So apparently high limit is now no longer allowing you to leave your page/cell number for the wait list.

400% resort fee increase, this, excited to see what change is next...

Customers may activate Bonus Comp Dollars by inserting My Borgata Card into a slot machine or open a table games rating 1/6/17 - 1/31/17. No play required.

Place is going down the drain. Happy to say they will not be getting a penny from me anymore

Twenty dollars (which you can use comp dollars for) is not so horrible to pay for a room in a 5-star hotel (which the water club is).

How many other busy poker rooms - which have a 5 star hotel - which a wide range of games offered - offer rooms at that rate.

Amazing how people can complain about this - but have no issue loosing multiple buy-ins at 2/5 or 5/10 or 10/20 or higher.

What other rooms offer these "comp rooms" for 1/2 players.

How many other poker rooms in AC advertise "comp rooms" which are not really "comped" as they have higher fees - and also have very few games running and also the "comped" rooms are really available or are very limited ?

What other poker rooms in AC - or in the North East - are as nice as the Borgata property ?

Why do poker players think they are entitled to everything for free ??

This is funny though, I call in today and don't even ask to leave my page and the woman at the desk asks me if I want to leave a page lol.

Just some consistency on these rules would be nice. I've also had people at the desk tell me they can't lock a seat for me when I call in from my hotel room. Pretty sure it's not about any "new rule" and more just on the whims of whoever is working at the moment.

Could just be maybe they aren't allowing them on Friday or Saturday night or something, but who knows. Can't keep up with the rules.

Little extreme?

If it was said '$5 to $20 resort fee', one would probably say, come on whats $15.

But say 400% and it's like, wow let's start a revolution!

If you're bitching about $15...?


If you're bitching about not having someone call your cell phone (or your beeper?) when your seat is ready, I can see that a little more, but come on. I'm sure many were abusing the system just like when your cute bff says, 'I'll be there in five minutes'. But he just ordered a 16 oz. sirloin at Flay's and when he gets to the room an hour later, he freaks out saying BUT I'M BLACK LABEL I'M NEVER COMING BACK!

Let's be real here. I'm sure they should have a policy saying, "during major events we don't accept phone numbers for means of holding your name for high-limit tables." Instead they're implementing a policy for a Vegas-based, typically always busy, poker room like Aria or Bellagio. I'm sure if enough people say, come on let's think about this Borgata; they'll alter their policy.

With MGM involved, you're going to see some changes that may be implemented for the better; some implemented and changed for the worse; and some implemented and reverted back for the betterment of Borgata.

I get plenty of comp rooms from Harrah's and only pay $5/night in fee. This actually went down for Diamond card holders from $13 when they implemented the resort fee.

I used to choose Borgata over Harrah's most of the time because the game selection was much better. But I took a 3-night trip a couple weeks ago and, upon checking Bravo, stayed at Harrah's the entire time and never set foot at Borgata. They didn't seem to have a single mid-limit Hold-em or O8 game running the entire time I was there!

It seems like the property has just become yet another among many, many choices for 1/2 and 2/5 NL, when it used to be the premiere destination for most forms of poker on the East coast.

Maybe they'll start charging resort fees and taxes on complimentary parking too! Whats the difference between comp rooms and comp parking?

QUOTE][/QUOTE] Resort fees have added value whether it's pool, gym, wifi, whatever. In this case nothing has been added, as far as I can see, they're just charging more for it. With parking, it's hardly justifiable. If they added a cleaning service for vehicles attacked by rogue seagulls, humans, or degens, then maybe it would be reasonable.

Resort fees have added value whether it's pool, gym, wifi, whatever. In this case nothing has been added, as far as I can see, they're just charging more for it. With parking, it's hardly justifiable. If they added a cleaning service for vehicles attacked by rogue seagulls, humans, or degens, then maybe it would be reasonable.[/QUOTE]

Valid point, but lets be honest. How many of us are using the gym or pool. I dont even use the wifi either. Why are we being forced to pay for it?

Valid point, but lets be honest. How many of us are using the gym or pool. I dont even use the wifi either. Why are we being forced to pay for it?[/QUOTE]

That's just the way it is. It's offered and there's going to be little push-back on an add-on of $15 when the room is free. They will probably up it again at some point. They'll charge whatever people will pay without much pressure. Sounds awful, but that's business. I sell tour putters. You damn well believe I profit on bringing light to and creating perceived value. It's basically the same thing, just different business types.

My two cents on the resort fee - I do an overnight trip 5-6 times per year as a 1-2 and 2-5 player. Its over a 2 hour drive each way so there is a significant value for me to know that with 8 hrs of play give or take on the day I arrive I am pretty much assured of a "comp" room on the next trip, and so on. I dont believe paying $20 is excessive for the convenience of not driving over 4 hours round trip in the same day, having easy access to a good selection of restaurants and staying in arguably the nicest property in town.

Another way to look at the fee is that it is 33% less than a min bet on the pass line with single odds and compared to the pass line, is a guaranteed winner.

Why does everyone keep saying that it's not excessive to stay in a 4 star hotel for $20 or some logic of the sort? You are getting a comp room based on your play. A comp is free, or at least it used to be. Anything above the mandatory fee charged by the city is excessive in my opinion. For people that want to use rooms multiple times a week, you have a real cost to this now, like $60-$80 a week. You might as well just stay home.

When you let things like this go and just shrug your shoulders and try to justify it with backwards logic, it's only going to get worse. If they are giving out too many rooms, adjust the algorithm for what it takes to get a comped room. I'd prefer that to this around about way of bleeding their customer base of $20 per night.

To be fair, Borgata gives out comped rooms for poker much more easily than almost any other casino, especially any nice ones. Though I didn't realize they gave any poker players 4 free nights/week.

If Borgata were to reduce the number of comped rooms they gave out overall in lieu of an increased resort fee, I have to imagine virtually all of the rooms given out to poker players would be first to go. (I suspect this is going to happen with the transition to mlife in any case.)

They used to give comp rooms for whatever was available on your calendar. That's not the case anymore, it's two nights per week. I'm not sure when that changed- I would imagine 2011-12 if my memory serves me right.

I agree with you, however, and hope that MGM doesn't change Borgata's original offering on comp rooms. It will redistribute poker business around the city in some manner.

Winter Poker Open schedule is out

https://www.theborgata.com/casino/po...-2017/schedule

Does anyone have any info on whats going on with the O/8 10-20 game...
last few times ive checked for it it was not going from thurs-sun... at least not early on those days like it used too...

I don't know if I'm crazy but I played 2-3 hour session at 1-2 where the dealer was "dealing in" (exposing his cards somehow, assuming when they were being pitched to him) the player next to me. He was a sack of **** but still ****ed up on so many levels.

Then comes another dealer who I think was exposing my cards.

Basically I was in the 5 seat and when the dealer was pitching the cards the player at the 1 seat and I'm assuming all observant players to my right could see my cards.

I got up and left after 10min.

Someone please step up and lets talk about this type of situation how to avoid/stop it from happening..

I didn't mind when it was the guy next to me, but when it was me I was pissed off at the dealer.. Maybe didn't want me to play anymore..

Someone please tell me I'm not crazy..

Did you try asking the dealer to pitch the cards lower? What was his response? The chances he was intentionally trying to expose your cards are pretty close to nill. More likely just bad dealing procedures.

Please let's not start up with this again flopturntree. You know how this will go. You come here to complain that dealers are pitching cards so that your opponents can see them, and everyone here tells you to stop being a paranoid nutjob.

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Can't believe you remembered Dinesh LOL

Maybe I am crazy but lately I feel like theres just all around shadiness that goes around on the table, collusion, dealers exposing cards, etc etc etc

I'm sure someone else can give an example of foul play/angle shooting here..

And don't tell me it never happens Dinesh because on some level I'm willing to bet my bottom dollar it does

I don't care. No one here wants to read your paranoid ramblings about this for the fourth time now. I'll be deleting any future posts about it.

Feel free to take it to NVG or another forum if you feel you must post about it.

Was at Borg last week and can confirm that I was able to see people's hole cards on two instances (out of 99 hours played). Once was when the card hit the player's hand and did a little bounce, the other time was when a dealer was throwing the cards a bit too high when dealing.

I'm sure this happens once or twice a week, but I doubt the dealer is doing it on purpose. If you are concerned, you can ask the dealer to not throw the cards up so high.

Has anyone stayed at a different casino when they play the winter open events at Borgata?
If so, was the monetary savings worth the trips back and forth?