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Originally Posted by beetman
Yes, I've stopped by several times this summer on double comp night and 2-5 didn't go, but based on what I've seen so far I'm not sure I'd want to play 2-5 NL there. I played a little of the baby 1-1 game and a little of the 2-4-6 limit game and in the handful of hours I was there I saw two extremely illogical floor rulings. I've read before that Bally's has weird rules and my play there certainly didn't contradict that:
1) Very drunk guy at 2-4-6 keeps trying to raise preflop by saying "5" and putting out a $5 chip. Dealer says that saying "$5" without saying raise is just a call because there is no such thing as a $5 bet in that game. Someone says oversized raise is usually deemed a regular raise, so she calls floor who confirms that since there's no such thing as a $5 bet in that game, if he doesn't say raise, the oversized chip rule applies and it's a call. During the next down, drunk guy is still saying "$5" and putting out a $5 chip, so new dealer calls floor, and this time, same floorman rules that since he's raising more than required, when he says "$5" and tosses out a $5 chip, it's a raise.
I don't have any sympathy for the drunk who couldn't make things easier by simply saying "raise" after being told multiple times to say "raise" rather than "$5," but a floorman who makes two different rulings on the same issue in the space of 20 minutes, described to him in the exact same manner by each dealer, is flat out incompetent.
2) A unique "Bally's rule." Again at 2-4-6, where the minimum buy-in is $40, guy B comes over to talk to his buddy A, who is playing in the game. A decides to quit and let B have his seat. A gives B the $30 of chips he just took off the table, wanders off, and B takes out $10 in cash and tries to buy in for the $40 minimum. Dealer calls the floor over, and I assume it's to make sure that B isn't jumping the list if there is a list, but no, the issue is that "you aren't allowed to sell chips to another player." So the floor tells B he isn't allowed to play with the other $30 in chips because you can't buy chips from another player, and he needs to come back with $40 in cash. What a completely illogical interpretation of the rule about passing chips, since even if B didn't have $40 in cash, he could simply go to the cashier with the $30 in chips and sell those for the required $30 in cash the floor wanted him to buy-in with rather than A's chips.
At first I thought, who cares, it's just $2-4, in the first case the player's drunkenness caused the problem and in the second case, the player wasn't harmed at all by the ruling, but the total contradiction between the two rulings in 1) and the completely illogical ruling in 2) make me averse to playing a bigger game like $2-5 NL there.
There were some other minor issues with the floor there, and one of the regs told me that they recently had fired all (or most) of the floormen and that there are a lot of problems with the current ones, which is certainly not the type of room where I want to play. At one point, a supervisor was called over about some minor issue and her exact words were "I have no idea, this is my first time up here in 2 years."
I've been playing there once or twice a week since May and to be fair some of them aren't bad, some are sorta indifferent, but yes, some of them act like you're bothering them sometimes. They seem to really not like signing people in for a while. I did seem to see a lot of new faces for the 1st time yesterday.
One kinda funny/sad story from last night.....guy had been sitting at the table for about 2 orbits (20 min) called one of the new guys over and told him the other guy said he'd be right back to take his card, but disappeared. Asked the new guy to sign him in. New guy kinda scolds him and says you have to wait your turn. Wait your turn to sign in? He says yes, there is a list to be signed in. WTF?? Whole table convinces new guy that this player had been here a while now and he seems agitated as he finally takes the card, just as we see the other guy who was supposed to sign him in wander by aimlessly with no intent of doing anything important.
Also asked a couple of people at the desk last week about the $300K promo that's supposedly replacing the 50 hour $50K freeroll. They didn't understand it either. Anyway, looks like you have to play 20 hrs per entry for the next month. Then you have to come back and activate your entries which are printed and active the day after you activate. So no good unless your going to be there for 2 consecutive days. In other words, useless to me.
Also, there was a 2/5 list last night with about 6 players through most of the night, but never got called.
And what is 2/4/6? Does it play more like a 3/6 than a 2/4? I always assumed the game was a normal 2/4.