you are not correctly stating the criticism. The criticism is that the cash game players are paying an extra dollar for promotion money not paid by Borgata or Taj players and have seen in the past week or so: (1) the free-roll eliminated (equity = $125/month), 2) rake-back reduced by $100 a month, 3) The high hand promotion reduced from $500 to $200. And now we are seeing the cash game players bbjp money being given out to tournament players, by undisputed accounts, over 10K, there is no transparency by management as to where the money is going. The problem is not with the room, the problem is that the bbjp and promotion money appears to be taken away from the cash game players (with the exception of the omaha and stud players) and given to tournament, omaha and stud players, who are not contributing to the bbjp or the promotion funds. Already I have seen a spike in formerly 'loyal' Bally's cash game players playing in other poker rooms in AC. The blowback associated with giving bbjp money to folks who do not contribute to the bbjp is that you are going to start losing cash game players. The exodus of cash game players from CET properties has begun.
By the way, we are talking about an enormous amount of money that is not accounted for. At the Borgata or the Taj I see the bbjp boxes emptied once a day. It is not unusual for me to see the floor have to take away a full box of bbjp and promotion money twice a day at CET properties.
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Originally Posted by TDMarathon86
Disclosure: I am not a CET employee, shareholder, local or reg. I used to frequent CET properties for their wonderful dealers and floor (at Caesars, when it was busy, before Parx/Sands/Chester opened).
I hope the room does well. Fill some seats and pump that BBJ up, force the nits out from under their rocks, who will only then continue to complain about the huge overlays they are getting, are being cut down! Oh the 13k overlay is actually 12k and 1k to dealers?! I shouldn't even have come here! The horror!
I hate when my +ev situation remains +ev but less + than before, but it's still a deal and all you who gripe about it don't really add to the chances of the room succeeding when you post either gossip or harsh critiques of a room, followed by "but I hope it does well." The nits say, "vote with your feet" and then come here to bash away.
Some of you guys crack me up (Dipce's poetic retelling in paragraphs of the loosest kind) and others make me sick (wahh the waitresses wahhhh). Some do both. I'm surprised you're willing to spend a whole dollar on tipping for a drink, assuming you tip (warning, this is money coming right off the table, def -EV GUYS!!), and don't walk down the boards to Peanut World for their $0.79 beverage selection. #nittips
I don't know if I'm mad or sad or what. So many emotions after I just rage-read the whole thread, every subsequent post adding more petrol to the fire which burns inside. I guess poker players are an opinionated lot and my post doesn't lend much credence to the contrary, but do you guys criticize babies or kids when they **** up in their infancy? This room is less than a month old and jumping all over its every misstep won't do much to help your well-wishes come true.
/rant
Last edited by dipce; 03-08-2014 at 05:41 PM.