Yeah, my friend ended up chopping it HU for like $7K+

Ended around 6am.

I don't believe they are allowed.

It's the same group that has been playing around the city for years. The old pink chip game at Harrahs and then they moved to Taj and now here.

I agree that the payout structure could use a revision. Obviously it's easy to say being knocked out in 20th, but even if I had cashed, it's still very top heavy. While an overlay is great for the players, the flip side is that it is a good thing for fewer players. With 78 entries, only 7 get paid. Now if you were to figure the payouts based on minimum entries to meet the guarantee, (around 142), 14 maybe 15 would get paid. Better yet, use the Borgata structure that pays 18 once you hit 90 players. To be 8 hours into a tourney like this and still have only one third of the remaining field getting paid makes it a tough one to go back for time and again. All or most of the players seemed to feel the same way, as they were trying to make a deal at the final 2 tables. Rather than leave it to the players to try and hammer out a deal, why not go ahead and pay those 18 or 20 spots based on the number of players you were hoping to attract? Doesn't have to be a big amount, but something in the $300 range would go a long way in bringing back players who fell a little short. At least you cover your buy in and expenses and aren't empty handed for 8+ hours of play, and the prize money up top is still a huge value for this buy in.

Nothing really new here.. it runs everyday

Disclosure: I am not a CET employee, shareholder, local or reg. I used to frequent CET properties for their wonderful dealers and floor (at Caesars, when it was busy, before Parx/Sands/Chester opened).

I hope the room does well. Fill some seats and pump that BBJ up, force the nits out from under their rocks, who will only then continue to complain about the huge overlays they are getting, are being cut down! Oh the 13k overlay is actually 12k and 1k to dealers?! I shouldn't even have come here! The horror!

I hate when my +ev situation remains +ev but less + than before, but it's still a deal and all you who gripe about it don't really add to the chances of the room succeeding when you post either gossip or harsh critiques of a room, followed by "but I hope it does well." The nits say, "vote with your feet" and then come here to bash away.

Some of you guys crack me up (Dipce's poetic retelling in paragraphs of the loosest kind) and others make me sick (wahh the waitresses wahhhh). Some do both. I'm surprised you're willing to spend a whole dollar on tipping for a drink, assuming you tip (warning, this is money coming right off the table, def -EV GUYS!!), and don't walk down the boards to Peanut World for their $0.79 beverage selection. #nittips

I don't know if I'm mad or sad or what. So many emotions after I just rage-read the whole thread, every subsequent post adding more petrol to the fire which burns inside. I guess poker players are an opinionated lot and my post doesn't lend much credence to the contrary, but do you guys criticize babies or kids when they **** up in their infancy? This room is less than a month old and jumping all over its every misstep won't do much to help your well-wishes come true.
/rant

you are not correctly stating the criticism. The criticism is that the cash game players are paying an extra dollar for promotion money not paid by Borgata or Taj players and have seen in the past week or so: (1) the free-roll eliminated (equity = $125/month), 2) rake-back reduced by $100 a month, 3) The high hand promotion reduced from $500 to $200. And now we are seeing the cash game players bbjp money being given out to tournament players, by undisputed accounts, over 10K, there is no transparency by management as to where the money is going. The problem is not with the room, the problem is that the bbjp and promotion money appears to be taken away from the cash game players (with the exception of the omaha and stud players) and given to tournament, omaha and stud players, who are not contributing to the bbjp or the promotion funds. Already I have seen a spike in formerly 'loyal' Bally's cash game players playing in other poker rooms in AC. The blowback associated with giving bbjp money to folks who do not contribute to the bbjp is that you are going to start losing cash game players. The exodus of cash game players from CET properties has begun.

By the way, we are talking about an enormous amount of money that is not accounted for. At the Borgata or the Taj I see the bbjp boxes emptied once a day. It is not unusual for me to see the floor have to take away a full box of bbjp and promotion money twice a day at CET properties.

A humorous moment from yesterdays 11am tournament. As those of you know who played or have been there, the tables are out in the breezeway area and non poker players walk past from Caesars to the WWW area. My first table was all male and we had a male dealer. Our table was on the edge of the walking area and everyone had to walk past us. At one point a group of about 5 girls walked past who were dressed to impress in short/tight dresses, one of which was pushing very high on the 1-10 scale (especially for being in a poker room). The entire table turned and watched them walk past us, literally everyone turned and looked backwards away from the table. The dealer had a perfect view as they were walking directly away from him. Once the girls are gone we turn back to the table, of course with various poker related statements being made, and look down at the table to see our flop. Our ante's had been dragged and we had an A high flop on the board. At that point it became rather obvious that we hadn't been the only ones checking out the scenery as the dealer had done everything right except deal us cards before putting the flop on the board!

That was probably one of the funniest things I have seen/had happen while I have been playing. The whole table, including dealer, had a good laugh about that.

hahaha

I am sorry i may have overlooked changing the structure to suit the tournament.
I will take a look at it during this week and possibly adjust for next week. Thank you for the input.

Thanks Dan. Like I said, I enjoyed the structure just would have been good to have a dinner break. Hell just 30 mins would be fine to grab something around the corner. The only other suggestion was the payout. Someone posted that you may not be able to do anything about that due to regulations but if you could it would be nice to pay out to 18th or so. Everyone was in agreement once we got down to two tables and had played so long. $300 for those not on the payout sheet worked out good.

Thank you Dan for taking the time to read these forums and actually taking into account player opinions.

Anyone interested in a mixed game (HOE, HOSE) 4/8, 5/10, or 6/12 ?

Yes please!..

I saw the promotions. Is there generous comped rooms over there too even on the weekends? I was reading and heard they treat their poker players right like Borgata. Do they have any games in the 5/10 range or 2/5 with max 1k buyin

What else makes GN so good?

I've been playing roughly 150hrs/month there, I get Sunday-Friday free. Usually stay 3-4 nights a week. They will spread any game. And their 2/5 is 1k max. However it is really hard to get going. It has run 6 times at the most. The only games you will always find here are 1/1, 1/2, and 2/4/6. I've been lobbying for some sort of low stakes mix game but there just isn't enough interest I guess.

The rakeback is far better than CET properties. Their tourney structures are amazing. As well as their high hand promos. Quads or better, $500. Not the BS that CET is pulling with $200 for quads, etc.

Pretty sure there is a golden nugget thread.

the guaranteed tourney was fun

ACDan, what needs to be done to be better &/or to make your room succeed?

(1) you need to build a wall or barrier to keep the walkers away from the tourney tables; you could start by ripping out the huge fake tree that serves absolutely no purpose; this is a distraction and you literally have strange people just standing there right behind you while you play &/or get struck by the plethora of fat &/or stupid people that are walking by near that tree;

(2) you need to talk them into spending the money to build a lower ceiling so that you can have TV's around some of the tables in the tourney area that can actually be watched; however, if you can only get the money for walkway wall/barrier, then forget about this for now;

(3) waitress service is a joke because of how far they have to walk to get the beverages & number of waitresses working; they need to build you a waitress beverage station that is closer to the poker area; i cannot believe that they cannot install/construct one at the closed buffet that is literally right above the poker area; also, don't any young, attractive girls want to be waitresses? you should hire a few and retire some of the current ones

(4) food options are horrible; that wings place is too far away to walk to & get served during the 10-minute breaks & the food served there makes sports stadium food look like the greatest meal on earth; i would seriously rather eat McDonald's compared to what they serve; all you need is to have a small bar built that offers beer, soda, hot dogs, soft pretzels, candy bars; have some CET executives take a quick trip to Delaware Park and Parx and just see what they do with respect to drink & food service; they both have bars right next to the poker room

anyway, you have a chance and it is up to your bosses to give you the money to succeed

A few people have said more people should be paid. This is ridiculous. As long as it's the standard 10% it's fine. And I say this after just bubbling the Sat 7pm.

Also, I FINALLY met Dan!

A few comments about the room/tourney:

It's a nice space. Lots of tables pretty well spread out. I am not convinced, as some people are, that the foot traffic through the area will lead to any new players joining games. Even if they wanted to play, the podium is situated in a location where a casual random is unlikely to see it and walk up to ask about the games. IMO

As has been talked about to death, the cocktail service was attrocious. We either did not see a waitress for over an hour, or we had 3 in the room at the same time arguing about who would be covering which tables.

The floors were absolutely AWOL during the later stages of the tourney. No one was balancing/breaking tables. No one was even announcing blind increases. This would happen sometimes at Showboat too, but at least there, if somebody yelled for the floor, someone would respond. It seemed like the floors at WWW/WSOP kept going into some back room somewhere. And, many times, if we did find someone in the area, they'd just tell us they don't handle tourneys. Someone dedicated to running the tourney absolutely MUST be on the floor and available at all times, particularly for the end game.

I actually heard players complaining that the structure is too slow! When does that ever happen? I happen to disagree, of course. It was suggested by some that the starting stack should be lowered. If a change must be made, I'd probably prefer that (as long as it is nothing too drastic) to removing or shortening levels, but I think it's great as is.

Will play again.

were you there Thursday, as this was the case for the 11AM

4/8 HOSE sounds great. When are you there? I usually can make Fri night, Sat all day and Sun until 2:00.

I'd rather play OE/SE rotation but if including Hold'em gets it going then great!

No, I was talking about yesterday's 7pm $25k.

then it's worse than I thought. I was hoping the issues were because it was midday on a Thursday

anyone know how many runners on all 4 25k guarantees?

Friday had mid to high 70's, Saturday had about 100 for each.