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01-07-2019 , 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by always4bet
How are the cash games during the winter poker open? More specifically mid/high stakes PLO / NL.
amazing.
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01-09-2019 , 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by bballwiz
Aren’t you supposed to get a free cruise?
Can’t speak to MGM free cruises specifically (even assuming OP is due one). But sometimes free is far from free. We have been on many free casino gift cruises and have another coming soon. We enjoy them but they still are not free. Port fees, taxes, excursion costs, on board alcohol and a casino with bad odds.

Like I said been on many and like them but many of the not so free things above we avoid.
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01-09-2019 , 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dc_publius
Platinum Card, what is it good for? (Absolutely nothing.)

Last year I pushed early to get to Gold so that I can use Gold benefits. Towards the end of the status year I saw that I was getting close to Platinum, so I made a big push to get it. I've had Platinum ~6 months now and the benefits are nearly non-existent for poker players:

- One can skip the line at the Buffet, but not at Amphora Lounge.
- Room offers have not changed much at all... One time I was upgraded to Vista room at Water Club and one time I was upgraded to Fiore suite at Borg. That's about it.

I was hoping for more room upgrades or some interesting promos. Nothing. Not even a slot dollar promo.

The biggest benefit seems to be that I can match my card to more casinos. So the biggest benefit I got out of Platinum is matching it to Hard Rock, Ocean, and Harrahs. (Anything else worth matching?)

I'm writing this in case anyone else is curious about going for this card.
there's basically no benefit to platinum other than skipping the buffet line

you could have gotten the same exact tier matches with your gold card. i have mgm gold and tier matched to the top tiers at the 3 casinos you mentioned.
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01-10-2019 , 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by borg23
there's basically no benefit to platinum other than skipping the buffet line

you could have gotten the same exact tier matches with your gold card. i have mgm gold and tier matched to the top tiers at the 3 casinos you mentioned.
You're forgetting the buffet in the old poker room as a major, major perk. Also, don't forget FREE VALET (I don't drive)
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01-10-2019 , 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by HomeStar
You're forgetting the buffet in the old poker room as a major, major perk. Also, don't forget FREE VALET (I don't drive)
Which you also get with gold... hence being platinum is a total waste
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01-10-2019 , 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by YouFold2Me
Which you also get with gold... hence being platinum is a total waste
Even Pearl gets free valet.

Platinum does get priority valet & taxi service, though. (That, cabana priority and higher % slot bonus and shop discount are about it for Platinum vs. Gold.)
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01-11-2019 , 11:19 AM
Hi everyone.

Does anybody know if the Borgata has considered moving to 1/3 instead of 1/2? I know a lot of casinos have and it's interesting they've stuck with 1/2 for over 10 years at this point. I think it was in discussion a couple of years ago but I'm not sure if there's been anything more recent.
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01-11-2019 , 01:21 PM
With a healthy 1-2 and 2-5, why do this??? Also think 1-3 rare in a.c. just cause other markeys have it is not a reason...
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01-11-2019 , 02:47 PM
Was it just last winter/spring? Adding 1/3 was going to happen, then it didn't. Feedback from the regs killed the idea, IIRC.
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01-11-2019 , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Lurshy
With a healthy 1-2 and 2-5, why do this??? Also think 1-3 rare in a.c. just cause other markeys have it is not a reason...
It's not a reason to change just because of other markets, but rather that obviously the value of $2 gets eaten away at every year by inflation, so at SOME point they're going to have to raise it to $1/$3. Maybe it's not at that point yet, but by doing so, they can increase their rake as well.
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01-11-2019 , 05:20 PM
I would also add that NJ most likely is going to follow suit with its liberal neighbors and start raising the pay requirements for even tipped employees, which will force the casino to have to take a higher rake. Of course, they could keep it at 1/2 and still raise the rake, but the 1/3 shift could give them a "justification" for raising the rake.
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01-11-2019 , 07:07 PM
Anyone know how long sportsbook winning tickets are good for, if there is even an expiration date on them?
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01-13-2019 , 03:23 AM
With 1/3 it takes one fewer call in a raised pot to max out the rake. I'm sure they think and consider this. Mgm dc is 1/3. Mgm is making big layoffs and looking to make money. I would not be surprised if they changed to 1/3.
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01-13-2019 , 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Ten Eight Suited
It's not a reason to change just because of other markets, but rather that obviously the value of $2 gets eaten away at every year by inflation, so at SOME point they're going to have to raise it to $1/$3.
But but but I keep hearing from all those "experts" and elites who know so damn much in New York and on Wall Street and in Washington that I thought there was no "inflation" out there? My bad.
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01-13-2019 , 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by HurtLocker
But but but I keep hearing from all those "experts" and elites who know so damn much in New York and on Wall Street and in Washington that I thought there was no "inflation" out there? My bad.
Who says that (besides the president in taking shots at the Fed)? Inflation has been around 2% annually, and the Fed has been raising rates in an attempt to keep it in check. You might think that 2% isn't much, but at that rate, prices would be about 50% higher after 20 years. Makes sense that eventually 1/2 games should become 1/3 as the standard lowest NL stakes.
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01-13-2019 , 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Eponymous
Who says that (besides the president in taking shots at the Fed)? Inflation has been around 2% annually, and the Fed has been raising rates in an attempt to keep it in check. You might think that 2% isn't much, but at that rate, prices would be about 50% higher after 20 years. Makes sense that eventually 1/2 games should become 1/3 as the standard lowest NL stakes.
First of all, 2% inflation is what the govt reports. But Main Street inflation in Peoples' real costs from housing to healthcare to childcare to college costs to transportation to movies to sporting events etc. is beyond ridiculous (certainly NOT 2% or lower).

Watch any business channel or CSPAN or read any business or political wide audience capturing website on the internet and they all will repeatedly say (as been the case now for YEARS), that inflation is low if not stubbornly so. It is a page right out of propaganda brainwashing where if something is said repeatedly enough time no matter how ridiculous, it becomes "true" to the populace. Saying inflation is "low" is like me telling you that I am Santa Clause. Maybe If I say that enough times given a powerful bully pulpit, a large electorate would be gullible enough to believe that too. But who knows! Other than that, what I do know is 1/3 would not be a surprise based on the aforementioned.

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01-13-2019 , 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by HurtLocker
First of all, 2% inflation is what the govt reports. But Main Street inflation in Peoples' real costs from housing to healthcare to childcare to college costs to transportation to movies to sporting events etc. is beyond ridiculous (certainly NOT 2% or lower).

Watch any business channel or CSPAN or read any business or political wide audience capturing website on the internet and they all will repeatedly say (as been the case now for YEARS), that inflation is low if not stubbornly so. It is a page right out of propaganda brainwashing where if something is said repeatedly enough time no matter how ridiculous, it becomes "true" to the populace. Saying inflation is "low" is like me telling you that I am Santa Clause. Maybe If I say that enough times given a powerful bully pulpit, a large electorate would be gullible enough to believe that too. But who knows! Other than that, what I do know is 1/3 would not be a surprise based on the aforementioned.

2- 3% is pretty low compared to the 1970s and 80s where we hit 10%+ on some years. It’s pretty low.
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01-13-2019 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by fast11375
2- 3% is pretty low compared to the 1970s and 80s where we hit 10%+ on some years. It’s pretty low.
We are NOT today nor for YEARS have we ever really been as low as 2-3% but much higher than that in general. Maybe high single digits. Is that lower than the 1970's and early 1980's with double digit inflation? Duh, of course. BUT to say inflation is non-existent/low today based on that specious relative reasoning still does not suffice real power to truth.

Besides, this is NJ - with some of the highest rates of inflation in housing and property taxes let alone other costs like healthcare etc. Tell many people struggling with elevated costs that there is little to no inflation. Again, I don't like the change to 1-3 but if they did it due to "inflation", at least there is acknowledgement of truth that inflation really exists out there and not insult public's intelligence otherwise as if it did not.

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01-13-2019 , 03:59 PM
If you look at MIT’s billion price project (scrapes retailers websites to for prices) you will see that it mirrors the official CPI pretty closely...

Don’t know much about NJ (you have high taxes) maybe your localized inflation is higher (prob would be pretty easy to research.
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01-13-2019 , 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by HurtLocker
We are NOT today nor for YEARS have we ever really been as low as 2-3% but much higher than that in general. Maybe high single digits. Is that lower than the 1970's and early 1980's with double digit inflation? Duh, of course. BUT to say inflation is non-existent/low today based on that specious relative reasoning still does not suffice real power to truth.

Besides, this is NJ - with some of the highest rates of inflation in housing and property taxes let alone other costs like healthcare etc. Tell many people struggling with elevated costs that there is little to no inflation. Again, I don't like the change to 1-3 but if they did it due to "inflation", at least there is acknowledgement of truth that inflation really exists out there and not insult public's intelligence otherwise as if it did not.
No one is saying there is no inflation... it's just not as big a deal as you make it out to be. More scary would be 0 or negative inflation.

Anyways I digress and think we are getting a bit off topic. In terms of Borgata, they've already raised the cap of 1/2 games. As you know, a 500 max 1/2 plays much higher than the previous $300 capped 1/2 game.
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01-14-2019 , 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by fast11375
In terms of Borgata, they've already raised the cap of 1/2 games. As you know, a 500 max 1/2 plays much higher than the previous $300 capped 1/2 game.
They raised the minimum to $100. Max is still $300.

2/5 max increased from $500 to $1000.
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01-14-2019 , 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot
Anyone know how long sportsbook winning tickets are good for, if there is even an expiration date on them?
Depends, but most are at least 120 days after the event. Some are 180 days.
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01-14-2019 , 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Mother Mucker
Depends, but most are at least 120 days after the event. Some are 180 days.
forgot i posted this, thanks for the reply. actually found out the answer by turning the ticket over. back of the ticket says 1 year after the event took place.
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01-14-2019 , 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by fast11375
No one is saying there is no inflation... it's just not as big a deal as you make it out to be. More scary would be 0 or negative inflation.
I beg to differ on the "big deal" part of your aforementioned. Tell the large growing segment of the populace out there suffering inflation that it is no big deal. Just because you are not experiencing it, does not mean it is still NOT a big deal. There but for the grace of God go I. A growing large segment of American people are dying now b/c medicine is out of reach more than ever in terms of unaffordable prices. Homelessness along the coasts (now moving inward) is exacerbating. Food and energy and taxes and transportation are also ravaging many now. And I am not even getting into discretionary items that people don't need like movies, sporting event prices etc.

0 inflation would be welcome as that would engender stable price of currency while negative can be argued for many a consumer as a welcome in terms of overall falling prices (not good if a producer or merchant selling falling priced items). Again, 1-3 would stink but the hotel again will have a good excuse - worsening inflation.

Last edited by HurtLocker; 01-14-2019 at 10:24 AM.
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01-14-2019 , 12:10 PM
Please take all further talk of inflation to Politics or Economics forum, thanks.
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