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Old 04-04-2009, 10:53 PM   #201
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I have two completely unrelated questions, both of which are probably dumb.

1. On the wait list, some people's names/initials are colored -- I've seen pink and orange, and maybe one other. What does that mean?

2. What is the deal with those two tiny windows on the side of the building, totally breaking up the nice shiny facade?
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Old 04-04-2009, 10:58 PM   #202
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I have two completely unrelated questions, both of which are probably dumb.

1. On the wait list, some people's names/initials are colored -- I've seen pink and orange, and maybe one other. What does that mean?
I'm not sure what the color code is exactly, but I think people with different colors means they are on the list for multiple games or something like that.
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Old 04-05-2009, 12:14 AM   #203
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Oh yeah, I forgot another one:

3. Forgive my ignorance, but what does it mean when eateries offer 1/1 comp prices vs. 2/1?

And as a follow-up, which places inside Borgata offer the best value when paying at least part of your meal with comp $? A bunch of eateries have been mentioned, but it's hard to put it all together.
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Old 04-05-2009, 12:26 AM   #204
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I'm not sure what the color code is exactly, but I think people with different colors means they are on the list for multiple games or something like that.
I think pink means your name is on more than one list and orange means you're on the dinner list.
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Old 04-05-2009, 12:58 AM   #205
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Oh yeah, I forgot another one:

3. Forgive my ignorance, but what does it mean when eateries offer 1/1 comp prices vs. 2/1?

And as a follow-up, which places inside Borgata offer the best value when paying at least part of your meal with comp $? A bunch of eateries have been mentioned, but it's hard to put it all together.
1/1 comp dollars mean it counts 100%. So if you have $20 on comps on your card and you want the buffet for $28, you use $20 comp and $8 cash.

2/1 is worth 50%. Lets say you order $28 worth of crap at the cafeteria. You use your $20 comp and it only counts for $10 since they are a 2/1 place. Then you need to pay $18 on cash as well.

Basically comps count 1/1 at Borgata owned places. They count 2/1 for places that just pay rent to operate at the Borgata.



Your best values of the Comp dollars are the Buffet which is excellent, and Bread & Butter which is pretty good IMO. Other 1/1 places I'm not as crazy about are The Metropolitan and Risi Bisi.
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Old 04-05-2009, 04:20 AM   #206
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im thinking of playing the 50k guarantee at borgata this friday at 12 noon right?
can anyone give me indepth analysis of this specific tourney......also about what 1st pays..and how many people make the money and so on
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Old 04-05-2009, 04:56 AM   #207
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2. What is the deal with those two tiny windows on the side of the building, totally breaking up the nice shiny facade?
lol, I've always wondered that
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Old 04-05-2009, 11:03 AM   #208
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What is the deal with those two tiny windows on the side of the building, totally breaking up the nice shiny facade?


Those are the mechanical rooms.
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Old 04-06-2009, 11:16 AM   #209
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Old 04-06-2009, 12:27 PM   #210
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B+

Anyone gonna be in town this week/weekend? 3-day weekend for most.
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Old 04-07-2009, 04:44 PM   #211
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Anybody going to the Borgata tonight or tomorrow before 8pm? I have a room and leaving out of Port Authority tonight. PM me if you're down to come down or playing tonight. Would enjoy talking poker with somebody from the forum while down there. Let me know!
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Old 04-07-2009, 07:37 PM   #212
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Old 04-07-2009, 09:24 PM   #213
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yea, i just got an email from borgata with a bbj promotion. They have a link now with current bad beat jackpot status.
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Old 04-08-2009, 11:14 AM   #214
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Some people are actually falling for the BBJ promotion.

Last weekend at a 3/6 LHE table, someone asked a woman, "don't you usually play 10/20 and 20/40?" Her response, "at this table I have a better chance of hitting the jackpot."


BTW -- if a casino HAS to have a BBJ, I wish they'd make it Aces-full to qualify. I fully understand the reasoning for making it so hard to win, so they can advertise how big the jackpot is. But if I have to lose $1 from every pot I win, I'd rather it be a smaller jackpot, if it will give me better odds to actually hit the damn thing!
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Old 04-08-2009, 01:09 PM   #215
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Promotions are good for the game.

I know they hurt our bottom line a bit, but the types of action and players they bring to the game very much overcomes that.
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Old 04-08-2009, 01:24 PM   #216
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gonna be around Friday and Saturday playing 2/5, anyone else?
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Old 04-08-2009, 02:44 PM   #217
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Some people are actually falling for the BBJ promotion.

Last weekend at a 3/6 LHE table, someone asked a woman, "don't you usually play 10/20 and 20/40?" Her response, "at this table I have a better chance of hitting the jackpot."
Last time I sat at the 10/20LHE, it was not eligible for the BBJ. Also, it is tends to be "easier" to see the river at 3/6. Not sure about the eye roll.
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Old 04-08-2009, 03:30 PM   #218
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Hey, i will also be around friday and saturday playing some 2/5. I live in CT so I spend all my time playing at Foxwoods and Mohegan...but Borgata is my favorite, can't wait.
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Old 04-09-2009, 11:47 AM   #219
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Last time I sat at the 10/20LHE, it was not eligible for the BBJ. Also, it is tends to be "easier" to see the river at 3/6. Not sure about the eye roll.
I just thought it was crazy that she would play so far below her normal stakes, just so she has a shot at winning the BBJ

Assuming that she is a winning player at 10/20 and above -- that's a huge drop in her win rate, to win something that has odds roughly equivalent to a PowerBall lottery ticket.
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Old 04-09-2009, 12:02 PM   #220
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Last time I sat at the 10/20LHE, it was not eligible for the BBJ. Also, it is tends to be "easier" to see the river at 3/6. Not sure about the eye roll.

Why was 10/20 not eligible & yet 3/6 is eligible ? Was there not enough players at the table or somthing, makes no sence ?
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Old 04-09-2009, 02:17 PM   #221
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Anyone here like cheese?
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Old 04-09-2009, 02:43 PM   #222
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At Borg, 10/20 originally wasn't eligible because supposedly management realized that most of the players didn't want it. Then a quick informal survey of a table or two supposedly changed that perception and they began taking the $1/hand and having it eligible. Within the last couple of weeks, they have changed the rule to where they now only take the $1 when the pot hits $100 (at $10/20 only).
They also require 7, yes seven!, people need to be in the hand at 10-20 for the hand to be eligible. So when the game is short, they stop taking the $1.
IMHO, if they took a comprehensive survey of all the regs who've logged long hours in this game, they would decisively prefer that 10/20 NOT be BBJ eligible.
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Old 04-09-2009, 03:15 PM   #223
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From a thread i asked about the different Qualifications in
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...24&postcount=8 here was Borgata's Response.
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First off I would like to say that I have managed rooms in multiple states and regions in the US. I was hoping that when I arrived in New Jersey to run the Borgata poker room I would never see the bad beat jackpot again. Personally I think the bad beat jackpot changes the true game of poker and makes people play differently, Not to mention how it changes the poker economy dramatically. The Borgata was the last room to implement the bad beat. Once the Taj and Tropicana decided to implement it we had no choice to follow in the same direction. I am well aware that small rooms with out the bad beat can not compete fairly with rooms such as ours and taj. Our rooms are large enough to attract thousands of players each day. We have multiple game types and limits. Smaller rooms survive basically on three to five varieties of game limits and types. Such as 2-4 limit hold'em, 1-2 no limit and 2-5 no limit. Some may also be able to offer 1-5 stud and 3-6 limit hold'em. With that said, I truly understand that there will always be a healthy debate over this issue. I understand both sides all to well. I ran a room in Tunica years ago and without the bad beat we would have had little play. I was hoping though that the competition in Atlantic City would not include the higher limit games such as 10-20 and 20-40. At first I did not include the 10-20 game and the numbers fell on that particular game. We still run up to (3) 20-40 games on weekdays and (5) on weekends. The majority of players that play in our 20-40 games do not want it. I am well aware that there are players that do. Now to get to the question at hand. Why 7 players and $100 in the pot!

Simple answer to me but I understand that there will be differences in this issue. I would like to add that we are never married to any one policy and these policies can and will be changed if needed. I am open to all ideas and thoughts on the subject to help all involved. Once we implemented the bad beat in the 10-20 game it was harder to start a short handed game. Why? with only four to six players playing 10-20 limit we could easily deal 30 hands each thirty minutes. $30 divided by 4 players equals a cost of $7.50 dollars per player or $15 per hour plus the half time X 2.
Some players make a living playing poker. This additional cost for bad beat is hard to make up. Not to mention on the other hand that when a game gets short late at night the games tends to break more easily.
The $100 pot makes a lot of sense to me because its the same ratio as the $20 pot is to 2-4, 5 times the big bet. Lower limit players seem to be more recreational and like to have a good time while gambling. The bad beat is not much of a concern to lower limit players. The size of the pots and the amount of money on the table does not compare to the six figure jackpots totals that we have on a regular basis. The last jackpot that hit Tuesday put us over the $1million dollar mark. Yes, we paid out our $1million in jackpots in three months. Back to the issue at hand. When we started the bad beat on the 10-20 game with a $20 pot minimum we were taking an average of $300 per shift (8 hours). With the 7 player minimum and the $100 pot requirements we cut that to less than half. This is a huge savings to the players over the long haul. I will always entertain the thought going back to 4 players for the 10-20 as long as the players want it.

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Old 04-09-2009, 08:50 PM   #224
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wow...great answer..makes sence now...im a 5/10..6/12 or 7.5/15(pink chip)..and was going to start to move up to 10/20..so i was a little surprised to hear the no BBJ at 10/20..but clears it up.
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Old 04-11-2009, 03:59 PM   #225
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I played at the Borgata 2/5 NL on Thursday/Friday for the first time in probably close to a year and...wow I forgot how good the action is. I was card dead for the most part, ran horribly when any money went in, and had my largest 2-day loss ever but I don't think I can justify playing 2/5 anywhere else.

In other news, my friend made the house ship it to him in roulette. I saw him hit $75 on 8 for $2,625 and after I left he texted me to tell me he hit again for ~$2,400. I felt nauseous after the first one because I almost threw down $50 just in case.
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