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07-29-2014 , 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by rolledup222
Which one is Saturday?
Lady Antebellum.

http://www.atlanticcitynj.com/events...s.aspx?id=3540
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07-30-2014 , 10:37 AM
Can you believe the Mayor of Atlantic City? Six (6) potential bidders for Revel?

http://www.northjersey.com/news/atla...sino-1.1055952

What Company is going to pony up for The White Elephant? At what price?

Guess we will find out next Wednesday, August 6th if the Bankruptcy Court stays with the plan.

Rumors that the Seminole Tribe, the owners of the Hard Rock Hotels and Casinos, still is showing interest. But, the price has to be right. Expect a low-ball bid.

Another bidder could be Caesars. Yes, the Caesars that is closing The Showboat down the Boardwalk. Trading up??????? Trying to save face? Caesars flushes 2,000+ employees to takeover the 3,000+ Revel employees, and then will tell AC that they are "saving jobs"?

A potential buyer for The Showboat - Amaya? What's another few million tacked on to the Rational (PokerStars/FullTilt) acquisition.
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07-30-2014 , 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by PALLADINN
Can you believe the Mayor of Atlantic City? Six (6) potential bidders for Revel?

http://www.northjersey.com/news/atla...sino-1.1055952

What Company is going to pony up for The White Elephant? At what price?

Guess we will find out next Wednesday, August 6th if the Bankruptcy Court stays with the plan.

Rumors that the Seminole Tribe, the owners of the Hard Rock Hotels and Casinos, still is showing interest. But, the price has to be right. Expect a low-ball bid.

Another bidder could be Caesars. Yes, the Caesars that is closing The Showboat down the Boardwalk. Trading up??????? Trying to save face? Caesars flushes 2,000+ employees to takeover the 3,000+ Revel employees, and then will tell AC that they are "saving jobs"?

A potential buyer for The Showboat - Amaya? What's another few million tacked on to the Rational (PokerStars/FullTilt) acquisition.
Someone I trust told me Steve Wynn has been looking at Revel and is another possible interested bidder.
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07-30-2014 , 09:29 PM
Gotta love this one.

http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/n...a4bcf887a.html

According to this the bids are due on Monday, August 4 and "An auction is set for Aug. 7 in the event there is more than one qualified bidder."

Another interesting quote - "John Cunningham, an attorney for Revel, said the names of the managers who stand to receive bonuses should be sealed “to protect employees’ morale, particularly for those not included in the … plan.”

So, the day of reckoning will be next Thursday?
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07-30-2014 , 10:01 PM
If you live in Atlantic City, all we can do is empathize with them. Not only are they getting pink slips from the casinos, they are getting a tremendous tax increase because of the DECREASE in the Casinos property value. Therefore, the casinos are paying less to the city and the residents have to foot the bill.

http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/n...9bb2963f4.html

And...... one of the solutions is to make a huge cut in the city's Public Safety. Can you imagine AC with 330 fewer cops and 260 less firemen? New Jersey will have to call in the National Guard to give the visitors any sense of security.

Could you imagine the havoc that could occur? Picture the crowd control needed for tomorrow and Saturday's beach concerts - 60,000+.
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07-31-2014 , 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by PALLADINN
And...... one of the solutions is to make a huge cut in the city's Public Safety. Can you imagine AC with 330 fewer cops and 260 less firemen? New Jersey will have to call in the National Guard to give the visitors any sense of security.

Could you imagine the havoc that could occur? Picture the crowd control needed for tomorrow and Saturday's beach concerts - 60,000+.
I don't think anyone is talking about laying off the entire police and fire departments.

I do feel for the residents who now have to shoulder the tax burden but keep in mind that it was the residents, not the casinos, who voted in the corrupt politicians in years past who squandered and stole the tax funds that the casinos were paying.
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07-31-2014 , 09:11 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but the property tax increase is 47 cents per $100 of value? So if the median property value is 136K (just from a quick Google), the increase is $639?

I understand that it represents a significant amount of money to people who are working multiple jobs and living paycheck to paycheck, but the whole "I have to get a third job now," or "I'm totally ruined," type quotes are way over the top. What they SHOULD do, though, is increase the tax more on people who don't reside in AC full-time, and less on those who do who's home is worth under, say, 150K.

But I don't want to derail this too much into politics and taxes... The bigger concern for the city overall is the lost jobs - that's going to have a much bigger impact on future tax revenue and people's ability to get by. The impact this could have on the rest of AC's future viability as a resort town is scary - so lets all hope Revel gets bought and run well.
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08-02-2014 , 03:41 PM
Sad and scary situation developing in AC. The tax base issues and public safety issues are bad enough but the loss of property values for all and the large drop in economic activity are tragic.

I wonder how many AC residents work directly for casinos and which areas outside of AC will be affected the most.
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08-03-2014 , 05:28 AM
For people who take the bus to AC from NY:

What's the pro move in terms of times to take back to the city (referring to academy)? Got turned down today because bus was too full at 1230. Played at ballys until 345, went to terminal, got turned away at 430 because bus was too full.

Is this a standard thing for academy?
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08-03-2014 , 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyLikeABird
For people who take the bus to AC from NY:

What's the pro move in terms of times to take back to the city (referring to academy)? Got turned down today because bus was too full at 1230. Played at ballys until 345, went to terminal, got turned away at 430 because bus was too full.

Is this a standard thing for academy?
Pro move is actually taking the Chinatown bus if you are from downtown. 17-25 bucks rt. If price isn't an issue. Grayhound buses leave every half hour out of terminal .
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08-03-2014 , 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mdroz247
It doesn't have to be beachfront. It doesn't even have to be in AC. I would imagine the surrounding more inland areas are going to be less expensive.

I would prefer something furnished with a kitchen. I should have been slightly more specific in my OP.
Look at vrbo.com or sites like that for a place in brigantine. SHould be able to get something fairly affordable.
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08-04-2014 , 10:42 AM
pro move is look at the schedule and see which casino the bus hits first (always go to 2 casinos) then go to that casino a little early and get in line.
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08-04-2014 , 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyLikeABird
For people who take the bus to AC from NY:

What's the pro move in terms of times to take back to the city (referring to academy)? Got turned down today because bus was too full at 1230. Played at ballys until 345, went to terminal, got turned away at 430 because bus was too full.

Is this a standard thing for academy?
At prime times, yes, half an hour isn't enough ahead of the departure to arrive.

In my experience, Academy makes an effort to accommodate before the next bus if one fills up. I've been at Port Authority several times where they brought in an extra, and a couple times returning. I think one return was an extra bus and one they had the next departure pick up the leftover people before going to its scheduled spot.
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08-04-2014 , 12:18 PM
Yes that was my experience with Academy in past times. This time both drivers basically told us we were SOL which was a bummer.

Went and dumped 400$ at the WSOP 2/5 that wouldn't have happened if I had made that 1230 bus!
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08-04-2014 , 05:41 PM
This week should bring an end to the fate of Revel. Today was the day that bids for the Casino/Resort were to be submitted to Judge Gloria M. Burns, the Chief US Bankruptcy Judge.

If more there was more than one qualified bid there is supposed to be an auction on Thursday. NBC 10 in Philly is reporting that the Hard Rock group is not in the running.

However, it was implied that the Hard Rock is interested in The Showboat.

Any news?
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08-05-2014 , 07:15 AM
I just spent some time searching the news. Haven't seen anything on actual offers. Or lack of offers.

Lee
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08-05-2014 , 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Lovesantiques
I just spent some time searching thenews. Haven't seen anything on actual offers. Or lack of offers.

Lee
Here is the roadmap of what a bidder for the Revel had to do. 79 Pages of lawyer language. Have no idea why it is generating so little news interest. My bolds.

https://www.revelcaseinfo.com/KeyDoc...px?Document=32

CLIFFS:
PART ONE COMPLETED:

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b. Qualified Bids. Each bidder shall, on or before August 4, 2014 (the “Bid Deadline”), deliver to the Debtors: (a) a cash deposit of 10% of the purchase price (the “Deposit”), (b) reasonable proof acceptable to the Debtors, in consultation with the Consultation Parties, of the bidder’s ability to consummate a purchase of the Purchased Assets and assumption of the Assumed Liabilities, including copies of such bidder’s annual, quarterly and monthly financial statements for the most recently ended fiscal periods, certified to be true, correct and complete in all material respects, or if the bidder is an entity formed for the purpose of acquiring the Purchased Assets, the aforementioned financial statements for the equity holder(s) of the bidder, and evidence of sufficient financing, (c) reasonable proof acceptable to the Debtors, in consultation with the Consultation Parties, of whether the bidder will require a casino license, and, if so, disclosure as to whether (i) the bidder ever applied for a casino license in New Jersey or another jurisdiction and been denied or subsequently withdrew the application, (ii) the bidder currently holds a casino license in New Jersey or another jurisdiction, (iii) the bidder ever admitted to any violation or settled with the New Jersey Casino Control Commission (“NJCCC”), the New Jersey Division of Gaming Enforcement, or any other gaming investigatory or licensing entity or Federal Government, and (iv) there are any other reasons why the bidder believes that it may not obtain interim authorization from the NJCCC and ........... QUOTE]
c. Qualified Bidders. The Debtors shall determine, in consultation with the Consultation Parties, whether a bid, including any credit bid by any secured creditor, qualifies as a Qualified Bid. Only those persons who have submitted a Qualified Bid in compliance with this Bid Procedures Order shall be a “Qualified Bidder.” If a bid submitted on or before the Bid Deadline fails to meet all the requirements of a Qualified Bid, the Debtors are entitled to work with such bidder in an effort to cure any defects in the bid and to cause such bid to become a Qualified Bid, in consultation with the Consultation Parties, prior to the commencement of the Auction. Notwithstanding anything to the contrary contained herein but subject to the terms and conditions set forth in the DIP Loan Documents, the DIP Agent and the Prepetition First Lien Agent shall be deemed to be Qualified Bidders for purposes of proposing any credit bid(s) and participating in any auction, without the need for compliance with any of the requirements contained in section 3(b) above; provided, however, that any such credit bid shall only qualify as a Qualified Bid if so determined by the Debtors, in consultation with the Consultation Parties. If the DIP Agent and/or the Prepetition First Lien Agent intends to submit a credit bid, such party or parties must declare its intention to do so and submit the credit bid prior to the commencement of the Auction. In the event the DIP Agent and/or the Prepetition First Lien Agent declares its intention to submit a credit bid, its status as a Consultation Party shall be terminated at that time.
PART TWO - THURSDAY

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e. The Auction. In the event the Debtors receive more than one Qualified Bid, an Auction shall commence at 9:00 a.m. (prevailing Eastern Time) on August 7, 2014. Each Qualified Bidder shall be invited to attend the Auction at the office of Debtors’ counsel, White & Case LLP, 1155 Avenue of the Americas, New York, New York 10036, which Auction must be attended in person. The Consultation Parties and their advisors shall be able to attend the Auction in person. The Purchased Assets shall be sold free and clear of all liens, claims and encumbrances to the fullest extent allowed under section 363(f) of the Bankruptcy Code. The following rules shall govern the Auction:
i. Subject to the limitations set forth in these Bid Procedures, the opening price at such Auction shall be the highest and/or best offer of a Qualified Bidder selected, in consultation with the Consultation Parties, and announced by the Debtors.
ii. Only Qualified Bidders may bid at the Auction. If multiple Qualified Bids are received, each Qualified Bidder shall have the right to continue to improve its Qualified Bid at the Auction.
iii. Each subsequent overbid must provide an incremental amount of at least $1,000,000.00 of value to the Debtors, or such other amount as designated by the Debtors from time to time, in consultation with the Consultation Parties.
iv. At the conclusion of the Auction and subject to Court approval following the Auction, the Debtors, in consultation with the Consultation Parties, shall announce the highest or otherwise best bid for the Purchased Assets (the “Successful Bidder”) and the backup bidder (the “Backup Bidder”).
v. The Auction may be adjourned by the Debtors, in consultation with the Consultation Parties, from time to time without further notice other than an announcement of such adjournment by the Debtors at the Auction.
vi. All parties’ rights under section 363(k) of the Bankruptcy Code are preserved. In the event a valid credit bid (subject to and in accordance with section 363(k) of the Bankruptcy Code) is received for the Purchased Assets, it shall be deemed in all respects to be equal in value to an all-cash bid in an amount equal to the face value of such credit bid on a dollar-for-dollar basis.
f. Successful Bidder. The Debtors may base the selection of the Successful Bidder and Backup Bidder on the following factors, among others: purchase price; liabilities assumed in the bid; the ability to obtain necessary licenses, and the markup of the Agreement submitted with the bid. The Debtors may, in consultation with the Consultation Parties, (a) reject any bid that is (i) inadequate or insufficient, (ii) not in conformity with the requirements of the Bankruptcy Code, the Bid Procedures or the terms and conditions of sale or (iii) contrary to the best interests of Sellers, their estates and creditors and/or (b) refuse to consider any bid that fails to comply with the Bid Procedures. After the determination of the Successful Bidder, the Debtors shall promptly execute the asset purchase agreement previously executed and submitted by such Successful Bidder, together with any changes thereto necessitated by the parties’ actions at the Auction.

PART THREE - FRIDAY

4. The Sale Hearing shall be held on August 8, 2014 at 10:00 a.m. (prevailing Eastern Time), or as soon thereafter as counsel may be heard, before the Honorable Gloria M. Burns, United States Bankruptcy Judge, in the United States Bankruptcy Court for the District of New Jersey, 401 Market Street, Second Floor, Camden, New Jersey 08101. At the Sale Hearing, the Debtors will seek entry of the Sale Order. The Sale Hearing may be adjourned from time to time without further notice other than an announcement by the Debtors in Court on the date scheduled for the Sale Hearing. Notwithstanding anything herein or in the Motion to the contrary, the Debtors may elect to seek to consummate all or part of the Sale in connection with and pursuant to a chapter 11 plan in these Chapter 11 Cases.
PART 4 SOON AFTER

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5. The form of Sale Notice and the form of Publication Notice are hereby approved. The Debtors shall (a) serve within two (2) business days (by first class mail, postage prepaid) after entry of this Bid Procedures Order (the “Mailing Deadline”), the Sale Notice upon the Service Parties and (b) on the Mailing Deadline, or as soon as practicable thereafter, submit for publication the Publication Notice in the New York Times (National Edition) and the Press of Atlantic City and on the website of the Debtors’ claims and noticing agent, AlixPartners, LLP, www.revelcaseinfo.com.
And after all that, NO NEWS LEAKED, yet.
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08-06-2014 , 08:15 PM
Revel Update: Auction on Tuesday!
http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/n...9bb2963f4.html


Trump sues to get his name off the Casinos.:
http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/b...9bb2963f4.html
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08-06-2014 , 08:25 PM
Thought the headline was misleading. As I understand it, the auction is scheduled for tomorrow morning. However, that's only if there is more than one qualified bidder. No word yet on if there have been any. Guess we'll see in the next 1/2 day or so.
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08-06-2014 , 08:31 PM
No word at all. Writer at Press of Atlantic City should have inside track because they will get the public notice first along with NY Times. His reporting is weak at best.

White & Case, LLP - no comment on tomorrow.

Even called the Bankruptcy court to see if the public can attend the Friday decision. No Response.
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08-07-2014 , 12:22 AM
So I am looking to buy property right in Atlantic city. What is the pro move ? Do I wait till this settles and homeowners get their property tax bill , which I am thinking will be a big jump ? I don't think revel is just going to waste. Someone will make a bid. Its just a matter of will the debt holders take a quarter on the dollar. Or do I buy in the next month or so , while its still not fully clear and some sellers might start panicking ?
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08-07-2014 , 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by MyrnaFTW
So I am looking to buy property right in Atlantic city. What is the pro move ? Do I wait till this settles and homeowners get their property tax bill , which I am thinking will be a big jump ? I don't think revel is just going to waste. Someone will make a bid. Its just a matter of will the debt holders take a quarter on the dollar. Or do I buy in the next month or so , while its still not fully clear and some sellers might start panicking ?
The "pro move" absolutely, positively, has to be asking questions like this of a bunch of poker players instead of real estate professionals.

The "pro move" wouldn't possibly - in any way, shape, or form - be doing serious research into real estate trends, or marketing trends, or looking at the actual unemployment rate or real estate tax amounts or anything else of real importance.

And, most certainly, the "pro move" wouldn't involve any comparison to nearby areas such as Brigantine, Ventnor, and other nearby towns/villages. After all, the "pro move" is to decide to move into a city first, and then look at how the finances play out.....

Hmmmm, maybe not so much, eh?

Maybe the real pro move is to do some serious research and not ask a bunch of internet browsing poker players who may or may not have any useful knowledge on the subject, but are always happy to give their opinions irrespective of having or not having such knowledge.......

Lee
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08-07-2014 , 09:18 AM
I don't get it, if you making such a big move to buy Revel, you better be prepared. If you need week more to catch up, you are not serious.
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08-07-2014 , 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Lovesantiques
The "pro move" absolutely, positively, has to be asking questions like this of a bunch of poker players instead of real estate professionals.

The "pro move" wouldn't possibly - in any way, shape, or form - be doing serious research into real estate trends, or marketing trends, or looking at the actual unemployment rate or real estate tax amounts or anything else of real importance.

And, most certainly, the "pro move" wouldn't involve any comparison to nearby areas such as Brigantine, Ventnor, and other nearby towns/villages. After all, the "pro move" is to decide to move into a city first, and then look at how the finances play out.....

Hmmmm, maybe not so much, eh?

Maybe the real pro move is to do some serious research and not ask a bunch of internet browsing poker players who may or may not have any useful knowledge on the subject, but are always happy to give their opinions irrespective of having or not having such knowledge.......

Lee
Bro. Calm down. I am just asking for opinions. I weigh all opinion to come to a conclusion. I know what the avg property tax bill in that city is. I know the current trend in unemployment , I was just asking on a timing basis.
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08-07-2014 , 09:33 AM
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Bro. Calm down. I am just asking for opinions. I weigh all opinion to come to a conclusion. I know what the avg property tax bill in that city is. I know the current trend in unemployment , I was just asking on a timing basis.
Like any decision, is the risk worth the reward? And as any poker player knows - "it depends".
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