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10-21-2016 , 01:15 PM
They interpret the law that way because they want to. The state law may say that rake can't be based on percentage of the pot, but it doesn't say it has to be all taken out on the flop.
In southern CA they take out the last dollar on the river. The really big games have a time charge.
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10-22-2016 , 03:21 AM
i remember when they went to the full rake on the flop drop. it ruined lots of games and made tight games that people split the blinds all the time and paid a smaller drop for that.

san jose mayor and city council always hated the poker games yet liked the money they got but didnt care if poker was there or not. crazy.
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10-23-2016 , 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
The really big games have a time charge.
In case you're unaware, it's that way at Bay, too.
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10-23-2016 , 12:07 AM
No, I didn't know that. So really shows they know they don't really "have to" take money out on any flop.
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10-23-2016 , 12:11 AM
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The misguided lawmakers/regulators thought that if ...
You're always posting **** which attributes X to Y, but it's always dubious attribution and often assumes a specific political viewpoint.

Sometimes liberal politicians want to nanny state the public and create stupid laws. But sometimes conservative politicans want to nanny state the public and create stupid laws too. And sometimes politicians just don't give a **** and pass stupid laws because nobody cares. And sometimes laws are just less stupid than they appear to be.

Taking the drop on the flop seems stupid if you assume at one point there was rake taken and drop replaced that. But if the history is that there was a per hand charge that was taken preflop, and then it was relaxed so that it was taken on the flop, it makes a lot more sense.
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10-23-2016 , 12:21 AM
Prior to Holdem, the main game in California was Lowball.
It was a time charge game (different rates for different limits), not a drop.

Holdem brought the dreaded drop.

You just cannot size the drop by how big the pot is. You could take $1 preflop, another $1 on the flop, another $1 on the turn and a final $1 on the river. Or you can take it all at once. But you have to do it the same way whether there is no action or tons of action on each street.

It is that way because the law that actually outlawed some forms of poker talked about house banked games -- ie games where the house had in interest in how much you gambled.
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10-23-2016 , 12:32 AM
Court decision legalizing Texas Holdem in California

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Section 330 thus proscribes certain specifically identified card and gambling games, as well as "any banking or percentage game." (A banking game is one in which the " 'house' " or " 'bank' " is the principal participant in the game, taking on all players, paying all winners and collecting from all losers. A percentage game is one in which the " 'house' " does not directly participate in the game, but collects a percentage from it which may be computed from the amount of bets made, winnings collected, or the amount of money changing hands.
The law was enacted in 1872.
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10-23-2016 , 09:21 PM
I still remember the bad old days, just a few years ago, where they took the full drop on any bet, even if there was no flop. Open raise to $15, everyone folds, they drop $5.
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10-24-2016 , 12:28 AM
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What was Bay's drop in 2006?
2006 it was $4.
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10-24-2016 , 06:49 PM
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2006 it was $4.
Greedy bastards ldo.
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10-24-2016 , 07:19 PM
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Greedy bastards ldo.

The Flea Market isn't as profitable as it used to be.
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10-24-2016 , 11:49 PM
I went to the barber once. I was displeased.
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10-25-2016 , 12:17 AM
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I went to the barber once. I was displeased.
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10-27-2016 , 06:05 AM
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In case you're unaware, it's that way at Bay, too.
I play in the high stake nl game at bay and this is not true
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10-27-2016 , 09:56 AM
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I play in the high stake nl game at bay and this is not true
80/160 LHE is a time drop.
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10-28-2016 , 11:41 PM
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80/160 LHE is a time drop.
Really? I didnt know that
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10-29-2016 , 03:00 PM
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Really? I didnt know that
11/half 7/short (unless they raised it in yhe past year)
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11-16-2016 , 04:55 AM
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The rake is now $6 for HE and $7 for O/8.

That's $240/hr leaving the table at 7 handed $3/6.
I went back to Bay 101 for the first time this year and saw them taking the extra dollar. I was quietly outraged at 20/40, but the idea of playing any limit lower than that for $6/flop blows my mind.

I wish I could play the 40/80 game, but every time I check it out I end up deciding I don't belong there.
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11-21-2016 , 05:54 PM
I scrolled through the past few dozen posts and didn't see it, but the small NL game is now 1/2/3, 3 to limp.
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04-22-2017 , 03:09 AM
Should I play at M8trix or Bay 101?

going to be around SJ area next month and want to play a few days. Only going to be there around afternoon on weekdays so is there usually good amount of games running at that time and <30min wait? I'm playing just the lowest stake so that's 1/2/3 at M8trix or 1/2/2 at Bay 101.

Also can anyone explain the rake structure? Poker Atlas says M8trix has a $5 drop and $1 no-flop drop while Bay 101 has a staggered rake up to $5, which I'm not sure what that means. And I'm just curious how chopping works with 3 blinds

Thanks!
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04-22-2017 , 09:48 AM
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1/2/2 at Bay 101
JFC
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04-22-2017 , 02:57 PM
Staggered rake is illegal there.

On a chop the button gives up his dollar, which is why I don't chop on the button in 3 blind games.

Less than half-hour wait? It happens, but you can't predict it.
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04-23-2017 , 02:34 AM
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JFC
lol just playing for fun. Ill play higher stakes, you gonna roll me?

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Staggered rake is illegal there.

On a chop the button gives up his dollar, which is why I don't chop on the button in 3 blind games.

Less than half-hour wait? It happens, but you can't predict it.
got it, thanks!
oh so poker atlas is wrong?
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04-23-2017 , 12:39 PM
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lol just playing for fun. Ill play higher stakes, you gonna roll me?



got it, thanks!
oh so poker atlas is wrong?
I was refering to the fact that even a cursory glance at the thread you're posting in would answer some questions.

Bay 101 doesn't spread 1/2/2 anymore. And Bay and M8trix are within eyesight od each other - you could easily go to one, and if the lists or games look meh, go to the other, and if they look worse, return to the first one.
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04-23-2017 , 07:19 PM
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I was refering to the fact that even a cursory glance at the thread you're posting in would answer some questions.

Bay 101 doesn't spread 1/2/2 anymore. And Bay and M8trix are within eyesight od each other - you could easily go to one, and if the lists or games look meh, go to the other, and if they look worse, return to the first one.
ah I see. I saw here someone said Bay increased their drop to $6 now for HE games, so that applies to both limit and NL?

that's crazy..
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