I don't see the tournament on their online schedule.

When is it and do you know how many BB everyone starts with?

It's Event 6 of the Bay 101 Open in August. 5k starting stacks with blinds at 100-200.

I've been playing the 1-2-2 a bit lately and had some rule clarifications.

A lady left the table and missed blinds and posted in the CO when I was BB. After action got around to me preflop I noticed that she had not acted yet. I mentioned to dealer that she hadn't acted yet and dealer said that she acts after me even though I'm the BB. I've never experienced this ruling before in other casinos so I was quite surprised. What is the official rule in Bay 101?

If someone limps in for $4, what is the min raise amount? I've had conflicting rulings from both dealers and floor ranging from $6 to $8. I rarely min raise but some consistency would be nice.

If there is anyone interested in playing plo, we can have it set up at bay 101. The floor is very flexible to accommodating as long as there are some players willing to start a game. cheers

Has this cardroom changed its policy about switching tables and only bringing table max not whole stack. I saw more then one player use this rule as an angle after doubling at one table to move to another and go south in the process only to have that player back in my game a few hours later with only table max and not how much they took off the table earlier

1. It is not an angle
2. It is not going south
3. If leaves the casino and comes back an hour later and sits back at your table, he doesn't have to bring what he took off. So what does it matter what he does for "a few hours"?
4. Learn to outplay the short-stackers. If they don't double/triple up through you, they can't play their table-hopping game.
5. Since they have to present all the details of a game to the Police ahead of time, I would suspect that allowing a player to circumvent the max-buy in would have to be cleared first. And one could argue that allowing that to happen would void the max-buy in rule. Which the casino does not want to happen.

Are you ******ed it is indeed an angle. Look up ratholing. These players are jumping tables just like online to bag a win.

I never said they were breaking a rule anglers usually are not technically breaking rules just misusing them to gain an unfair edge.

Automatically you assume since I complained about this action I'm losing to them ... Are you high? These guys are pretty easy to play but I don't like money leaving the table. So when they double up from someone and leave that is fine but coming back is terrible etiquette.

Going south or ratholing bleeds a game and takes away edge from the better players by forcing a game to be played with shorter stacks allowing for less streets of postflop play.

Hopefully others will back this argument.

If bay 101 said you could move your whole stack to another table people could still rathole but I bet you it would actually slow down because the people who do it would be embarrassed since it would be even more obvious what they were attempting to do

Posting to agree with pike58jack

The dealer was most likely confusing the post with the Kill thats allowed in the 5-10+ games at Bay. In those games you can post double the big blind and get last action preflop (ie act after the big blind).

Bay doesn't even require players to move their whole stack over from must move games, which is a pretty non-standard rule, most rooms force you to move your whole stack. Unlikely they would force table changers to move their whole stack (which would be super non-standard rule). I know I've played in a room that had that rule before but its pretty rare.

Allowing table changers to break the cap would most likely create actual angleshooters of the other kind. IE good players that would slip in extra chips while table changing to cover the fish. For whatever reason, some otherwise reasonable players seem to think that breaking the buyin cap is OK/reasonable/non-cheating for whatever reason.

My experience with forced-move table changes is that in most clubs you are allowed to color up and pocket some of your stack when you move, as long as you meet the table minimum.

No Limit or Limit? All the Bay Area Clubs Ive played that have had must move big bet games (10-10-20NL/PLO LC games, Artichokes NL and the Palace NL game) force the move of all the chips. Pretty sure the 10-20NL at Commerce forces the chips to move but the 5-10 doesn't, could be wrong about that though, I just assumed they moved in the 10-20 but maybe not.

I know it's sorta irrelevant to make the chips move in limit. And actually when I've spoken to the floor at Bay about this they say the reason its this way for the No Limit is because its a carry over from the limit rules (their fallback reasoning for most rule anomalies). They have told me that they plan on changing the rule however for the 5-10NL game.

I could have sworn that the last time I played even the spread limit there that a forced move (broken table, etc) that you had to take your whole stack.

I have no problem with voluntary moves being capped at table max. It's not nice when you've been playing for awhile, chip up pretty good, and a guy that moves to your table has you and everyone else covered.

I only played the spread limit games a few times at Bay so I don't remember what the rule was, but the Floor and Supervisors make it sound now like its always been a rule that must moves can chip down and that in order to change the rule they will need to resubmit revised rule to implement it. I do want to say that they have been pretty good about listening to players wishes as far as the 5-10 NL games have been so far (Running it twice, eliminating big chips etc). The only things I really have complaints about now is the Betting line and the allowing of chipping down from the must move

I agree that with voluntary movers in capped buyin no-limit games, its the lesser of two evils to force movers to adhere to the buyin cap at their new table. Else you will have big stacks jumping around the room to cover fish that have doubled up.

What is max buy in for the 2/5 NL games, how do they work? Are there max bets per hand? or do the games play like any other regular NL hold em game

thx

There's 3 blinds in the game $2 on button, $3 small, $5 big. $5 to come in. Optional $10 UTG straddle only. $500 max buyin. No max bets so plays like any other no limit game.

Agree with you about chipping down from the must move -- that rule has to be changed. The betting line is irrelevant in 5-10+ (do you mean you want it to be relevant?). Also, I heard today that a memo was sent around saying that running it 2x is no longer allowed (which is fine with me).

So the betting line plays in 1/2/2 and 2/3/5 but not 5/10 or higher? That sounds pretty weird to have different rules depending on the steaks.

Unless they issued a new memo recently the line technically plays in 5-10. There was a memo about it in early May, someone showed me the memo when it was issued. But I've been told me they are going to change it so it doesn't play.

So that really sucks if its true about running it twice. They tried to stop it a couple of months ago after they switched to drop and the game broke in protest over stopping it. They then reversed their decision.

That's managements line when I've argued about it, but the thing is, I don't think there's a single player in the bigger games that wants a betting line. Everyone knows how to play if they are playing 5-10+ and its not necessary to have a betting line.

The argument for the line is that it's there to stop angles. But if its in play for the bigger games it has the reverse effect, because everyone is used to playing with no line so most people at some point carry additional chips into the pot when making a bet or calling and cut the chips there.

Def a good rule for no line in bigger game

Are there gonna be sats for the Main event of the bay 101 open? If so, what kinds? ty

I play at Bay 101 almost everyday. Mostly 6-12 and 8-16 with 1/2 kill. But I do play the 1/2/2. They only way I've been able to be somewhat successful at that game is play super tight ABC poker and never bluff. Your opponents will look you up all day.

You have to deal with a lot of short stacks in that game and most of them with ship it light.

Can someone give me a Omaha hi/lo update/trip report? I never been here before.

They have $4/$8 omaha8 with a half kill if you scoop a pot over $40. They usually have 1 game, sometimes 2 with a must move I think. Can take a long time to get in the game.