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11-17-2010 , 01:40 AM
Not sure of what live regs there call a satisfied hourly rate, but I'm looking to be banking 1 buy-in per session since playing live is going to be so slow and I'm prolly going to be watching the TV's half the time lol.
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11-17-2010 , 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by OMSDON
What do you think a good hourly winrate playing 2/3 in Burswood for a reg?
Most people I know are somewhere between $15-$20 p/h. Some are higher, some are lower. The high rake makes it very easy for the game to be unbeatable if you have 5 or more fairly solid regs at the table.

If you only played at peak times, which IMO would be 7pm-4am Friday and Saturday, you could get an hourly up higher by basically just nut-pedalling. However, that same strategy wouldnt work during the week when a lower % of people will pay off the guy playing 10/8 and hasnt seen a turn card in 4 hours.
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11-17-2010 , 08:37 AM
I might aswell take this thread opportunity since it's going to be mainly Perth peeps to offer that if any of you are interested in a study mate for instant messanger Then send me a pm be good to have some local guys on my poker msn list that are in same timezone as me
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12-20-2010 , 08:03 PM
A bump for this thread, can I get in with shorts/flipflops? and is the rake at 5/5 5/10 really 5% and not raked below 5%?
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12-20-2010 , 08:47 PM
shorts yes depending on brand and if they are ripped or torn or not.

Rake for 5/5 is based on table A rather then a % because white chips arent used in the game, it works out to be around 7%
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12-20-2010 , 09:33 PM
but flipflops is a no?
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12-20-2010 , 10:09 PM
no flip flops...
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01-07-2011 , 09:10 PM
considering heading in today for the first time in 6 months or so (playing exclusively online now). Are there any changes I should be wary of? Also what time will 5/5 get up? Is it completely dead?
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01-08-2011 , 12:15 AM
Hey Rambler

Got a question for ya I'm moving to Las Vegas to and I was wondering what are the best hotels there for a 3 months stay. And coming from Australia what is the best bank for us to use depositing large amounts could be a problem for me.
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01-08-2011 , 09:55 PM
hey
i've moved to vegas for a couple months at a time. Aria is really nice and has a great poker room and reasonable rates. Otherwise you can usually pick up room rates at 60/70$ a night at places like luxor, TI, etc.
if your going for that long you may want to consider an apartment style like vdara or palms place, mgm signature

best way to get money to vegas is to call the casino your staying at and arrange a wire. You can arrange a security box as well to use while your there. they will send the money back to australia too.
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01-15-2011 , 07:21 AM
Bump for my own experiences this last week (drunk post beware).

Started going back to Burswood last Saturday, after like 3 months just playing online. First impressions; shocked at how bad the standard of play is in general compared to online. Second impressions; the good regs aren't very good, and there's only a few people I know that have the level of understanding of the average 2p2er. In an attempt to quantify this... Average VPIP is probably 40%ish. With relatively little preflop raising.

Unfortunately 5/5 is dead. I played 6 days this week, and only managed to play 5/5 twice - both times near the end of my session too. There is infrequent 2/3 PLO (played it Tuesday and Thursday night), this is typically played 200 minimum buy-in and uncapped max buy-in. Quality of play is as poor or poorer than the standard NLHE.

The 2/3 rake structure is pretty ridiculous, but imo, very beatable. It's 10% capped at $12 at the moment. I'm a little drunk atm so 5/5 rake structure is not coming to my mind, but it's decent and better than 2/3. It's something like $5 from $50-150, $10 from $150 - ??, something else, capped at $20.

The poker room is open from 10am - 6am weekdays (but don't expect a game until like midday most weekdays). From Thursday, Friday and Saturday nights the poker room doesn't close (24/7). You can expect at least 1 table of 2/3 NLHE running even in the early hours of the morning saturday and sunday mornings (i wasn't playing friday morning so idk about that).

I think the majority of the floorstaff are competent. Some of the dealers are excellent, the majority are mediocre, but there are only a few completely terrible dealers. There is semi-regular 10/20 FLHE which is soft (i'm not a FLHE player at all, but I played it a little bit waiting for NLHE tables). This was running about 50% of the time I was there.

Umm.... Idk what else. The tournaments are soft too obv, quite regular too. There seemed to be like 4 or 5 this week, I only played one though. The standard tournament spread is a single $40 (25+15) f/o on Wednesday, then a mix of $120 f/os or rebuys on other days.

Ask me anything you want about Burswood etc. I was a reg there for ageees before taking a longish break recently. Let me know if you're a reg there too, or have seen me around this week. I look young I guess, I'm actually 20 but I prob look 18, longish hair (too lazy to cut), and My name is Dylan. Sup?
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01-15-2011 , 08:27 PM
Noteable players to look out for?
Many fish?
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01-15-2011 , 11:51 PM
There's not really anyone to be worried about on 2/3. Most of the good regs aren't really agro/bluffy. at 5/5 though there are some good aggressive regs that will put pressure on you in some spots.

Umm lots of fish lol. Even most of the regs are fish. Happy hunting,
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02-05-2011 , 03:51 AM
Just visiting some friends in town, and a little shocked a my experience in the Burswood poker room. First of all, most people and dealers have been awesome so far. People pretty friendly, and the dealers seem to be alright.

But honestly, this has to be be one of the worst managed poker rooms I have ever been to throughout my travels. I'm not sure if this is limited by the state gambling laws here, but definitely not overly pleased by a number of things. First of all 10% rake up to $12 for 2/3 NL, and 10% up to $25 for 5/5NL is pretty ridiculous. Good on them for making as much as they can, but for playing, this seems horrible. Having no cage and buying chips at the table is so slow, and waiting for houseman or supervisor to confirm bigger amounts just brings the game to a stop so often. As well, any time there is a red light on the shuffle machine, calling a supervisor to pick up the cards, and put them back in the machine, when a dealer could easily do this without damaging game integrity seems wasteful. No free soft drinks, and just everything inside the casino being so expensive kind of sucks, and feels like Belagio prices, without being at Bellagio.

On a personal note, I just absolutely hate cricket, and being force fed on all 3 tvs in the room is painful. But I'm sure if Australians came to North America, they'd feel the same way about something like baseball.
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04-11-2011 , 02:49 AM
Burswood BLOWS i haven't been there in years but it was really bad when i was there, even tho i got pawned lol. Still, pass on burswood customer service is terrible and the whole ambiance of the new poker room is laughable.

Any casino who doesn't offer 24/7 poker tables with a decent spread is just a glamorized backdoor degen room with pretty flashing lights.
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04-11-2011 , 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by LazyLeopard
Burswood BLOWS i haven't been there in years but it was really bad when i was there, even tho i got pawned lol. Still, pass on burswood customer service is terrible and the whole ambiance of the new poker room is laughable.

Any casino who doesn't offer 24/7 poker tables with a decent spread is just a glamorized backdoor degen room with pretty flashing lights.
I think the only 24/7 casino in Australia is Melbourne AFAIK. The city/state based monopolies are killing the industry as a whole.

Agree with all said before about the handrate being really slow, especially on weekends. Horrific
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04-11-2011 , 09:24 AM
Yeah man its pathetic. Plus the only plus that burswood had in terms of poker getting traffic was its location pre-new poker room, when it was in the middle of the floor it was attracting a lot of curious drunks/randoms who were willing to sit for a punt. Now its attracting only those who know where to find it and what the room is. Although its still not filled with just sharks, the fish ratio has dramatically been lowered.

Shame.
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04-16-2011 , 02:41 AM
Yeah Burswood is kinda really bad.....There are literally 2 or 3 players who actually have a clue. The rest of those who call themselves "pros" have just watched a bit of the WSOP or something on TV and thought "man this looks easy".

Also the 66bb buy in needs to be increased to at least 100bb's
Some of the dealers need to be educated better as there is absolutely no consistence at all. Hand rate varies a lot, some dealers punch out about 10 hands/hr, a select few manage up to 30 hands/hr.

For some reason i still almost maintain reg status there though!!!
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04-16-2011 , 08:53 AM
Yeah. its still good as an alternative but since its the only prime location for live poker its shocking. I dunno, i dont have much to say good about it since knowing how much of a budget they could have put towards it with better planning and maybe more input from players instead of big brother.
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04-16-2011 , 09:13 AM
fwiw a bunch of new rules are coming in on monday, including voluntary live straddles which if utilised will make the 2/3 play as a 2/3/6
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04-17-2011 , 10:25 PM
I cant wait for this!!!

Although it will be 2/3/6 with max $200 stack, flop cbet will basically be a shove!!!


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fwiw a bunch of new rules are coming in on monday, including voluntary live straddles which if utilised will make the 2/3 play as a 2/3/6
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04-18-2011 , 05:39 PM
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fwiw a bunch of new rules are coming in on monday, including voluntary live straddles which if utilised will make the 2/3 play as a 2/3/6
This is going to make it so much worse. So cant play deep or even 100bb and now they allow straddle? This is a pure rake grab.

Bring 100bb buyin already ffs!!!
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04-20-2011 , 10:50 PM
Provided the whole table agrees the max buyin can be raised, so the 2/3 can be $300 max buy in instead of $200
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04-21-2011 , 08:28 AM
Why would u need the whole table to agree? if anyone wants to play with 200 they still can. and if they wanna play with 100 they can do that too. Id say the max buy-in should be $500 for 2/3 but the $300 max buy-in should be a MINIMUM standard across the board to all poker games, except those special ones where the table agrees the max buy-in would be LESS then 100bb.

doesn't this just sound standard? i can understand why the casino would want lower buy-ins, more action more gamble, but the players?

Last edited by LazyLeopard; 04-21-2011 at 08:29 AM. Reason: Typos.
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04-22-2011 , 03:37 AM
idiots dont understand effective stack sizes, so get scares by 'big stacks who gamble lots...
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