience spread is a far softer game than survival due to there being more casual players. Many of the casual players are intimidated by survival because they're either not familiar with how it operates/don't want to play with a bunch of "above average" regulars. That being said, I mainly play, and prefer 2-100, although I don't venture above $500 survival.

H/O8 is our regular mixed game, but we do occasionally get a 30/60, 40/80, or 50/100 H.O.R.S.E. game going during larger events such as the Fall Classic. We would take sign-ups for these games daily and create an interest list.

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How juicy (or tough) are the middle limit holdem games at CP?

I made it to Canterbury for the 1st time in a long time yesterday. I was pretty excited to see the $2-100 spread game.

It was a pretty soft game that played like a normal NL game. I never encountered a pot where more than a $100 raise was needed, and there were always 3+ weaker players at the table.

The one thing that tilted me though was the $2 chips. What a train wreck. Why did they give everyone that bought in 100 $2 chips. Everyone had these massive piles of very little money. Every bet took longer than necessary to count out. It was tough to estimate people's stack size. Just a disaster all the way around.

How about giving people some reds when they buy in?

+1 . I also showed up on Saturday around 5:30pm because I saw on the bravo app. there were 4 tables going. Especially soft today. Little more then doubled my money. I feel like if you can survive the boredom of playing one table, play ABC poker, play position, you can easily win a little money here.

Yeah, the $2 chips are annoying. MN is not used to No Limit or anything close to it. We are weird and different! :/

How long have they had the $2-100 game going?

Do they ever spread $5-100?

9 months or so on the 2-100? They have never spread 5-100 that I know of and no real reason to as the 2-100 game is uncapped?

Yeah, Ive seen people sit down with several thousand at this game. 4 tables is the most players I've seen at once on a given Friday or Saturday night.

The reason would be that at $2-100, it was pretty rare to see someone put more than $200 in the pot. You're looking at pre-flop raises to around $8 or $10, c-bets to $15 or $25, and fairly rarely a pot big enough to justify max bets.

With $5-100, you'd be looking at $15 or $20 opens, which would make 3-bets to $60+, and the max bet used relatively more often.

I think a $5bb game would still play reasonably close to NL hold'em, but have the advantage of making it a bigger game.

This isn't poker related, but yesterday somebody dropped off an old (I think 4 or 5 years ago) iPod of mine at my work.

Didn't leave a name or contact number or anything. According the woman that works at the front desk he didn't want to be identified and just told her he'd found it at Canterbury and been meaning to find me and figured out that we worked next to each other.

So thank you, random Canterbury card player whoever you are. I've upgraded my mp3 player since then, but now I have a blast from my past and I'm enjoying listening to the music I was into then.

Once I'm done taking a trip down memory lane, I'm going to reformat it and give it to my 5 year old nephew so he can have something to listen to the Frozen soundtrack on (I think he's driving his parents nuts with it) and load a bunch of other disney/kids music on it.

Again, apologies if this is derailing the thread but I can't think of any way to reach out to that person.

Live in Mankato and go to Canterbury often. Getting sick of the absence of NL. Have been considering Diamond Jo's in Iowa and wanted to know if there are any other true NL poker options within 1.5 hours of Mankato. Thanks.

I hate that NL cash isn't going on here. Most of the time the 2-100 plays like a NL game, but since you can't really play for stacks it limits a lot of the strategy and makes it quite different than NL.

The survivals are fine and all, but you have to infest $30 into it right away, with the possibility of only being able to play for 2 hours. It also sucks waiting for a game to start. Plus you can't just cash out anytime.

It's BS that they have to find loopholes around NL cash in this state. I'm not sure if it is something to do with the state and the tribes or what. Not sure what we can even do.

anyone?

20 game is about equivalent to Bellagio.
40 didn't go while I was there.

pardon my ignorance but I'm not really sure what you mean by the 20 game being the equivalent of the Bellagio 20. I'm just wondering if the game is soft, typical, or tough.

NL hasn't been offered yet in MN, or that the cap hasn't been raise to $500+ is for selfish reasons on their part. Their limit games generate much more rake than what a NL game would. Plus losing players get more play out of their money in limit compared to NL, making games last longer, and make more rake. Don't expect the cap to get raised any time soon.

I haven't seen anything about that from the legislature this session, and we probably won't until at least next year. The session is required to adjourn no later than May 19. The House and governor are up for election this year; the Senate is not up until 2016.

When they increased the limit to $100 in 2012, it was also a late-session deal that came as a surprise.

The key thing to remember is that no proposal is truly dead until the Legislature adjourns sine die.