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Originally Posted by pig4bill
There you go. They had plenty of one dollar chips, so as long as they can keep taking rake, they don't care.
I didn't see any chip runners, at all. If there were any, one would think the dealers would have asked for a fill. Since there were no chip runners, dealers were selling black out of the rack.
Look, people. I sat when this table started. I played through at least 4 dealer downs. Never once did any dealer ask or look for a chip runner, nor did I notice any in the room. The business where the dealer sold blacks and then asked other players to make change happened a good 10 times while I was there. Everyone acted like it was completely standard. When I asked the dealer about fills and she answered no, a couple players also said "Naw, they don't do that".
Maybe it's different in high limit, but that's how things are at 1/3.
Now I see the disconnect. You are not saying the dealers don't get fills when they need them. You are saying the dealers don't get the fills you think they should be getting because you think they should be getting red chips to sell in the $1-$3 game.
But this is not practical. The nature of the game is that dealers are constantly converting red chips from the pot into white chips from the rack. So they are taking in red chips and losing white chips.
now the racks only fit so many chips. I can't speak for the Bellagio, but in my room our racks have six tubes in which you can ideally keep 2 stacks in a tube (you can reasonably fit 2.5 stacks in a tube, or if you jam it up 2.75 stacks in a tube but that is a pain in the ass to deal with).
Now lets suppose you think that the dealer should be getting a fill to keep enough red chips in the rack to sell to players for each buy in. How much of the rack do you need to keep red? 6 stacks? One player sits down and buys in for $300. now you need a fill again because you don;t have 6 stacks of red. And if you are keeping black and green chips available in the rack that is even less space for white chips.
So you bring in red chips as you go you sell those as needed along with black or green and if there is a lot of red on the table lett the players make change for each other ... or get a chip runner or brush dealer to convert other chips.
You don;t bring red in for a fill. You get fills to bring in white chips. I know this seems wrong to sme people but they are people who haven't really thought about the mechanics of the rack and the flow of chips. (and people used to table table games and NJ style poker where the racks are bigger and dealers stop the game to color up departing players)