You're right that people should gather all the facts before rushing to judgement (I am guilty of this as well). For full disclosure on this particular issue, how many players were signed up at the time of cancellation? And at what time relative to the scheduled start time did the cancellation occur? Here's an opportunity to present the facts so that players may better understand your decision.

how about you just get rid of the guarantees?

I try to give the players what they want. We try something and if it doesnt work I will try something else.
The Guarantees work in the afternoon and evening. It just seems morning doesnt have enough available players at this time so you are right. The Morning Guarantee was pulled. As always I not only like constructive comments I listen to them. :0)

So the $75 11am on Wednesday is no longer a 3k guarantee? Also, is your schedule on your website or should I follow poker atlas?

but will they pull/cancel it right before it starts due to lack of players?

Bravo Live is always your best bet on updated information since I update that myself. The others tend to be a bit behind. You are correct the morning tournaments are no longer guarantee tournaments.

Then they can give you a buffet, a free room, or, for that matter, a date with Scarlet Johansen.

As soon as what they give you creates a un-level playing field, the room makes non-regulars unwelcome.

Sorry if both CET and yourself are too blind to see that.

6 ppl reg'd

Non regulars will come regardless. I want them drunk and stupid. So if they are worried about when they are sitting down oh well. Not my problem. I see quite well. We'll enough that damn right I should sit before ur gold card carrying ass. There's other rooms. Visit them instead

Damn, Dan is working on getting all these promo's going and people still find things to b**** about. Guess whiners gonna whine.

Sure we do! It's just that we'ld like mornings to be decent and respectful. They should show up after noon.

True, so true. Here's a suggestion, Dan - how about offering them a plate of cheese to go with the whine?

Lee

Yes, there are other rooms. So not my problem either.

Maybe AC Dan should consider that rather than catering to his cry baby regulars who need seats to keep their brains warm.

Actually, we will just play in rooms that aren't run like !#$&.

Not sure if serious.

"The perks" should be coming out of the casino, not at the expense of the other players.

Very serious. A common tier card perk is being able to jump the line at restaurants... "priority seating" it's often called. Are you against that too? Casinos have decided that they don't want their higher/regular players to sit around waiting. I'm a 100% proponent of this.

+10000000

Very serious. A common tier card perk is being able to jump the line at restaurants... "priority seating" it's often called. Are you against that too? Casinos have decided that they don't want their higher/regular players to sit around waiting. I'm a 100% proponent of this.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Are u guys serious,,,wgaf about that line jumping. I always thought thats the way it was anyway. Ceasers was always like that. Hey maybe thats why they shut down the poker room in Ceasers. Nowadays,,thats a perk. You guys can keep that "perk".
Grind away,,, make that diamond card,,,I only ask that you show it to the waitress when I want a bottled beer. Now thats a perk.
I ll be down tomorrow,,first time in the new room. Gonna play my usual,,tourney and some 2/5 if available.

Couldn't give a hoot about the restaurant. I go to casinos to play poker, not eat.

You say "casinos have decided ..." ... which ones? Commerce? Borgata? Foxwoods? Parx?

That's great. But it's not all about you. Do you even try to look at it from the casino's POV?

Sure. It is all part of the casinos continuing to reward one set of players at the expense of another set of players.

Promotions? We got the best! Of course, we aren't paying for them; we are using the BBJ fund to pay for them, so all we are doing is giving you back some of your money.

Play a lot? Awesome. Priority seating for you. Let the new guy wait. It ain't costing us a cent.

So I answered your question. Care to answer mine?

I like this room. Good action especially when the BBJ gets big. One critique I have though is the lighting. Way too bright. It makes it feel like you are playing in a shopping mall. Is it possible to dim the lighting a bit and make it a bit more casino-ey? Also the area right outside the poker room seems rather empty and visually unstimulating. Any way to liven it up? Maybe put in a fountain or something. The fake trees and faux wood floors are kind of bland and depressing.

I am a long time (mid 90s) Caesars and Bally's player. All in all good job and I hope the room is a success!

And this is fine, as long as the qualification for belonging to the benefiting group is something that is earned as opposed to dumb luck, such as...

...this. Money is being forced out of people's pockets, and the only way to benefit from this arrangement is getting lucky. And that sucks. This isn't in the same category as the other examples being discussed.

Correct. This isn't socialism, casinos apply a class system. People who qualify for "higher standing" should get better perks. My restaurant example uses the same principle (tier players get seated first, so regular folk have to wait longer), but I'll use a non-casino example. At many airports, "preferred flyers" are able to bypass the line at the security screening station, because they fly frequently. When 1 of these flyers shows up, 1 of the screeners attends to them which pulls that screener off the main line, causing the main line to move slower. They also get to board first, etc. I'm fine with these, they've earned it.

Specifically in regard to jumping the wait list in the poker room, AFAIK Foxwoods doesn't allow it, and I can't comment about any other casino. But they all have tier cards that give some perks that come at the expense of "regular" patrons.

edit: This is all, of course, JMO

CET and 'not' the bbjp funds are picking up the tab for several of the Promotions being offered in April. Specifically, the 'Free-roll' and the rake back "play in April, collect in May" are 100% CET funded.

(As an aside, This should not need to be said, but as we all must concede the omaha players eat too many mushrooms: only bbjp eligible games may win the high hand promotions...How much per hand do the omaha players pay to get their hands on promotional funds?)

For those of you paying attention to details, these developments raise more questions than they answer. To wit, we all know of the generous nature of the CET properties, that being said, who is going to fund the rake back and the free-roll in the future?

At Borgata, the poker room line is about the only one you *can't* jump with a black card. Pretty much anywhere else there's a line, there are two.

Yeah I just got confirmation that Foxwoods doesn't allow it either. I guess Caesars properties are some of the only places that does. I figured casinos treated all lines the same. I guess not.

Taken this "logic" to an extreme, you are probably OK with a casino awarding a pot to a Diamond Card holder with a flush over a non-Diamond card holder with a full house. After all, the Diamond Card holder earned some preferential treatment, right?

Or taking it to not such an extreme, should Diamond card holders get extra time for dinner breaks before they get picked up? Preferential seating apply for broken games? "Ok, we have two seats, and one of you has to wait. Gee, looks like you are the only non-Diamond card here. I guess you wait". OK with that?

How about tournaments? Should Diamond card holders get choice of seats? Tables? Haven't they earned it? Don't you want to cater to them?

Or here is another way to do it. Last time I was out to the Commerce, every floor person knew my name, what games I liked to play, ... all within the first three days I was there. They knew I wasn't a reg, knew they may never see me again, but it doesn't matter, because that is what they are getting paid for.

Of course, I am being kind of silly here. Comparing the finest poker room in this country with a third rate goulash like CET.