just cancel as you usually cancel and claim ignorance until they push back

in any case, ime you get 2 courtesy last minute cancellations during peak season and possibly more in the off season

Rescheduling instead of cancelling outright should work, too. (Used to, at least.)

I heard by next week or so, they are changing the buyin limits to 100-500 for 1/2 NL.

Thank the lord

Yes, you're right about this and yes, they are still doing it.

Can anyone clue me in on why the 2-5 buyin was changed twice in the last 5 years; and why the possible change on the 1-2?

I believe I have spoken about this before in the thread but pardon me as I don't feel like searching for it but, is there any reason or explanation that had been given to 2/5 regs as to why they won't make the games 9 handed. It would be such a more enjoyable experience and yes I know they are 10 handed tables but sill. If we are paying time rake as is 5/10 let us play 9 handed. 10 handed with time rake and nobody gets up is just the worst. I can't understand why they have never been willing to change when this isn't a spacing issue.

isn't it all about the rake ?

10 players at a table == $100 an hour
9 players at a table == $ 90 an hour

It's probably a volume issue. 5/10 doesn't run a ton of tables. 2/5 does. Changing the 2/5 to 9-handed could mean an increase of three or four or more tables at peak times. Even if space and staff would support that, it's a big increase in the cost of running the game, for the same revenue.

If they made rake 6 like 5/10 I don't think regs would mind

Seems like a bad time to increase the cost of $2/5, when they are raising the buyin for 1/2.

Could not happen fast enough.....

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Anyone else online room comp calendar "screwed up" I normally have Sunday through thrust comped, and it shows up in yellow, but for some reason it is giving me rates every night instead of saying comped. In addition I called the borgata and they told me I do in fact have Sunday through Thursday still comped but I need to all up each time I want to check which makes no sense to me. Why wouldn't it show up online

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If you have 9 full 9 handed tables you have a whole full extra game. Which is a lot more rake.

Apparently a lot of people complained about raising the max buy in for 1/2 to $500. I don't understand why but whatever. So that's off the table now.
I was also told that they are considering adding a 1/3 game with higher buy in, maybe $200/$500.

Because a fair amount of retiree regs buy in for 60-100 and think a players who buy in for the max are bullying them, so if people can buy in for more of a max than they would be bullying them that much more

2/5 is a time game. So more tables (and thus more hands) doesn't mean more rake.


That's just bound to fail like the 2/5 deep, isn't it? The people who want to buy in for $500 will go there, until they realise they're the only ones there. As long as most people are choosing one of two similar games, most people will choose the bigger player pool.

do you play in any casinos that spread 1/2, 1/3 and 2/5 simultaniously?

because Parx and SH both spread all 3 games, i play at each regularly, and this not accurate at all in my opinion.

No, I play at Borgata.

Have they had both 1/2 and 1/3 from the start? Wouldn't that make a difference vs. introducing one where the other is standard?

I'm not thinking of 1/2 vs 2/5, but Borgata specifically introducing 1/3 alongside 1/2 and in light of their experience offering 2/5 deep alongside regular 2/5...deep never caught on.

Maybe there's a substantial subset of the 1/2 player base that wants a bigger game without going all the way to 2/5. That's not my sense of it, but maybe you're right.

Parx introduced the 1/3 and it has been very successful. That's almost all I play there. With the 2/5 being a 1K buy in it's a good middle ground between 1/2 and 2/5. The worse thing in the world is the guy that sits at a 1/2 with $60 or $100. The 1/3 plays too deep for someone to do that and not get ran over hard. If you make it they will come.


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I played at Parx and my observation is that 1/3 is like Borgata deep tables - failure. On the weekend, the few times I've been at Parx they only had 1 or 2 tables of 1/3, versus 10-20 tables of 1/2. Most of the 1/3 people seemed to be regs hoping that a casual player will sit because the waitlist for 1/2 is long. Maybe it's different now, but I wouldn't call what I saw a success.

Deep games don't make any sense for the Casino. They want people splashing their $100 buyins and rebuying. There is little point for the Casino to facilitate $1000 pots where people get crushed and leave.

In general, customers don't care for it, either. Most casual players and even a very big chunk of Borgata regulars don't buy in for the current $300 max.

I don't understand this "getting ran over" concept. Effective stacks are only what the shortest stack is and it is to the advantage of the player buying in shorter if a guy at a table playing a 5K stack is trying to "run them over."

All of these ideas are trying to address the real issue - the player pool is shrinking. Philly Delaware, Maryland have their own poker rooms. If poker comes to NYC area, half of Borgata poker is going to disappear.

you're obviously right about the bolded but a lot of rec players especially at low limits don't realize this and it intimidates them so they stay away.

Anyone get comped weekend rooms? I get comped weekday rooms at trop but would prefer staying at borgata instead lol.

whenever i get to trop i get too lazy and end up playing there

Are there any casinos that will match an M Life Gold card from Borgata for anything?

no which sucks bc tr used to tier match the black card