When I was there for a few weekdays about a month ago, the 10/20 was going every day, but sometimes just for a few hours in the afternoon. The 20/40 always had at least one game going, plus a must move that would start up, die, then start up again.

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There's actually another side to this story, and it's that a lot of complaints come out of poker rooms and they drive some casino executives crazy. This is even true at casinos that have small poker rooms, and thus they'll often get shut down because the executive gets tired of having more complaints come from his six table room than from the rest of the casino. So the fact that some small poker rooms have recently been closed, well, that's the way it's always been except durng the few years when poker was booming.

In addition, there's also a flaw in your argument above. While it may be true that slots bring in more per square foot than a poker table, it doesn't mean that adding more slots to the casino floor will increase the slot revenue, and having more space for their slot tournamemts, as you describe, is sort of the equvalent of adding more slot machines. Of course, this doesn't mean that you're wrong, and the few times that I looked at the M Poker Room it didn't have much business.

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Mason

Good points and thanks for offering that viewpoint. I didn't factor (or honestly know) that complaints would play such a large factor and could be a reason for closing a poker room. I thought it always comes down to the bottom line (money) so they will deal with complaints unless they end up spending too much money handling the complaints or they lead to legal issues.

My response was mainly to argue with some random statements people made in this thread about poker losing popularity and rooms closing down. They used some random examples of rooms closing so I figure that I would argue the opposite for the sake of argument (isn't that what forums are for ).

I plan on flying out tomorrow and playing 2-5, 1-2 or 1-3 NL and some 10-20 LHE...

I have not been to or stayed at Bellagio in over 5 years...

Is it still the end all be all for poker or has Aria taken over?

That's a strange assumption to include in your question as a given. Aria isn't the only game in town, there are plenty of tables at 2/5 at Bellagio, Aria, Venetian, Wynn, MGM. 1/2 or 1/3 is pretty much literally everywhere.

I played here for the first time today, and found it...okay. I'm actually surprised to say the room was underwhelming. I can't put my finger on why, either. Action was okay, ebbing and flowing as players rotated through the game, and there were 15-20 games going. It's a lovely room, and I suspect I may have enjoyed the experience more if I was a regular here.

I've played at 5 different casinos (Horseshoe Southern Indiana, Hollywood Kansas City, Ameristar Black Hawk, Venetian, and Bellagio) in the past 6 days and this is the first one I've left without thinking "That was fun". I'll need to give it another chance on my next Vegas trip to see if it was a fluke or not.

been to vegas 3 times

i've played at aria, monte carlo, planet hollywood, caesars, the quad, bellagio, venetian, binions, mgm

and never am i more nervous than when im at bellagio, its so weird, it takes me forever to decide to play a game

at aria i feel like a boss

bellagio seems so higher class, its weird

aria is nice, but its got such a modern feel to it like modern upper class


bellagio is like mount olympus

why do they serve their bottled waters as pre-opened? grosses me out and i had one waitress tell me this weekend that she opened it for me...no way this is true.

Why would you not believe her? Who do you think opened it?

I'm guessing they think it is classy to open it for you. When you order a beer bottle most places they open that for you too.

Cheaper to re-fill them from a sink rather than give everyone new ones.

When did they remove a few tables? It actually helped and it's not so cramped. Next, they could use bigger tv's.

I don't believe her because I was given a different reason from another server but I can't recall exactly what it was.

I understand the need to open a beer since not all are twist offs and once the lid is off it serves no purpose so it prevents clutter on the tables or floor. Also, if you ever seen the waitresses in the drink wells, then you know they are flying and garnishing their drinks and doing that sort of crap. There is zero chance they are taking the time to individually crack each bottle of water.

If you actually think Bellagio is refilling water bottles, you're an idiot.

Did I say that? If you don't know then shut it. You're batting 1.000 on negative BS comments.

I doubt they refill bottles but wouldn't put it past a waitress to pick up what looks like a new bottle off one table (left behind by someone) and re-serve it to someone else.

Have been served open bottles before at other casinos and simply asked for a new one and never been told no.

Well then what are you saying? The bottle is served open, but you claim there's zero chance the waitress did it, so... ?

You should try, like, reading the rules and stuff.

(7) Privacy of non-famous players and card room employees. Respect other players' and card room employees' privacy; do not use personally identifying information on the forum unless they have given permission to do so either explicitly on the forums or implicitly by becoming an authorized representative.

Lol at that. People have called out certain employees all the time for being good or bad. As well as people talking about other players in a certain game. And if you're going to be rude to the people that are coming in to play at your casino, you should be called out for it.

Well they're not allowed to in B&M. If any such post wasn't deleted it's because mods didn't see it. Enough derailment. If you wish to discuss further please do so in the Moderation Discussion thread: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...hread-1015451/

You're certainly implying something nefarious on their end. Otherwise, all you're doing is complaining about a total non-issue, which I guess is par for the course for a lot of poker players.

Played the past 2 weekends here and the 5/10 is just reg infested. There usually about 3 tables and a pretty big disappointment. If not regs they were just nits not giving any action.

What do you expect, the weeks before Christmas are usually worst time of year anywhere for live poker, other than the weeks straight after WSOP.

Last year every time I've had a waitress deliver Fiji to me in Bellagio's poker room it's been with the comment "I cracked the lid for you".

Most of the time the seal has been partly broken, but NOT to a point where anything nefarious could have gone down.

The idea that Bellagio would encourage - or even allow - the serving of used or refilled bottles is preposterous.

All it takes to bring the Bellagio many millions of dollars in the red is one patron contracting some unpleasant health issue and proving, that it could have been caused by Bellagio passing a contaminated water bottle on to him/her.

The idea that a major corporation in a competitive marketplace would run this risk in order to save what's likely 50 cents wholesale per bottle makes no sense.

Notice, that if it really happened the management would be trusting a secret crucial to the continued successful operation of the business in the hands of a number of close-to-bottom level employees.

This is like on the business school top ten lists of no-nos.

It's probably to prevent you, the customer, from hoarding the bottles and then reselling them yourself. And no doubt they started doing it because people were doing exactly that.

Having said that, I am in the Bellagio 1-3 times a year, and I don't recall any of my Fiji bottles ever being opened by the waitress, but I may just not be remembering.

Now that I can see, knowing that poker players are just scummy and nitty enough to do exactly that.