I was at the Borgata last week. This was my second time there. I went there to play 10/20 LHE (a similar stakes LHE is rarely spread anywhere else) and 2/5 NLHE because the maximum buy in was only $500. 2/5 is a step up for me, and I thought it would be best to play it with a smaller max buy in. Obviously $500 max is no more. I didn't realize this until I saw most of the players at my brand new table bought in for considerable more than $500. I played anyway with $500, and in 2 1/2 hours managed to get myself felted, rebuy $500 more, slowly build it back a little, and win a big hand to get it all back, plus a little over $100. With over $1100 in front of me, I looked around and saw almost everyone had me at least close to covered. This psyched me out so I cashed out, and the rest of my trip played limit when the 10/20 game was running, and 1/2 when it wasn't.

I realize they can't please everyone, but one aspect of this change confuses me. My assumptions are admittedly based on my two trips there, plus the infrequent times I looked at this thread or the Bravo app, but didn’t they used to run two 2/5 games before? Where one had a max of $500 and the other (called 2/5 deep) had a max of $1000? And the regular $500 game ran at least 10x more tables than the deep $1000 game?

I looked back at this thread to see if anyone commented on this change, but very little was said. It looks like they raised either the minimum or maximum buy ins, if not both, for all NLHE games. But specific to the 2/5 games, if my assumptions are correct, that would mean that their customers had a choice of two similar products, and all but a few times one was chosen over the other. So they stopped offering the nearly unanimously favored one. They basically told their customers to either play the game they were not choosing before, pick a different game, or stop playing there. That doesn’t make much sense. Can anyone clarify?

I can tell you from the edit history of the thread FAQ thread, that before March 2014 there was only a 200-500 game. Then from Mar14-Feb15 there was also a 300-1000 deep game. Then in Mar15 they merged them into 1 range of 200-1000.

2/5 deep never really ran. It was mostly converted 2/5 games when fun players built up stacks and the regs wanted to stack up.
I've been surprised by the % of people that buy in close or at 1K and also the limited number of people that short buy for 200.

The $1000 max only goes back to the adjustment of all the NL buy-ins in August, doesn't it? For a long time they were firm that the $500 max for 2/5 wasn't going to change, and I only took that note out of the FAQ in the most recent edit.

Seems you're right. That's what happens when I'm falling asleep

This explains things. I have always bought in for the max, as I believe it intimidates some of my opponents, so I never even asked about the minimums. But playing 1/2 and 1/3, I've never seen a max over $500. I guess for $1000, I was the one intimidated.

If you like to have the biggest stack on the table, check out 1 2 game at Harrahs Atlantic City (across the road from Borgata). Most players buy-in for $200 or $300 there, but the buy-in limits are $100-$500, so you can proudly sit with your $500 stack there and feel like a big stack! You are welcome!

i think this guy has a valid point. the 2-5 game was revered at borgata when it was 500 max. deep stack was always available for sign-up. everyone chose 500 cap. why change?

Offering it as two separate games was probably the issue...

Did everyone play 100-500 because of the lower cap, or because that's what everyone played? As long as deep was a separate game that you had to ask for specifically and wasn't widely known, most players would end up at the regular games. Why would players who actually wanted the higher cap put themselves in a smaller player pool?

Though yeah, it doesn't exactly make sense that it was firmly and intentionally a 500 cap game and was going strong...so they raised the cap.

If you want to kill a good 2-5 game, just raise its cap to $1000 and make your 1-3 cap $500, or even better just make them no cap buyin games. Don't believe me just ask Beau. If you make the 1-3 game play like a 2-5, won't be a need for folks to move up to the bigger game.

I was thinking about moving more to 2-5 last year but realized our 1-3 $500 cap get so deep that usually by the time a 2-5 opens no one wants to move even though it is uncapped. Also when the 2-5 goes it also gets very deep quick. I looked a day last weekend at the 2-5. The smallest stack was about $1200, the big stack was just shy of $20k and the average was about $2500. When the average stack is 400 BBs deep and the deepest is 4000 BBs deep, are you really playing 2-5? Maybe when my poker roll gets to $50k so I have 20 $2500 buy ins I will consider it again.

That is what happens if a room lets it's games get so big relative to the blinds by raising caps.

Hey I know this is random posting but I'm not sure who can help at Borgata. I have some pictures taken of me online from tournaments I was in several years ago. I would like these removed, does anyone know who I can reach out to who can help?

What to expect for the weekend before Christmas? Crazy packed poker room?

You mean next Friday and Saturday? I would think very busy, Sunday... Not so much.

But that's just my guess.

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I was there Xmas day last year, it was decently busy

I’ve been around Christmas as but not in a while. I would expect Friday/Saturday to be busy but just thought I would see what you guys think. Specifically 10/20 and above limit.

Big high hand promos for the days after xmas. 26-31st. $250 every 15mins with rollovers. Plus 2 hot seat winners every hour for $125 borgata gift card. These will be the busy days

Will I be ok leaving my car in the parking lot for 3 days?

3 days no problem. I've personally stayed 4 nights without moving my car without issue.

Never an issue. Have seen cars not move in months in various garages in the city. Borgata being one of them. And i stay 4 nights at a time without leaving sometimes and I've never had an issue.

i've left my car in the lot for two weeks without moving it while staying there

So was planning to come up for the Borgata WPO. Reviewing the structures, it shows all the multi-days as Best Stack Forward. This makes me hesitate as I know I'll only be able to play 1 Day 1.
Did most play a few Day 1's? Am I at big or little disadvantage here?
Thanks!

It is best stack forward, not combine all stacks (Stackbuilder), so your equity is same regardless of how many flights you play. As a matter of fact playing again after bagging is a mistake mathematically speaking!

Are you exempt from parking fee of you're staying at hotel?

Yes

Hi guys. I am taking my whole family to the buffet, but the Eves' dinner is much more expensive than usual. Anyone knows if it offers better food or just because it is New Year Eve? Appreciate if anyone can give some advice.

New Year's Eve Buffet
Dinner:$57.95
4pm - 10:30pm