anyone been to a show at mixx? above and beyond is playing there next wkend and looks sick. how's the club in general?

how much are drinks there? is best bet just to get really hammered beforehand?

The cracked aces promo is for all Caesars properties. 6am-12 midnight, Tuesdays and Thursdays. First 10 crackes aces or 12 midnight. Must have 2 aces in the hole and lose the pot in a showdown. $100 cash. Funding for the promo comes from BBJ pool. How awfully generous of Caesars.

Why the sarcasm? Seems like an agreeable promotion.

I wouldn't pay much attention to Kvitlekh; he's a serial complainer.

Aces cracked is a good promotion. I personally feel that the more likely a promotion is to get money back into the hands of players is good. Any given player is so unlikely to hit the bigger portions of the BBJ that it's useless compared to aces cracked, freerolls, etc.

I know pretty much everything that goes on in AC. Yet I rarely respond to people posting here looking for answers. Now you know why. As soon as I sincerely respond to a post I get flamed and trolled - by a mod no less.

And yes, I understand that promotions such as aces cracked return money to players faster than through the BBJ. My point is that most people don't realize how Caesars is attempting to pass itself off as a great friend of poker players when in fact they treat players like **** and simply rob the public blind. Complete and utter mind control.

Do you have any facts to back this up? Sounds to me like the rantings of a conspiracy theorist or lunatic.

What do you think CET is doing that could be categorized as "rob[bing] the public blind" and asserting "mind control" over its customers?

Whenever they offer a promotion, it is almost impossible to get anybody at Caesars to give you any details. Certainly nothing in writing. Although Borgata has its own problems, they always have something in print with very clear rules about how their promos work. If you have questions or concerns, they actually address them.

With Caesars, forget it. You will get rerouted to other departments so many times you will be more than willing to forgo whatever they were offering you. For example, there will be a shopping spree at Bally's in Oct. I bet no one has even heard of it. I had to call 3 different CET properties and get rerouted 100 times before a VIP host finally revealed to me that she couldn't disclose any details because HER superiors didn't provide her with any. Why not? To force customers to show up at this stupid shopping spree. That's not mind control?

How about most of the floor people at CET in AC? Absolutely clueless about poker, zero customer service skills, and even downright rude and nasty. Hey, I'm not good with people but I don't make 50k a year talking to customers every day. It's a ****ing labyrinth trying to determine who the **** is the supreme poker manager of all 4 properties. It's like trying to get the president's contact info.

Rewards credits, tier credits - greatest mystery of all time. Try getting anybody at CET to tell you how many tier credits are earned at various stakes of poker - **** that, you have to arduously check and calculate the hours you play, tally it up, divide to get a rough estimate.

And the customer service reps on the phone - what a ****ing joke. Multi-billion dollar company can't pay people who are fluent in English. I absolutely dread it when for some reason I must call them.

And who the **** knows what they're doing with the bad beat money. Redistributing it at will, with a tiny percentage actually going towards the real purpose. Why do they even call it a BBJ? It's BBJ, freerolls that no one even knows about, random giveaways to draw people into their poker rooms. Wasn't that why the BBJ was originally introduced?

They don't understand that the reason they don't have a solid player base is not because of promos and other gimmicks. It's for all the reasons mentioned above. If you treat enough people like **** for long enough, eventually even the densest will resent you.

And forget about getting an educated and logical ruling in a poker game when your money is at stake. And as far as seeing the rule book? You might as well ask for open access to the pentagon.

i don't have the disdain towards cet poker rooms that Kvitlekh does, but i was pretty annoyed when caesars started funding other promotions with bbj money and trying to hide it. i actually prefer cracked aces, high hands, etc, etc. but the fact that they didn't tell their players they were taking the money out of the jackpot drops and then actually instructing their employees to hide this information was pretty shady.

if they just said they were doing it, they probably would have gotten more positive reactions than negative.

to be fair, i should note that my assertions above are all from second hand info... but it was from numerous sources all knowing dealers that were told to hide the info before dan at showboat finally made it known publicly.

also note, i think dan at showboat is a good manager and can see his efforts to running a better room. and i have no problem playing at any of the poker rooms in ac if the games are good.

Maybe true if all players had equal opportunity to both contribute to and win the promotions. As it is structured today the Aces Cracked promotion takes money from weekend and night players and redistributes it to the early morning players. And it usually goes to the 2-4 LHE players who stand to gain more by slowplaying their aces than do the NL players.

Hitting the BBJ is not impacted by time of day, so there are no robbing Peter to pay Paul issues if the money is kept there.

Agree with your sentiments even though we disagree on the promotions.

Very much agree with this.

Personally I hate cracked aces promotions because they change the play of the game, people try to get their aces cracked in lower limit games.

It would seem the optimal strategy at $2/4 would be to limp with AA and check-call every round, since most $2/4 pots aren't getting to $100 anyway. But, if you actually hit your hand, you'd be losing value.

Then again, maybe you go guns a-blazing because you're almost freerolling.

think about all the bets you'd lose screwing around, for the 15% chance you'd win $100.


Funding advertising and other promos out of a BBJ stinks. It's no longer a BBJ it's like a promo pay slush fund. I'm sure the next thing will be how they are getting around returning all of it to the players.

I sincerely agree that the aces cracked promotion is for lower limit players, in fact, it is a limit promotion. Any no limit player who knowingly tries to get their aces cracked while risking more than the $100 they will get back is certainly not playing smart poker. And this promotion does change the game as many people play for the promotion only and will buy-in at the minimum only hoping to get aces cracked.

I would rather see the money go toward active promotions like the freerolls that have been discontinued as of this month, as they reward loyal players and give them a greater chance at getting back some of their contributions. There are certainly other promotions they could offer, like the cash giveaways that are better suited. IMO, the monies for the Monday football drawings and the hot seat drawings currently held could go toward better promotions that reward all players equally.

As far as time of day, many promotions are structured to bring in players at slow times. While this will probably continue, promotions should have set time limits to allow all players an equal chance to play for them. Many times I have seen players call around and then travel to each of the four properties chasing the aces cracked promotion until it is done, and its amazing to see how many players will simply cash out once they find out the last one has hit.
Advertising should promote promotions with set time limits and let players know when they will be elegible.

As a 1/2 no limit player, I would NEVER try to get my aces cracked for $100. It is however a nice insurance policy.

A $2/4 LHE pot will rarely get to $100. If you limp and get the standard 6 or so callers, there is more than a 15% chance that your AA will lose. So, to me, the most money in the long run would be made trying to get them beaten.

And I would never advocate playing this way in $1/2 NL. You will either give up money you could have won, or called down bets and risk losing more than $100.

it will still change strategy in 1/2 NL even if you're smart. you'll still try to win with them and narrow the field preflop... but you won't fold them post flop even when you're pretty sure you're beat... you now have insurance. either way i think it's fun.

I think the Aces cracked promo does favor the 2/4 players cause the pots are smaller and its harder to get it up there so therefore more plus EV. I wouldn't play for it in NL but I would at 2/4. The thing that irks me is the lack of good dealers at Showboat. These hotties ha e their tits hanging out but can't deal to save their life. Some of them suck.

I have a question about the Caesars properties. Do all the poker rooms have poker rates if you stay in the hotel? What are the requirements and what are the rates that they offer? I am going to make some reservations but I may stay depending on what kind of rates I can get there after I have played there some. If I get a more favorable rate, even though they are pretty low to begin with for the most part.

They used to. Not sure if they do anymore or they just tie it into the casino comp system like the Borgata does.

I know with certainty that the properties do offer poker rates. I'm not sure as to what they currently are, as of season rates are beginning to apply and I have not used one in quite a while. Usually, playing 5-6 hours of 1/2 is enough to qualify, but you may want to check with the floor person prior to play. Caesars is the most difficult property to get a poker rate, and they tend to be the highest rated room property. Poker room rates are subject to availability and tend to be easiest to come by during the week. Lately, I have spoken to players that have stated that weekend poker rates were hard to come by.

You should check online to see if you currently qualify for rated/comp rooms by signing in to the website and using your players card number. https://www.totalrewards.com/MyTr.do
Once you've booked a room, there is little chance they will change it to a poker rate. Those rates are usually reserved for players who have not yet booked a room and are interested in staying over or extending a stay without a booked room. Good luck.

I'm a poker player from CT considering moving near AC, specifically Brigantine, to play full-time at Borgata.

I'm 22 and was wondering if anyone has apartment recommendations?

Why is Borgata FT better than Foxwoods?

I live 90mins away from Foxwoods so it's not like its down the road...

Why wouldn't you just play FT at Foxwoods, very similar action to Borgata.