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03-22-2012 , 08:28 AM
I'm heading down to AC in a few with my boy for a couple of days and lookin for a few pointers related to the Borgata (never played at the Borgata before).

1) What is the deal with poker comps and getting a room? Last time we played at Tropicana and they comped us for a room for $60 on friday night, and I'm assuming we can get a room on Thurs night there for free.

What should I be expecting at the Borgata? I've never played there before obv, but if i put in say 6-8 hours today should I expect a decent offer tonight and be able to put in another 6-8 on Friday and get something sub 80 for a friday night? Just tryin to get a feel, we called them and they were no help regarding estimating comps.

2)How's the smoking situation? Playing at sands gives me a headache from all the second hand, does Borg offer smoke free poker on a floor? If not, how is the air quality?

3)Also given that Borg is the biggest room I'm expecting that there are multiple 1-2 tables running at any given time of the day..?

Thanks in advance for whatever tips you guys got.
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03-22-2012 , 08:44 AM
2 And 3 will not be a problem, no second hand smoke in poker room and tons of 1/2 games on those days.
1 is a different story; while they are generous with comps, you won't get a standard comp offer on first trip unless possibly if you make prior arrangements. You could try writing to room manager, he sometimes can help new players and posts in this thread regularly as Ruler of the East.
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03-22-2012 , 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
2 And 3 will not be a problem, no second hand smoke in poker room and tons of 1/2 games on those days.
1 is a different story; while they are generous with comps, you won't get a standard comp offer on first trip unless possibly if you make prior arrangements. You could try writing to room manager, he sometimes can help new players and posts in this thread regularly as Ruler of the East.
exactly right. very generous with room offers, but not a declared "poker rate" (outside tourney events). you usually have to put in a session, then wait a week to receive offers... but they they're very generous.

no smoke at all, the room is separated from the casino floor

always plenty of 1/2 games 24/7
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03-22-2012 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by pipes
I'd be interested in the response to this as well...
Thanks for the bump.

We're waiting for the correct rule, Stan.


<<<crickets>>>
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03-22-2012 , 01:17 PM
Thanks for the replies to my question. Very helpful
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03-22-2012 , 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Rush17
I want to preface this post as I only want/need Stan to answer because anything else is just speculation, so, ty.

Stan:

Please tell me the rule re: the games that are spread in the 40/80 mix game.

If the game is in progress and someone suggests to either add another game, or, to remove an existing game from the mix, can you please tell me what has to happen for this to occur? Do you need more than 1 player to object or is it based on the majority?

Ex:
8 handed game and I suggest adding badugi but 3 players object. Well obviously, that's not the majority(because it would take 5 players for that obv.) but, it is more than 2. So, what's the rule? And, whatever the rule is, is there a way to make sure it sticks? It seems as though the Floor doesn't want to get involved re: this matter and I really wish they would.

For as long as I can remember its always been: of two players object to adding or removing a game, then it stays the way it is. Now, suddenly I am hearing it's the majority.
If two or more players object to the change, it will not change. If only one player objects, the change may occur.

Stan
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03-22-2012 , 04:13 PM
stan is that a new rule?
a few months ago we were playing 2/5 plo
2 guys had started the game heads up and wanted a 1k cap
the game filled up, one of the original players left and the other one wanted to keep the 1k cap
the rest of us (6 or 7) wanted it taken off, but we were told we couldnt change the game if anyone objects
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03-22-2012 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 85chickasaw
exactly right. very generous with room offers, but not a declared "poker rate" (outside tourney events). you usually have to put in a session, then wait a week to receive offers... but they they're very generous.
a couple of months ago I played some cash poker for the first time at Borgata (been going for years to rest of casino, and just poker tourneys) the next day my room rates on the website went down to $59 for a weekday.
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03-22-2012 , 05:19 PM
I agree with a lot of the things you said regarding the external forces facing players and the discipline required but isn't that along with overcoming the cost of sitting down at the table all part of beating the Borgata 2-5 game? (Also, a lot of players I used to know and know live locally and don't have to pay for hotel rooms anyway).

You need to have a monster edge over 'the field' to survive the factors you mentioned and most players at Borgata, past and present, simply do not have it. If they did, the same players would still be prospering and the room would have more than just few 2-5 games going mid week after all these years.

I have no doubt the game is easy to you. It is to a very select few....Maybe on occassion a trained monkey can "easily" beat the game and for an extended time. But for everyone monkey that does....there are 40-50 monkeys that will forever be left scratching their heads.


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Originally Posted by P0nzi
people move die get jobs have kids etc
the games themselves are easy to beat
its a ****ing grind though
ive said it forever in many other posts but any idiot can play well when running well
a lot of people have zero discipline,game selction,money management and spend money like its on fire, go to the pit like idiots etc

i know most people get free rooms at the borg but thats a a realtively recent thing
in vegas you see players stating at the aria, venitian etc by themselves pissing away 150 bucks a night on rooms, people used to the do the same thing at the borgata

a trained monkey could be fundamentally skilled enough to beat 2/5 nl- its all the external **** that gets in the way for most people to do it for years
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03-22-2012 , 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by NIN
I agree with a lot of the things you said regarding the external forces facing players and the discipline required but isn't that along with overcoming the cost of sitting down at the table all part of beating the Borgata 2-5 game? (Also, a lot of players I used to know and know live locally and don't have to pay for hotel rooms anyway).

You need to have a monster edge over 'the field' to survive the factors you mentioned and most players at Borgata, past and present, simply do not have it. If they did, the same players would still be prospering and the room would have more than just few 2-5 games going mid week after all these years.

I have no doubt the game is easy to you. It is to a very select few....Maybe on occassion a trained monkey can "easily" beat the game and for an extended time. But for everyone monkey that does....there are 40-50 monkeys that will forever be left scratching their heads.
i dont think im great at poker-i think im better at all of the external bull**** that comes with it than most people
but the 2/5 games them self are a complete joke for anyone who is halfway decent at poker which is whati meant when i said a monkey could beat it. Youre not going to sit in 2/5 and be blown away by the skills of your opponents.
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03-22-2012 , 06:29 PM
Totally agree with ponzi ainec.
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03-22-2012 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Ruler of the East
If two or more players object to the change, it will not change. If only one player objects, the change may occur.

Stan
This is how I have always known the rule to be, but, for some reason, during the last few months or so, someone decided to say that the rule has changed (probably to suit themselves, no doubt), but I'm glad you cleared it up and confirmed what I thought all along.

Now, if you can make sure that your staff is also on board with this (cause in sure we're gonna argue over it again) it would be much appreciated.

Thank you for your time.
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03-22-2012 , 07:05 PM
Does anyone know if its possible to get the date that you need to get $1000 comp dollars by for the black card changed? I wasn't able to play a lot the past year, but can now get down there more often and there is no way I can get enough comp dollars before the date hits.
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03-22-2012 , 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ZephyrSpy
Does anyone know if its possible to get the date that you need to get $1000 comp dollars by for the black card changed? I wasn't able to play a lot the past year, but can now get down there more often and there is no way I can get enough comp dollars before the date hits.
Sure. Effective immediately, your date has been changed to 03/22/13.

As long as you earn 1000 comp dollars between now and that date, you will qualify.
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03-22-2012 , 08:40 PM
Just wondering, if you have a comped room, how many people are you allowed in the room? 4?? Also do they charge extra for more than 2 people? I usually go down alone or with a friend, so I never asked, thanks!
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03-22-2012 , 09:31 PM
dont ask dont tell
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03-22-2012 , 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Tekkaman
Just wondering, if you have a comped room, how many people are you allowed in the room? 4?? Also do they charge extra for more than 2 people? I usually go down alone or with a friend, so I never asked, thanks!
To get into the area where the rooms are, you have to show room keys for each person. I'm not going to advocate any shady stuff, but you won't be able to check in 2 people and then try to get 4 people in there at the same time because it won't work.

I don't know about cost etc, but keep that in mind. I'm sure you can call up and they'll tell you. They have pretty good customer service.
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03-22-2012 , 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by NIN
You need to have a monster edge over 'the field' to survive the factors you mentioned and most players at Borgata, past and present, simply do not have it. If they did, the same players would still be prospering and the room would have more than just few 2-5 games going mid week after all these years.
If you're trying to go pro at 2/5, you would need a monster edge. To be a winning player at 2/5, it's really not that difficult if you work on your game.

Most of the regs that play 2/5 that I know are not good. There are maybe 10 or less than 10 people that I know from 2/5 that I think are really good players. That doesn't even include me because my sample size is so small that I honestly don't even know what kind of edge I might have.
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03-22-2012 , 10:14 PM
As much as i enjoy the weekly derailment of the thread for you guys to say how good you are and call all the recreational players monkeys, its really not appropriate and it sets a bad tone for new players. If you want to talk about how you guys are all elite poker masters make a separate thread, some people follow this thread for actual information about borgata. I actually like the people at borgata and calling them morons behind their backs is pretty low, and bad for poker.
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03-22-2012 , 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Waylander11
As much as i enjoy the weekly derailment of the thread for you guys to say how good you are and call all the recreational players monkeys, its really not appropriate and it sets a bad tone for new players. If you want to talk about how you guys are all elite poker masters make a separate thread, some people follow this thread for actual information about borgata. I actually like the people at borgata and calling them morons behind their backs is pretty low, and bad for poker.
no one thinks they are the moron though...that's the beauty of it imo

I don't play NLHE though
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03-22-2012 , 10:29 PM
Will there be an 11AM $150+$30 tournament on Saturday, even with the $350 also being played?
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03-22-2012 , 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerIsFrustrating
To get into the area where the rooms are, you have to show room keys for each person. I'm not going to advocate any shady stuff, but you won't be able to check in 2 people and then try to get 4 people in there at the same time because it won't work.
I don't know what the official policy is, so I also am not making any recommendations, but this information is not accurate.
I have stayed there over a hundred times and have often passed security with a friend who was staying in the room with me. Almost every time only one of us gets our key out to show the guard, and we have never been questioned to show more than one key for the two people.
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03-22-2012 , 11:31 PM
How many runners does the Friday 11pm turbo usually get?
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03-23-2012 , 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerIsFrustrating
To get into the area where the rooms are, you have to show room keys for each person. I'm not going to advocate any shady stuff, but you won't be able to check in 2 people and then try to get 4 people in there at the same time because it won't work.

I don't know about cost etc, but keep that in mind. I'm sure you can call up and they'll tell you. They have pretty good customer service.
?

If you check in to the room with two people and get two keys how would the guys at the door have ANY idea who you are when each person goes through with their friend and waves their key?

Maybe I misunderstood what you are saying.
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03-23-2012 , 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerIsFrustrating
To get into the area where the rooms are, you have to show room keys for each person. I'm not going to advocate any shady stuff, but you won't be able to check in 2 people and then try to get 4 people in there at the same time because it won't work.

I don't know about cost etc, but keep that in mind. I'm sure you can call up and they'll tell you. They have pretty good customer service.
Each room key can get 2 people into the lobby area, so if you have 2 room keys and 4 people you will have no problem at the door.
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