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Im heading to Jacksonville for a day or two. I see there are 2 Best Bets in Jacksonville and Orange Park? Any reason to play at one over the other?

Which is in a better part of town with nicer hotels? I will have my wife with me.

Neither are in nice parts of town. The Jacksonville one is much nicer. Games are good in both. You could stay near the beach and drive to the Jax room easily - kind of depends on what your wife wants to do.

Thx. I guess Ill be hitting up the Jax room tomorrow.

how many tables of 2-5nl usually run during the week ( monday - thursday )

I was there today from 6p-10p. At 6:00 when I arrived there were (3) 2/5 tables. When I left at 10:00, there were (5)

depends on time of day and promotions - but 2 an hour after open - 5+- early evening

I feel like games are tougher compare to other casinos I have been to.

Bump, WptDeepStacks starts this weekend, anyone on here going to be there?

new to this area, moved here 2 nights ago via plane from Reno. not too bad of room but no phone chargers on the tables sure is a pain in the ass, and paying for coffee (nit). the 2/2 NL buyin structures suck too but i won over $500 yesterday then lost $265 tonight. game was so loose i got frustrated i gave back the profit then tried to steal dumbly. but the game is much looser than in reno. good action for sure.

one annoyance. 10 of us on the $1-2 PLO8 list, they wouldnt even call it down. i guess they refused to risk killing the $5-5 hi only, which of course i cant afford, plus im horrible in high only

ive spent most of the past 20 yrs of my life in $1-2 or $1-3 NL, to earn $40k or so per year. not used to $2-5 NL but now that its only $100 min buyin, would it be doable on a $20k roll? not sure, due to lack of experience with $2-5. who else does well in $2-5 with the lower buyins? whats a good hourly? $25? more? less? i get $14-28 in $1-2 $1-3 in other cities, different cities widely vary somehow.

only reason i moved here is to cut out the money i kept losing on BJ. so nice they dont have it here.

Stick with what works for you now. Don't be deceived by the lower min buy-in for 2/5. You should be looking at the max buy-in, not the min. Only move up if you have built your bankroll to the point where you are comfortable buying in (and playing) for the max.

My experience with Jax Best Bet 2/5 games is that it is one of the worst in the country (as well as in the 7 countries I have played outside the US over the past 12 years). Even during one of the cities busiest weekends, UGA/FL football game, AND usually having a WPT event during the same time, the 2/5 was infested with locals that buy in for the minimum, double up, move tables, rinse and repeat. There are always plenty of tables open or minimal wait to perpetuate the cycle without any rules in place to prevent the hit and runners.

The only games that seemed moderately profitable are the infrequent 5/10 or PLO games during a WPT series but always seemed to break after a couple hours.

I have visited the room over a dozen trips so this is a SMALL but consistent sample. It is a shame since Jax has some of the best/reasonably priced food and extremely competent dealers. My perception is it more of a local room with more blue collar regs than retirees and therefore one of the most undesirable in Fl.

I played 2 sessions there a couple weeks ago and didnt see anything like what you described.

SMPoker,

I have a pretty decent sample size at BB JAX, (20+ sessions over 2-3 years, ~150+ hrs) and I am a winning rec player who travels to play about 15-20 days a year mostly to FL, LA, LV. (I live in Atlanta and practice law). Upon first impressions I thought like you that the Best Bet JAX room sucked because of the regs to recs ratios and a little too much familiarity, soft-play, possible collusion, nitting it up, etc. I personally hate reg filled games, and I very much look for the best rooms, games, and tables. But to be honest over time I have changed my view of this room significantly over time. While it is definitely not the softest room in the world it is in no way the hardest either. Some smaller rooms may be easier to beat but don't run the bigger games, 2-5 and up consistently enough. While I don't want to give a huge play style analysis in this post, I think the key is to study what you observed the locals doing and adjust appropriately. GTO changes from room to room based on buy in strategies of the regulars IMO. Once you "discover" your own correct adjust to "short stacking" and other styles that you see being used or over used in a room you will find this room to be pretty soft overall.

Chipreese100

Fair analysis of the room and using the culture to your advantage is a positive way to accept the conditions. Picking off short stacks one by one winning flips is just not what I am used to at 2/5.

I can't help but to have compassion for players as they don't seem to be rolled to be playing 2/5, or any poker for that matter. I see/smell too many players coming in after a hard days work, buying in with all the small bills they have and desperate to run it up. I understand having a killer mindset and it is their decision etc. but I am not used to playing at 2/5 with players that visibly do not disassociate chips from money.

I see this a lot too. I play 1/2nl (bankroll dictates such, and it's not a bad game at my room) and I'm always looking at players thinking "these chips mean so much more to you than me" in terms of life roll. One night there was this lady (was a reg, not so much now.. probably due to going busto multiple times) and she was crying at the table after losing a big pot.. she's a super nit and I think she thinks she's really good (just an impression could be wrong). It was really a sad experience seeing silent tears dropping behind her sun glasses.

I'm here maybe once a week. I'm always in at 2/5 for the max. While I see a lot of local regulars buying in for less than max, they play a fairly loose passive game that is easily and quickly identifiable.

I agree in part. Disagree about the PLO -its one of the most pro heavy PLO games in the State and when the 5-10 NLH game runs it usually is 7 pros.

There are four basic problems with the room. 1) Jax does not have that many wealthy people compared to other cities and the room does not market to them at all, 2) Living in Jax is dirt cheap so the young grinders that cant make enough nitting it up in the more expensive areas all move to Jax and make the games horrible, 3) The cap structures are by far and away the worse in Florida and 4) they use high hand promotions aggressively and that means that during promotions the $5 games are filled with short stackers checking top set to make quads - horrible for the games.

I agree i dont like the 2/2nl cap of $200, i think it should be $300

OK, but if the games in Jax are so horrible and so much juicier in S. Florida, shouldn't these young grinders be able to make much more money in S. Florida than Jacksonville and be able to afford the higher cost of living? If the games in Jacksonville are so horrible, then the young grinders cant be making enough money even though the cost of living is cheaper. It reminds me of "which came first? The chicken or the egg?"

The 2/5 game is $200-$500 isnt it? That's the same as it most places in Florida other than the Hard Rock which is $200-$600.

They make $10-20 an hour wherever they are. They are not good so its not like they make more sets in South Florida. That win rate goes a lot further here. The games are beatable - just not as good as many other locations.


The game is 100-500 and easily 60% minbuy when there are promotions. They hit and run a lot as well - then walk over to another table and buy back in for $100. The floors will punish if you report them but they dont get caught and even when caught will drop to 2-2 for an hour then back to 2-5