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08-14-2018 , 05:02 PM
Hi all, I'll be in Williams AZ for a Grand Canyon tour with the family next week. Obviously seems like Casino Arizona is the place to go in the state, but I'm hoping to sneak out at night and probably won't be able to make a 2+hour drive one way. Any card rooms within a 30 min drive of Williams?
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08-14-2018 , 06:34 PM
I think Camp Verde is the closest place that has poker tables, and is likely a 1-2 table room. Cliff Castle Casino is the name. If you look on Bravo, the 'poker room' is called 'Club 52 Poker Room'.

Prescott has a room as well, Bucky's Casino, but again, 1-2 tables is all you can expect if any at all. About a 1.5 hour drive.

Flagstaff has a nice casino (Twin Arrows), but their poker room didn't make it and has been closed for 2+ years. That is a little over an hour drive.

Laughlin actually looks closer than Casino Arizona from Williams.

And if you happen to get the urge to go to Casino AZ, please check the thread here first. They had issues from a storm on Friday night (8/10) and the planned re-opening is currently Sunday 8/19, but that could always be delayed.
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08-14-2018 , 10:35 PM
Thanks for the info, will check those out. Chances are I won't get to any of them, but wanted to line up options just in case.
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08-15-2018 , 01:11 PM
If you're considering Laughlin, it's so much better to just go to Vegas.
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10-05-2018 , 10:02 PM
coming to phoenix this weekend .. Which casino should I play 3-300 in ??
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10-07-2018 , 01:10 AM
Talking Stick, there are very many tables on the weekends.
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01-28-2019 , 11:43 AM
Hey. Going on a trip soon to this area. Whats the best casino for someone looking to play some low stakes NL cash games?

Thanks.
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01-28-2019 , 12:19 PM
For low stakes, both Gila River and Talking Stick are fine, go to whichever is closer.

Gila has the smallest games.
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01-28-2019 , 01:17 PM
^Thanks
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01-28-2019 , 02:20 PM
Insert obligatory "There is no NL in Arizona it is all Spread limit" comment here.
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01-28-2019 , 03:22 PM
^Ughh. Just looked up what spread limit is. Stupid. So in general, bluffing w/ draws less effective in bloated preflop scenarios? Barreling less effective in 3! bets? On so on.
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01-31-2019 , 12:37 PM
Is there a rundown somewhere of the structure of how to play spread limit?
Looking to give the Omaha a go this weekend and have never played SL.

Thank you
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01-31-2019 , 12:42 PM
You can bet up to the cap (500 in the Omaha game) at any time the action is on you. Then it plays like a limit game where raises for that street has to be $500 more (unless all in) and there can only be a bet and 3 raises on a street unless heads up.
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01-31-2019 , 01:36 PM
Simple enough.

Thank you

Happen to know buy in range in that game?
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01-31-2019 , 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by that_pope
and there can only be a bet and 3 raises on a street unless heads up.
This is not the rule in all casinos. At some places an unlimited number of raises are allowed on a street regardless of the number of players. Your dealer can tell you which version of this rule is in use.
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01-31-2019 , 11:38 PM
Oh yeah, forgot an Omaha game gets spread at that other casino on the regular now.
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02-04-2019 , 01:14 PM
I glanced at Bravo yesterday morning (Superbowl Sunday) about 9am, and Talking Stick had 41 games with 40+ waiting lists for some games (one, at least). Is that really true? There had been some discussion in the home game Saturday about how busy it would get. I had no plans to play poker, always hit a friends place (or Vegas) for the Big Game (in hindsight, LOL). How was the action? Crazy busy? Lot's of promos? At the same time, WHP had 1 game going.
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02-04-2019 , 01:22 PM
Yes a ton of splash pots and extra game tickets.

I got there at like 11:20 and had to wait about an hour and a half to get a 20/40 seat, which isn't involved in the promos.

I had my name up on 4/8 to see how long it would take, and it took over 3 hours to get called.
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02-05-2019 , 05:54 PM
I was cashing out at CAZ Talking Stick the other evening and they asked me for my player's card and a photo ID. I don't recall them ever doing that before, and was wondering if this was a new thing, or if I was just hitting a threshold that requires it. I later asked a buddy who works as a dealer there, and he told me the threshold is $3K.

I'm not a big fan of this, so subsequent evenings, I colored up to $500 chips with a chip runner at the table and only cashed out below $3K and pocketed the rest for another day.
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02-05-2019 , 06:53 PM
Pretty much every casino will ask for ID if you cash out ~$3k or more nowadays. It is a requirement of federal FinCEN anti-ML laws.

Structuring - the purposeful adjustment of the amounts you cash out for in order to avoid federal reporting requirements - is a crime itself (whereas cashing out money, whether or not a report is generated, is not). It is also not likely to work - casino cashiers are trained to spot it, and will secretly continue to report you if they suspect anything. You should not structure, ever.

Having said that, coloring up into big chips and then taking them home to reuse in a future session is commonplace. No problem doing that, as long as you're not doing it to structure and avoid reporting thresholds. i.e. don't ever do this if you then cash out multiple times in close proximity for $2500 at a time.

Your best best is to just cash out for whatever you want to cash out for, provide ID if they ask for it, and stop worrying about it. You're just drawing more attention, and possibly committing a crime, if you do not.
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02-05-2019 , 08:11 PM
Yes, cashing out in chips is common in the higher limit games, especially since it is also quicker to buy in for 2-3k in $500 chips than 20-30 bills.
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02-06-2019 , 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Quadstriker
This is not the rule in all casinos. At some places an unlimited number of raises are allowed on a street regardless of the number of players. Your dealer can tell you which version of this rule is in use.
At TSR the rule is a bet and three raises in multiway.
No cap on raises if the play is heads up before 3rd raise is placed/made.


Im curious what rooms allow unlimited raises in a spread game when multiway.
anywhere in particular you can name?
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02-06-2019 , 09:30 PM
I've never heard of one.
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02-06-2019 , 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by UbinTook
At TSR the rule is a bet and three raises in multiway.
No cap on raises if the play is heads up before 3rd raise is placed/made.


Im curious what rooms allow unlimited raises in a spread game when multiway.
anywhere in particular you can name?
Casino del Sol in Tucson
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02-06-2019 , 10:55 PM
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Your best best is to just cash out for whatever you want to cash out for, provide ID if they ask for it, and stop worrying about it. You're just drawing more attention, and possibly committing a crime, if you do not.
I wonder if something/what happens after a certain amount of cash outs that are over three grand. Will they assume you are some kind drug dealer who is laundering money?

Last edited by Duke CT; 02-06-2019 at 10:56 PM. Reason: grammar
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