Now this. this is terrible news, especially if they put it at the race tracks too. i don't know if i can help myself

I went to Monmouth Park for opening day back in May.

They were all set up for sports betting. They were just waiting for the go ahead.

Thank you Gov. Christie.

im 10 minutes from Monmouth Park and i have very few hobbies... im legit worried

Make good bets -or- don't gamble the rent/mortgage money and you should be fine.

I'll be using alot of Sunday night comps.

Trump Plaza should offer sports betting this weekend...what do they have to lose?

Add the Trump Taj to your list.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5789826.html

Any chance of the Unions to make big enough concessions to keep the Taj open?

By filing Bankruptcy for the Holding Company, Trump Entertainment, it allows the holding Company to use the Taj as bargaining chip. It is especially noteworthy that Taj was profitable in this year's second quarter, albeit down markedly from 2013.

With the closing of Revel, Showboat and Trump Plaza, the Taj is in line to get a windfall of new business if it promotes itself. However, by this morning's announcement it is driving patrons away instead.

Aside from arrest and Federal prosecution? Nothing, I guess . . .

They don't have computers set up to take bets, employees trained to run them, professionals in place to run the department, set and adjust the lines, set procedures etc... minimum it will be several weeks before it's all in place and several months before a Vegas style sports book is up and running.

With that said... all wagers allowed in the casino are allowed online in NJ, correct? If so that means you won't need to go to AC to place a bet. That would be awesome!

Anyone seen a bet go up yet at a casino?

Any guesses if the lines at various places will be different??? This h u g e for fall n winter business. Del park just got a tombstone ready for their sunday visitors.

I'd imagine they could use lines from the Las Vegas books they share a parent company with, or some sort of ownership partnership with. Borgata has MGM, Harrahs/Ballys/Caesars has Caesars, Tropicana has the Trop in Vegas, etc...

As far as the computers and all that, I have to think that Christie gave them some heads up that this was in the works, so they may have had the advance notice to be working on that - but who knows?

I don't think these will be allowed online, though. The strategy they are using politically (nullification) is basically that they are removing a law from the books, not actually regulating sports betting. If they were to do it online, they'd give the feds the opportunity to use the Wire Act to come in and stop it pretty easily.

Also, I'm not sure the brick and mortar casinos would WANT to put sports betting online right away - it's sort of a lifeline for AC to draw some people back in, and that's the type of thing that definitely takes a longer time to set up from a technical standpoint.

All that they need to get started is a plane ride and the internet a way.

Does Caesars have a sports betting operation in Vegas? How about Boyd/MGM? Golden Nugget? Tropicana affiliate? Even Resorts has Vegas contacts? They could take their #3's, and a few personnel from Vegas, charter a jet, buy a few computers, upload the Vegas software, set up an internet inner face, take a few positions in the cages spread around the casinos and you can make book. They are taking horse racing bets now, aren't they?

If you have trouble doing that, Vinny and the boys would be willing to help.

In regards to internet sports betting for NJ, it defeats the number 1 purpose of the state - drive bodies to AC and the racetracks.

Unfortunately, the risk involved for the established AC casinos is a lot. It still has to be tested in the Court System. Lesniak, the state senator pushing hard, seems to think Super Bowl weekend in February would be a good time. Get your reservations now, he said.

I don't know if this was discussed in the past.. but IMO Atlantic City could save itself if it got rid of the Electronic Slot machines and reverted back to the old coin slots. The fun with the slots is carrying around a bucket of Quarters. I've been to AC Slots are dead. Slots are where the money is for the casinos.

With the current ticket system no one sees anyone else winning. Before everyone had fun watching people fill up the coin tray and buckets. I would even play Slots just recreationally for fun if coins came back.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-...--finance.html

What a sleazy way to crush the Union, Trump Entertainment. Take away health insurance AND Pensions? The Union Prez has it right to refuse the offer especially if a year later they would close any way.

Hate to see all those jobs go down the toilet, but employees would probably be better off seeking employment elsewhere if that is how the Company that pays their checks feels this way. Regardless of what happens, the employees should be jumping ship as quickly as they can get another job.

Urgent, don't have time to type much but wanted to get this out as quickly as possible: A friend of mine had a significant amount of $ stolen from his hotel room at the Borgata this afternoon. Secure your valuables ASAP and don't trust hotel staff here to not go through your ****.

This isn't about crushing unions. It's about grasping at straws.

Exactly right.

No, the unions are just bleeding out what they can while they can. In this case I don't blame them for refusing as Taj is going down either way.

I don't want to get overly political about it, and I'm not necessarily an anti-union guy, but imo unions were a big part of why Atlantic City failed. It's a fairly nasty environment in that area when you're dealing with shops. Locally you try to avoid them even when you want to bring a plumber to your house, because they're so bad and overpriced. Call one to do something simple and you're liable to pay $180/hour for two mediocre dudes, where you could pay $95 for an established open shop guy who will knock the job out in half the time.

My first encounter with them was as a teenager on a summer job. Was helping lay carpet in one of the AC schools with an open shop company, and they had union goons harassing and threatening us. The summer job kids' job was basically to take turns watching the truck as they would do all kinds of nonsense otherwise.

As to the casinos, I just lol'd. Lots of mouthpieces in those houses with a deluded view of themselves and the situation they're in. The first rule of negotiation is you need to have some kind of leverage, and casino employees there don't have any left at all.

When I worked in one I'd come in from the outside and just did it part time, but to hear the dealers who were reps they were just angry and completely clueless. I had it out with a couple of them from Caesars where the toke rate was relatively high, in the $25+/hour range at the time IIRC, with maybe another $6 base for experienced people, and they just didn't know how good they had it. Had they just kept their union dues they'd have been so much better off. They seem intent on completely killing what's left of their Golden Goose.

No chance of this and there's demonstrably more money spent in the current system (far more). It also reduces other costs, machine downtime, many slot attendant jobs. The old coin system had it's charm though, I agree. But when penny slots can be $3 or more max play it's not practical anymore. A really hot progressive game can take in $30k in a day! You're not going to get there with coins.

You can still find a few here and there but they're more a novelty.

Good post and good stories. Thanks for the insight.

If you're a Black Card holder at any of the Trump properties or were a Black Card holder from either Revel or Showboat, the Resorts has an ongoing promotion where they'll upgrade you to their Black card status(Paramount Card) and here are some of the perks:

*$100 comp to use in any of their sit-down restaurants (excludes food court)

*Free valet parking

*Your choose of either $25 Slot play or $50 Match Play on any of the table games

* Complimentary manicure at their salon

And lots more.

So, even if you can't play poker there, the perks are well worth the trip; Gallagher's Steak house and their burger bar(adjacent to) are really good btw.

Wheels are turning in AC.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-0...ed-casino.html

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2014/...2791410375311/

Borgata has some of the worst poker staff on the planet. I can't see them keeping their action much longer with such a badly run room and the proliferation of other poker venues, i.e. Philly, Delaware, Maryland, Foxwoods and upcoming New York and Boston.

Hey all. I know someone that wants to go to AC with their friends on a saturday a bit from now. From what i see online, basically they going to have to pay $300 plus for a hotel room for that night no matter what right if they want to stay near the casinos?


When i use to go to AC, i would have comped rooms at taj or borgata but i no longer go there anymore. Or i stay at resorts/harrahs and pay for a room but it was always less than $100 or so.


Does anyone know how the bus fares from NYC to AC is like? Back then i use to ride the chinese bus from chinatown to ac. I think it cost like $27 total, $25 plus $2 tip. And in return i got a $20 matchplay and $20 slot machine coupon. But before that with my total rewards card it was only $17 total. The person would swipe my card then tell me if i pay $15 or $25 for the card. Is this still the same?


The thing is last few times i did go to AC, i took the academy bus and i purchased tickets on megabus.com where i believe i paid $37 and less each time. I think you could pay much lesser if you book way ahead of time and go on a weekday. I also remember i got a $25 slot voucher only but i prefered it b/c it was convenient b/c i could go to the AC terminal in times square anytime.


Can someone who have went to AC recently from NYC to AC by bus tell me how the fares are like now as its been a long time since i went there whether taking Chinese bus or academy? The only thing i remember was i told by myself i rather take greyhound as oppose to academy b/c there were times when you had to wait on line for the bus if there were many ppl so you couldnt just go to the bus terminal say 15 minutes before it departed and get a seat. However, i did went on holiday though. Such as too much ppl on bus i had to wait for another one at another casino and usually had to be there 30 minutes before at least.


Also, I remember many years ago i rode a chinese bus and they gave us not only 2 matchplay coupons, they even gave us like a free meal at tropicana at the noodle bar. I assume they no longer do that now with any of the chinese buses? I also recalled the bus i mainly rode to AC with, with the Chinese Bus was the one that went to caesars/ballys mainly b/c there was one every hour it seemed. I think they stopped the bus like at 3pm or so, then another one like 6:30pm etc. The reason i took this Chinese bus as oppose to the ones that went to resorts or tropicana was b/c those buses only go 1 or 2 times a day so when i want to come back in a few days, if that bus is full... i could no longer take the bus.


From what i check online, Academy bus is $40 for that saturday, greyhound is $44 but i believe theres another small fee so basically $45 or so.

you're correct on all fronts. the rooms might go down a bit the more into the the cold season you go but saturdays are always expensive. try expedia to get a feel for which ones will be cheaper. tropicana is usually on the lower end of casino hotels. the chelsea next door is decent for a little less and has a trendy bar. i usually stay on the rt 30 in galloway. 10 minute drive, $20-30 cab ride.

your bus prices are correct but the line situation has reversed. 40 for academy. 46 for greyhound. greyhound lines for buses are extremely long on weekends so show up to the gate about 45 minutes early. academy a little less long but they can still get full. grey hound runs more frequently and throughout the night and the buses all have bathrooms and most have wifi (the but wifi is slow slow it's not worth using). i'll sometimes go to the greyhound gate and see if the line is short enough that i'll be able to get on the next bus. if the line is too long i'll go over to academy.

both academy and greyhound get the same promos. usually $25 in slot play.

i hear the chinatown buses still give better promos and are cheaper but i haven't taken them.