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05-12-2009 , 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by skinhorse
NO. I forgot to mention the borgata chips are the best i ever used.
Ugh...the chips are the worst part of the Borgata poker room.
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05-12-2009 , 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by NickMPK
Ugh...the chips are the worst part of the Borgata poker room.
I love the chips more casinos should get them.
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05-12-2009 , 01:07 AM
Stan

2 Questions
I've wanted to know for a while in general of Atlantic City poker, Why hasn't the straddle been approved in A.C. casinos?? And how does it get approved and stuff?

2) Why isn't there a no cap on the 2/5 and higher ring games like in vegas where I hear there is no cap on the buy in.

Thanks hopefully you know the answers.
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05-12-2009 , 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by JBurdan
Stan

2 Questions
I've wanted to know for a while in general of Atlantic City poker, Why hasn't the straddle been approved in A.C. casinos?? And how does it get approved and stuff?

2) Why isn't there a no cap on the 2/5 and higher ring games like in vegas where I hear there is no cap on the buy in.

Thanks hopefully you know the answers.
Because the people who run the Borg are smart and know that uncapping the 2-5 and 5-10 games would be terrible. The 2-5 and 5-10 games at the Borg are so much better than the uncapped games in Vegas.
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05-12-2009 , 05:37 AM
Stan -
Who do I write a letter to in order to petition/beg for the "buy the button" rule and live straddle? I played at foxwoods during the first week of april, and although their dealers and staff stink and their 2/5nl games are nowhere near the borg's, those 2 things were excellent.
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05-12-2009 , 06:07 AM
To be allowed a live straddle legally and to be allowed to play Razz in a New Jersey casino the state legislature needs to pass new laws.

I can just see the NJ state senate using this as something to argue about for a month while they get nothing at all done and not even presenting a bill. This is just one of those things that makes you scratch your head about Jersey.

We can legally scalp tickets here outside concerts and sporting events but we can't live straddle, play Razz, or bet sports in a casino. wtf jersey
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05-12-2009 , 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by JBurdan
Stan

2 Questions
I've wanted to know for a while in general of Atlantic City poker, Why hasn't the straddle been approved in A.C. casinos?? And how does it get approved and stuff?

2) Why isn't there a no cap on the 2/5 and higher ring games like in vegas where I hear there is no cap on the buy in.

Thanks hopefully you know the answers.

Believe me I do not have all the answers. I just try as hard as I can to pull it all together.

1. It is true that the Commission would have to approve all of these changes that you are referring to. It all starts with a request for a regulation change from the casinos.

I personally have never been a fan of the live straddle. (1) It is commonly used as a red ass raise while on tilt. (2) Players are able to sit just left of their non favorite player and straddle their big blind all day. (3) The fish get eaten up fast. (4) Small rooms may only carry 1 to 2 games of that limit and type, thus forcing players that do not want the straddle to playing it. (5) Its fun in the home though!

2. If it's not broken, why fix it. I truly believe we are successful because of the decision to cap the buy-in. We are thinking of adding one more level in NO-LIMIT, $5-$5 with a $300 to $1,000 buy-in.

Stan
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05-12-2009 , 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 7Mickey
Stan -
Who do I write a letter to in order to petition/beg for the "buy the button" rule and live straddle? I played at foxwoods during the first week of april, and although their dealers and staff stink and their 2/5nl games are nowhere near the borg's, those 2 things were excellent.
We are trying to get the "buy the button" rule approved.

Stan
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05-12-2009 , 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Ruler of the East
Believe me I do not have all the answers. I just try as hard as I can to pull it all together.

1. It is true that the Commission would have to approve all of these changes that you are referring to. It all starts with a request for a regulation change from the casinos.

I personally have never been a fan of the live straddle. (1) It is commonly used as a red ass raise while on tilt. (2) Players are able to sit just left of their non favorite player and straddle their big blind all day. (3) The fish get eaten up fast. (4) Small rooms may only carry 1 to 2 games of that limit and type, thus forcing players that do not want the straddle to playing it. (5) Its fun in the home though!

2. If it's not broken, why fix it. I truly believe we are successful because of the decision to cap the buy-in. We are thinking of adding one more level in NO-LIMIT, $5-$5 with a $300 to $1,000 buy-in.

Stan
Very very good post.

One of the reasons why live poker stays juicy is that the bad players go broke slower than online, and thus can keep playing without going busto.

What most players don't realize is that live straddles and uncapped buy-ins increase the size of the game, so the rec players THINK they're sitting at 2/5NL, but don't realize that they just sat down in a disguised 5/10NL+ game. "You can sheer a sheep many times, but you can only skin it once."

My feelings about 5/5NL are mixed. I would've loved it when I was at the 2/5NL level, but I'm concerned that it might pull borderline players away from the 5/10NL game (which is already too nitty much of the time.)
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05-12-2009 , 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by cl0r0x70
Very very good post.

One of the reasons why live poker stays juicy is that the bad players go broke slower than online, and thus can keep playing without going busto.

What most players don't realize is that live straddles and uncapped buy-ins increase the size of the game, so the rec players THINK they're sitting at 2/5NL, but don't realize that they just sat down in a disguised 5/10NL+ game. "You can sheer a sheep many times, but you can only skin it once."

My feelings about 5/5NL are mixed. I would've loved it when I was at the 2/5NL level, but I'm concerned that it might pull borderline players away from the 5/10NL game (which is already too nitty much of the time.)
That's why we are just thinking about it.

Stan
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05-12-2009 , 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by cl0r0x70
My feelings about 5/5NL are mixed. I would've loved it when I was at the 2/5NL level, but I'm concerned that it might pull borderline players away from the 5/10NL game (which is already too nitty much of the time.)
I agree wholeheartedly.
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05-12-2009 , 11:18 AM
Thanks stan for the reply.
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05-12-2009 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Ruler of the East
Believe me I do not have all the answers. I just try as hard as I can to pull it all together.

1. It is true that the Commission would have to approve all of these changes that you are referring to. It all starts with a request for a regulation change from the casinos.

I personally have never been a fan of the live straddle. (1) It is commonly used as a red ass raise while on tilt. (2) Players are able to sit just left of their non favorite player and straddle their big blind all day. (3) The fish get eaten up fast. (4) Small rooms may only carry 1 to 2 games of that limit and type, thus forcing players that do not want the straddle to playing it. (5) Its fun in the home though!

2. If it's not broken, why fix it. I truly believe we are successful because of the decision to cap the buy-in. We are thinking of adding one more level in NO-LIMIT, $5-$5 with a $300 to $1,000 buy-in.

Stan
I have to disagree with some of your points on the straddle. The bottom line is somebody is putting in a raise with a random hand, which is way unprofitable for them and thus profitable for the rest of the table. It also seems to induce action, which can make the games very good.
No one's forced into straddling, although I can see it being annoying if it's done every hand. However, this isn't very different than blind raising every hand, and there's nothing a player can do about that.


You guys have run that 5/5 game before.
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05-12-2009 , 02:29 PM
$3 - $5 NL
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05-12-2009 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ashiXIII
I have to disagree with some of your points on the straddle. The bottom line is somebody is putting in a raise with a random hand, which is way unprofitable for them and thus profitable for the rest of the table. It also seems to induce action, which can make the games very good.
No one's forced into straddling, although I can see it being annoying if it's done every hand. However, this isn't very different than blind raising every hand, and there's nothing a player can do about that.


You guys have run that 5/5 game before.
This is why I love this forum. We all can't agree on eveything, but it's nice to be able to discuss it. You're right these are my points and not everyone will agree. I would be crazy to expect that. I do respect your thoughts and you make very points yourself.

Stan
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05-12-2009 , 03:03 PM
Good Afternoon Fellas,

I plan on nitting it up in the 5-10 NL this weekend and/or next.

What's the Min/Max buy? 500-1500?

What chip denominations are usually in play? Red/Blue/Green? Yellows?

Ive been grinding 2-5 for a while now and doing well. My bankroll can support the random 5-10 shot...

No cold decks in my virgin session plz.

Thanks in advance for the info.
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05-12-2009 , 03:05 PM
I do like the idea of having a game between 500 and 2000 for the maximum buyin, that's a very extreme gap. Not sure what the best avenue is, but that's why they pay you the big bucks
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05-12-2009 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Pippen33
Good Afternoon Fellas,

I plan on nitting it up in the 5-10 NL this weekend and/or next.

What's the Min/Max buy? 500-1500?

What chip denominations are usually in play? Red/Blue/Green? Yellows?

Ive been grinding 2-5 for a while now and doing well. My bankroll can support the random 5-10 shot...

No cold decks in my virgin session plz.

Thanks in advance for the info.
5/10NL runs at 500-2000BI

Red ($5) chips play, with green ($25) and black ($100) as well. Other odd chip denominations will make an appearance from time to time. The game works best if everyone has 1-2 working stacks of red, and the rest in green and black, imo. The regs will roll their eyes at you if you come with more than $200 in red.

Good luck!
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05-12-2009 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by cl0r0x70
5/10NL runs at 500-2000BI

Red ($5) chips play, with green ($25) and black ($100) as well. Other odd chip denominations will make an appearance as well. The game works best if everyone has 1-2 working stacks of red, and the rest in green and black, imo.

Good luck!

TY...TY

Bad news for regs and 2+2ers in that game....nit coming to the table. For now anyway....can't get too crazy 1st time out. But like all situations "it depends"...never know.

Is the game all regs and solid players or can a table be blessed with 3 or 4 guys with pockets that make 5-10 $1500 buy in seem like nothing?
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05-12-2009 , 03:16 PM
Wasn't planning on getting crazy with reds...

1 rack....4 rows....2 red 2 green should be fine.
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05-12-2009 , 03:18 PM
Considering they have run up to 5 5-10 tables at the Borg, not speaking from experience I'd venture to guess you will find a few fish at the tables.
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05-12-2009 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by thadarkman78
Considering they have run up to 5 5-10 tables at the Borg, not speaking from experience I'd venture to guess you will find a few fish at the tables.

When there are 5 tables of 5-10 NL running at The B that brings the AC total that day/night to.......5,

Place is so awesome.

Stan's Game reports are sick sometimes

"(26) 1-2 NL (18) 2-5 NL (5) 5-10 NL"

Game selection....IMO

Besides better comps/room rates other places, why go anywhere else?

Summer tourney series should be fun as well.
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05-12-2009 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Pippen33
TY...TY

Bad news for regs and 2+2ers in that game....nit coming to the table. For now anyway....can't get too crazy 1st time out. But like all situations "it depends"...never know.

Is the game all regs and solid players or can a table be blessed with 3 or 4 guys with pockets that make 5-10 $1500 buy in seem like nothing?
You "generally" won't see nearly as much blatant donkism at 5/10NL as the 2/5NL tables, so sitting around and nut peddling won't be nearly as profitable.

But, if you've got a good solid game and sufficient roll there is absolutely nothing to fear about making the leap from 2/5NL to 5/10NL.
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05-12-2009 , 05:50 PM
Stan,

At the tables, especially in the high limit room, I frequently see players messing with their iPhones. Hell, I mess with my iPhone quite a bit to pass the time (I'm a bit of a gadget nerd.)

However, there's recently been new software developed that allows players to calculate poker odds on iPhone, and some of it's pretty good: "How much equity does AKo have on a flop of QJ7 vs. an opponent range of {AQ,77,JT}." That doesn't even encompass all the collusion scenarios via text messaging.

What's the Borgata's official policy:
a) on cell phone usage in general during cash games
b) What would the penalty be for being caught using poker software during a hand? What about text message collusion?
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05-12-2009 , 06:38 PM
stan... i gotta say... this is the first summer where I haven't seen a limit holdem event in the summer series. im alittle mad...... what gives?
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