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spread limit.
2/3-300
is $2 small Blind $3 Big blind and you may bet a minimum of $3 to a maximum of $300 accordingly at any time.
Buy in at CAZ is $100 minimum with a $300 Maximum.

3/5-500
is $3 small Blind $5 Big blind and you may bet a minimum of $3 to a maximum of $500 accordingly at any time.
Buy in at CAZ is $300 minimum with a $1000 maximum.

Spread limit is generally played according to limit rules: I.E 3 raises per betting round and an all in raises of half or more reopens the betting if not yet capped.

Thanks. Does CAZ normally have a lot of these tables, or is it only for peak hours?

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08-07-2011 , 03:25 PM

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Khrysys

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Originally Posted by Grindhouse55

Thanks. Does CAZ normally have a lot of these tables, or is it only for peak hours?

2/3 - There is always at least 1 game going (even at 3am), at least 3 games during the day time, 6+ weeknights, 9+ weekends.

3/5 - 1 game during the day, 2+ weeknights, 3+ weekends.

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08-07-2011 , 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Khrysys

2/3 - There is always at least 1 game going (even at 3am), at least 3 games during the day time, 6+ weeknights, 9+ weekends.

3/5 - 1 game during the day, 2+ weeknights, 3+ weekends.

Pretty accurate for the most part.
Lately they have been spreading a 2/3-300 Omaha High on swing shift for most of the night, but it tends to get short later in the evening.

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08-07-2011 , 06:01 PM

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DeadMoneyWalking

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Somehow the drive took 6 hours from Tempe to LV with no Phoenix traffic and minor Boulder City traffic. desert driving blows. Espec with a wrong turn in Twickenberg staying on 60.

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08-07-2011 , 07:10 PM

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I have played ~100 hours of the 2/3 game and never seen the cap effect the betting. Two players would have to be at least 1k deep each and get in a huge pot with each other

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08-07-2011 , 07:26 PM

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I have played ~100 hours of the 2/3 game and never seen the cap effect the betting. Two players would have to be at least 1k deep each and get in a huge pot with each other

I have seen the cap affect the betting a number of times, but its never for the maximum betting amount... it is raised 3-15 dollars at a time to the cap.

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08-07-2011 , 08:02 PM

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Somehow the drive took 6 hours from Tempe to LV with no Phoenix traffic and minor Boulder City traffic. desert driving blows. Espec with a wrong turn in Twickenberg staying on 60.

Hate that stupid circle thing.

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I have played ~100 hours of the 2/3 game and never seen the cap effect the betting. Two players would have to be at least 1k deep each and get in a huge pot with each other

I have, at Bay 101. On a table that hates straddles. Wiseguy straddles, next in raises to 15, next guy raises to 20, next guy caps at 25. Straddling stops.

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08-07-2011 , 09:51 PM

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I meant the 300 max bet...

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08-07-2011 , 10:29 PM

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Have seen that as well at Bay, except there was a $200 max bet. Multiple stacks of $2k+, bet out of 200, raised max ($400 total), etc, etc. Pot was around $3k. This was a few years ago when there was lots of action at Bay 101.

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08-07-2011 , 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by pig4bill

Hate that stupid circle thing.

I have, at Bay 101. On a table that hates straddles. Wiseguy straddles, next in raises to 15, next guy raises to 20, next guy caps at 25. Straddling stops.

wow nits at that table, I hope the straddler found a table where they appreciate a guy that puts his $ in with the worst of it

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08-07-2011 , 11:16 PM

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He's only putting 5 bucks "in with the worst of it". What the table is telling him is he's not getting the last raise in pre-flop.

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08-08-2011 , 12:05 AM

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He's only putting 5 bucks "in with the worst of it". What the table is telling him is he's not getting the last raise in pre-flop.

I'm on the nitty side of the spectrum myself. I don't straddle, but my observation of these utg straddlers is they like to raise up anywhere from 25% to 50% of their starting hands. Which is definitely taking the worst of it imo. Sounds like some of the table should be playing limit where you can always see a flop.

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08-08-2011 , 02:36 AM

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I have played ~100 hours of the 2/3 game and never seen the cap effect the betting. Two players would have to be at least 1k deep each and get in a huge pot with each other

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I have seen the cap affect the betting a number of times, but its never for the maximum betting amount... it is raised 3-15 dollars at a time to the cap.

I have seen it in spread limit only a handful of times over 2 years. Every time it was preflop action.

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08-08-2011 , 03:35 AM

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The four-bet cap doesn't happen much, but there are a few times when $250 might be the wrong size bet and strategy suffers as a result.

Any pot with $450 in it might require a bet of over $250 to give the wrong price to the right sort of draws.

Obviously you have to adjust your strategy accordingly, but the per-bet-cap is much more likely to influence decisions more often than the number-of-bets cap.

...but even then, it's a small number of pots.

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08-08-2011 , 09:10 AM

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Just got back from Wild Horse Pass for the first time since I recently moved to the southern half of Tempe and its now a closer drive, go figure. By far the best casino in Arizona sans poker action. My god, I was playing a cash game with actual cash chips!

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08-08-2011 , 04:01 PM

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I was at The Fort the other day. Unless they're remodeling they've cut the poker room in half. I think that might actually be the case bec the wall looks permanent to me.

the fort is indeed cutting the poker room down due to not having enough demand. i was informed last week when checking a tourney and the girl told me it was gonna be superdead, basically telling me not to come as it isnt worth it.lol.

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08-09-2011 , 02:07 AM

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Taken	Cumulative	@	%
1	1	3	33%
1	2	5	40%
1	3	10	30%
1	4	20	20%
0	4	29	14%
1	5	30	17%
0	5	37	14%
0	5	100	5%
0	5	200	3%

($29,$37,$100 and $200 added for illustration.)

Nice table. Glad to have a visual percentage breakdown. Thanks.

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08-09-2011 , 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Quadstriker

I have seen it in spread limit only a handful of times over 2 years. Every time it was preflop action.

I agree been playing at CAZ for 4 years now and seldom see the spread limit (Max bet) cap hit unless playing 2/5 late in the night with the same group or drunk overnights fri/sat on 2/3 when stacks are so big its almost impossible not to three bet max...

Overall it has seldom affected my play. 5/10 is a whole new discussion though..

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08-09-2011 , 02:54 PM

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when they were doing splash pots last summer I tried to min raise to get pf betting capped whenever I could.

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08-09-2011 , 03:13 PM

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There doesn't happen to be some random Twitter account that keeps tabs on up to date Phx area cash games, or even just a CAZ cash game twitter account is there?

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08-09-2011 , 03:52 PM

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There doesn't happen to be some random Twitter account that keeps tabs on up to date Phx area cash games, or even just a CAZ cash game twitter account is there?

@TS_Resort & @CasinoArizona are two twitter accounts directly associated with the casino and post updates not always about poker..

@ArizonaPoker is poker atlas and posts updates on all Az tournaments

But to answer the cash game question no there isn't but I can tell you I play random 5 days a week and usually I start from 9am -3pm depending on schedule and there are always multiple 2/3 games and by 11am one 3/5 game with the average being four 3/5 games by 4pm!

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08-09-2011 , 07:18 PM

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Thanks man.

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08-09-2011 , 07:40 PM

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any local hi lo regs in az that can comment on games/action/profitability?

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08-10-2011 , 05:33 PM

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I'm Driving through Arizona on I-40 next month and looking to break up the trip by getting some poker in for a couple days. What's my best options as far as location and NL-Spread games ? Thanks.

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08-10-2011 , 06:00 PM

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I'm Driving through Arizona on I-40 next month and looking to break up the trip by getting some poker in for a couple days. What's my best options as far as location and NL-Spread games ? Thanks.

Bad news.

I-40 passes you about 150 miles north of the two good quality casinos in Phoenix spreading NL (well, pseudo-NL spread-limit) games.

If you're willing to detour south into Phoenix, your best bets are Casino Arizona at Talking Stick and Gila River's Wild Horse Pass location - both of which pretty much always have a game running -- although CAZ is closer to your detour and busier.

Short of that, you can swing an hour south to Cliff Castle where nothing will be running, or you can keep driving to Kingman and detour into Laughlin.

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