The latest it has run so far is 3am.

Stan

alright might head down tonight or tomorrow. Thanks stan.

Yes we have one each right now.

Time for a live game report Saturday 5:40pm

(4) 2-4 LHE
(3) 3-6 LHE
(1) 7.50-15 LHE
(2) 10-20 LHE
(2) 20-40 LHE
(2) 40-80 LHE

(1) 1-2 PLO
(1) 7.50-15 Omaha H/L
(1) 10-20 O.E.
(1) 150-300 O.E.
(1) 600-1200 H.O.S.E.

(2) 30-60 Stud
(1) 100-200 Stud

(21) 1-2 NL
(12) 2-5 NL
(4) 5-10 NL
(1) 10-25 NL
(1) 25-50 NL

(101) 11am $300 + $40 NL Tourny


BBJP $95,588

Stan

Stan-

I have a question for you pertaining to eating in the poker room. I understand that management ususally tends to cater to the higher limits (isn't that how life seems to be in general...catering to the upper crust?), but, why is it that the bulk of Borgata's poker room is prohibited to have food at the table? And, I'm fairly certain that most of the money made for the House is directly coming from the front part of the room; the part where the players are not allowed to consume food.

I was playing in a PLO game lasy week (which btw, was playing just as high if not higher than some of the games that are spread in the high limit room) and I actually got repremanded by a floorperson AND security for eating a piece of fruit at the table!!! Are you s****ing me?!

I'm sure the high limit players are no cleaner, neater than anyone else, and I know there are plenty of sweepers to go around. So, why would Borgata treat their bread and butter unfairly? I don't get it. I'm paying rake to play there just like everybody else, and sometimes, I don't want to be forced to leave the game, miss hands, and go force down a salad or a cookie. You want to set limits as to *what* foods would be allowed, fine. But if I can't nibble on a cookie and get dealt in, then there's something wrong with that, imho.

Now, I understand that you are not the only one who's steering the ship, but, you are the only one on here that could provide input and perhaps make something good/fair happen for all...?

now imagine yourself a 10/20lhe player. the game is spread mon-thur in the high limit room where we get to enjoy all of said benefits, but on weekends, we're put out with the rest of yas and treated like red-headed step children! I have always found that odd, but have accepted it due to the higher games spread during weekends.

actually, i have wondered why the 10/20 mix game isnt in the hi limit room on weekdays as well?

They chose to be on table 19. See prior post about table picking. They chose 19 so that they will be visible to the masses. Good move on their part.

Stan

Please dig deep into this thread and you will see many players thanking us for not having food at these tables.

Stan

Putting the 10/20 mixed game in the high limit room may cause the game to suffer simply due to the fact that, most new players tend not to step inside the high limit room which means that the game will be less inclined to attract new players, and, it might even cause some of the casual OE players to overlook it. No, the table that the game is spread on now is perfect because it's right smack in the middle.

I understand about doing something a little special for the nosebleed section (like they used to do every Saturday nights....I've played plenty of 75 OE when it was being spread) but on a daily basis, I don't understand why 80% of the room should be treated like second-class citizens.

Yet noone in the high limit room seems to mind having the option?

Not to mention that the decision to not allow food in the main room was obviously in effect before you ever got any feedback on it so you really had no idea as to how many would enjoy it and how many would not. I've asked around, too, and just about every player I spoke to said they would like to have the option. (I mean, there's a reason why players are sneaking salads and cookies from the lounge whilst at the table, Stan. It's because they enjoy eating while playing. It's every poker players right, imo. >>>To enjoy snacking right at the table).

Stan won't say it because he's professional and runs the room:

I assume you can't eat in the regular section because your average person playing lower limits is a slob. Not everyone of course, but it doesn't take very many to make a big mess of chips, cards, and the slob's surrounding area.

It's how you were raised. It has nothing to do with how much money you have or for what stakes you may play at. I play 40/80 stud at the Taj. In the high limit area. Ain't noone more slobby then those high limit stud players.

The only reason why it may seem that the lower limit players are more of a slob, is because there are simply more people in that room. The bigger the family, the bigger the mess. Simple. But, like I said earlier, these are the players that are the true bread and butter for the Borgata, and if the majority would like to have the option to eat while playing, then I think, that a poker room of this caliber should allow just that and hire more folks to clean up if that's what it takes. And, if the room becomes completely out of hand, then you simply take the priveldge away.

It's great that people can't eat at the tables. Slows the game down and usually poker players are eating unhealthy grease which transfers to chips and cards. Being reprimanded for eating a piece of fruit seems a little extreme, but no food at the tables is a good thing.

Cleaning the poker room when all 85 tables are in use isn't a matter of hiring enough people. You simply can't get to the mess when there are 10 people sitting at every table. I probably should have just said that the average person is messy, especially when outside of his/her home.

Also, bigger games generate more in time collection than smaller games on a per table basis. There are also other considerations: guests that the casino would consider "whales" that sometimes play poker and want to eat at the table while playing higher limits.

Then let it be no food at ANY of the tables, then. That sounds more fair to me.

Here's my opinion:

The average person is a slob. I was in the Borgata poker room at the $1/$2 NL tables, and a guy two seats to my right put a half full beer on the floor below the table. I looked at the beer, than at him. He said, "Do you have a problem with that?" I said, "Well, anyone could easily knock it over and spill beer on the floor, the Borgata staff work awfully hard to keep the poker room clean, you probably don't like to spill beer on your floor at home, do you? And there's a trash can ten feet behind you. So yeah; I've got a problem with you putting a half full beer on the floor when you could just push your chair back ten feet and throw it away." He then picked up the beer and threw it away.

Also, the Borgata high limit room is a small portion of the poker room to manage, if it's not being kept clean.

No eating in the main section of the Borgata poker room is the way to go, Stan.

Au contraire! And, with all due respect, your statement is irrelevant; there are just too many more raked games vs. the Time games, that even with that being true, it would simply negate itself.

Listen, if you're a tight player and have the option to pay time or have a rake taken, then clearly you should chose rake because you might not even play a hand in a half hours time. But, this is not about how much YOU or I may lose/profit, this is about how much the HOUSE is generating from the two. And, believe me, this House makes a helluva lot more from the raked games than they do the Time games (with the exception of high low games simply because the avg. dealer can't get out nearly as many hands, so in that situation, a Time collection would be more advantageous for the House).

Well, I guess I'm in the minority then. Kudos to my parents for bringing me up right.

All I'd like, is to be able to eat a piece of fruit or a salad and not feel like I committed a crime. I woudn't eat fried chicken and the likes anyway...I'm talking simple food that doesn't lend itself to papers and grease and ketchup packets all over the place. That's all.

Stan -- table update please.

Sorry if this has been answered, just reading old posts. Is this accurate for the LHE PCG? I bought in last week for $300 and some people bought in for $100...

Time for a live game report Saturday 10:10pm

(5) 2-4 LHE
(2) 3-6 LHE
(2) 7.50-15 LHE
(2) 10-20 LHE
(3) 20-40 LHE
(2) 40-80 LHE

(2) 1-2 PLO
(1) 7.50-15 Omaha H/L
(1) 10-20 O.E.
(1) 150-300 O.E.
(1) 800-1600 H.O.S.E.

(2) 100-200 Stud

(26) 1-2 NL
(14) 2-5 NL
(4) 5-10 NL
(1) 10-25 NL
(1) 25-50 NL

(101) 11am $300 + $40 NL Tourny


BBJP $95,588

Stan

I don't know why the High limit games can eat at the table - but I know that I'm happy low limit players can't.

And this is why you're not only intelligent but a good person.

I saw a lot of good buy-ins today.

Stan

But the minimum isn't $500, is it? It's more of a recommendation.

No, the minimum is not $500. I just meant that i saw a lot of two rack buy-ins today.

Stan