Will the Friday Noon $340 still be happening on New Years Day?

Thanks.

Tab,

Are there any plans for a special tourney game on either 12/24 or 12/25? The B sent out its December Events email and it had nothing about a special xmas eve or xmas game. Do you know when you will have information on what's planned for Thursday (12/24) or Friday (12/25). Thanks,

FX

Time for a live game report Wednesday 4:00pm


(38) Live games


(2) 2-4 LHE
(2) 3-6 LHE
(4) 10-20 LHE
(2) 20-40 LHE

(2) 10-20 O.E.

(12) 1-2 NL
(10) 2-5 NL
(4) 5-10 NL

(344) 11am $100 + $20 NL Tourny

BBJP $57,622


Stan

Hi Stan,

Stan, move on one more day... it is Wednesday!

I was just wondering how come there are 344 people for a Tuesday tourney.

Regards,
GolfPro

It was a test to see if you guys are paying attention. You passed A+

Stan

On a slow day in December, Tuesday at 2:30 pm there are TWO 10-20 "two-way" tables.

For all the hype and extra comps and promotions for the pink games there are more often zero games.

Regular and semi-regular players who have built and sustained the two-way game for years are often ignored or criticized. Yes, some can be nits and, at times, they love to argue but for the most part they are okay.

Having the pink Omaha is similar to starting a 15-30 holdem game while the 10-20 and 20-40 holdem games each have one weak table. Many times the 10-20 OE must-move table has broken to start a pink Omaha game. Once the must-move table has broken the main game does not have the support to last past 6pm or so.

There are problems with the 10-20 OE game. I think that pink Omaha is not the solution and is borderline sabotage. Many of the players seem happy with an hour of Omaha and 1/2 hour of Stud eight and, in the evening, the game often reverts to all Omaha. There obviously is not an easy solution but I suggest the following for consideration:

> Pink holdem should be promoted. The players who love pink should have an outlet and, once started, they could also decide to add Omaha or Stud to a mix.

> 5-10 Omaha with a full kill should be considered the complimentary game to 10-20. There is also a slight chance that 5-10 stud eight, full kill, could go since it also only needs 5-8 players. (Stud eight has been more popular on Stars recently.)

> There should be no pink Omaha unless the 10-20 OE dies.

> Start the OE game with stud and then an hour of Omaha and so on. In my experience this seems to appeal to the most players. It could be the new mandate unless the players who start the game all prefer to play half and half.

Thanks for your consideration.

I agree about 15-30 LHE when there's a 10-20 and 20-40 but have to disagree about the pink O8.

If people are leaving 10-20 OE to play pink O8, that means they didn't want to be there and probably dislike the E in the first place. It's almost forcing them to play something that they don't want to play. I see that 10-20 O8 has been running. If that game ran consistantly, I'd agree that the pink O8 would serve no point.

The Borgata spreads games people want to play. If they get names for a pink O8 why not spread it?

I don't play LHE cause I don't like it (prob cause skills are limited and I'm better at NL). I don't play E so I'd never sit 10-20 OE. I LOVE hi/lo omaha so i sit in that game every time i'm there and it's playing. There are more like me...promise you.

Hey Stan, it seems like the 10-20 LHE is going stronger in the past month or so than in the spring or summer (for example, there are currently 4 games on a Wednesday afternoon!). Have you noticed a general increase in the popularity of the limit games? I'll run some stats again when I have time but I was just wondering if you had noticed any difference.

Edit: I just checked my data from April-August, which covers 137 game reports. There were 4 10-20 LHE games running only 4 times; 3 of those were Saturdays, 1 was a Thursday.

I have noticed an increase in the number of red chip LHE games recently. I truly believe it has to do with room offers, Thursday Cash Drawings, and of course the Guaranteed Wednesday tournaments. The Thursday Cash Drawings were mentioned because you can earn tickets throughout the week.

Stan

I agree, pink chip LHE should be featured, there's no limits between 3/6 & 10/20. Though I do think that adding O8 to a pink chip game would conflict with the 2-way game. And while I'd love to see a pink chip stud game, I'd think I'm in the minority with that one.

Again I agree, 5/10 kill O8 should be the 'feeder' game for 10/20 half kill O8.
I think if that game was listed on the board on a Saturday it would get some interest.

5/10 stud 8 (Again, I'd love to see it spread) probably would be tough to get going, considering the lack of interest in the pink chip stud 8 game.


I dunno, maybe a 5/10 2-way game would gain some interest ? Full kill on the O8 round, and a $1 ante/$2 BI for the stud 8 round. Switch the games every dealer down/half hour.

4/8 HOSE is a really fun game (That I'd like to see succeed), but most people do not want to play regular stud or LHE at that limit.

I have left short-handed OE must-move tables to start a more full pink Omaha. I didn't think it was fair to the main OE game but I didn't want to play short handed for hours especially when a few people only wanted to play lower stakes Omaha.

It seems more fair to have a 5-10 full-kill Omaha.

The 10-20 half-kill OE is often converted to Omaha in the evening.

The "more like you" might have a choice of 5-10 full-kill Omaha or 10-20 OE that could be Omaha 67% of the time (one hour Omaha, 1/2 hour stud) and often 100% in the evening.

The 5-10 Omaha would also gain some of the Taj players who are dying (literally?) to get out of the Taj. That Taj game often has 2 tables day and night.

A number of these players are also getting two free nights a week at the Taj and then also coming to the Borgata.

Having a free room for 2 or 3 nights a week is the nuts for players who are in other states.

taj is nuts with their room offers, 20 free nights a month i get. yes 20 lol

I haven't played at the Taj since August--and when I did I played maybe 3-4 hours a day of 1/2--and I still get two nights a week. Problem is, I don't have a car anymore and don't like shuttling between there and the B. There were several occasions where I stayed for two nights at the Taj and didn't put a single cent on a table there.

There is a lot of that happening around the city right now. Players receiving comp rooms on prior play and when they come back, they play elsewhere.

Stan

Maybe if they stop, you're place will offer players who take 3-month hiatuses two comped nights a week...= )

I live in NYC and now have a flexible work situation which will allow me to come down to AC two to three days a week. I am interested in playing 3/6 LHE, but a place to stay has been my only holdback. What is the best way to secure comped hotel stays?

Don't play 3/6 to start. Or play 3/6 and a lot of blackjack/slots/games where house has massive advantage.

If you refuse to play slots (welcome to the club), there are two reasonable options: 1) Stay in Absecon. It's 10 minutes up the road and there are literally dozens of hotels, some extremely cheap ones. Upside is you'll barely take a hit for staying there. Downside is you may get murdered in your sleep. 2) Call reservations/the poker room and ask for the poker rate. Usually 60 bucks a night during the week. People underestimate how nice it is to have a clean, comfortable bed and shower within very short walking distance from the poker room.

That's me. I have been staying at Harrah's, but have been playing at Borgata. I did stay last time at Borgata under the poker rate, but I cannot afford to do that every visit, especially when there are free rooms right across the field. I had a lot of pit and poker play the past couple of months, so I look forward to when Stan issues the offers for January/February to see if I finally received comped rooms.

For me, I know I would play a lot more at Borgata then I already do now if I only had one weekday comped room a month. I would be able to play until 3AM and then just walk right to my room, instead of leaving at 10PM to head back to Harrah's.

FWIW, if there are concerns with a PC O8, I'd much rather play 4-8 O8 than 5-10 O8. The stakes are close enough to all serve as a feeder game for 10-20, and I dislike 1-2 chip games. Part of the draw of any pink chip game is the quantity of chips on the table -- I think this is significant.

also staying at Harrahs...again...I'd prefer to stay at the borg...but I can understand its the happening place...hence you're not giving rooms away for $35 bucks a night

Switch to black chip craps or blackjack...

What are the estimates for # of players entering the triple play event this month?

Seeing as though it has very schedule friendly day 1's (Fri, Sat, Sund) I can't see it getting less than 1,000.

It's got such a sick struture too. I can't wait. I'll be playing Saturday's 1B and hoping to not have to use a second bullet on Sunday.

I like playing multi-way games. I have been told by the players that the 10/20 oe will no longer run on the weekends and in fact it has not run the past few weekends. It has been my experience that when the 2way game has gone on the weekend two or three players get up and walk during the stud part (which is also the reason that they insist on playing one hour O then 1/2 E). This is very annoying to consistently know that you will be playing short handed to the stud h/l. There are quite a few players who decide to go to lunch/dinner for an hour and a half together and leave their chips on the table and force everyone to play short handed. I believe that there should be a third man walking rule imposed on this game for this reason esspecially when there is a list. The only time I have seen the 4/8 or PCG games might seem as though they interfere with the 10/20 is when the 10/20 regulars decide to walk and others at the table dont want to play short handed so they get up from the game and the game stops running. In short if the players would stop walking for long periods of time it would continue to go. I am seriously considering leaving my chips on the table when I go play sit-n-gos for this very reason.

It is my opinion (and experience with PCGs and 4/8 HOSE at the B) that others also enjoy multi-way games and normal levels below the 150/300 range that consistently run at Borgata. When any of the multi-way PCGs go it has been my experience that there are only about 3 or 4 regulars to the 10/20 game that will play that lower level but only until their seat opens at the 10/20. Most of the time that I have played the multi-way games (PCG or 4/8) I have found that there are usually no less than 6 players who are 2+2 players that do NOT play the 10/20 Oh/l game on a regular basis.

In short the only way the multi-way games below 10/20 interferes is when the players decide to walk. It is not fair to the majority of the 2+2 players who try to get a game going by talking about it all week to show up and be told that they will not be a list of interest up for the multi-way game because it interferes with the 10/20 O.E. game which no longer runs on the weekend. If all this sounds confusing then you see my point.....it does not make sense NOT to run (or even have a list of interest) a PCG or lower multi-way game.