I think so. The real question is : can I use my poker comps to straddle?

Does the 5/5 w/ rock plo run play about the same way money wise as a 5/10 plo game?

Hard to answer that. Different 5/10 plo games in different areas of the country play differently from each other.

The min max is 400-2000.
Any straight 5/10 plo game I've ever played in has a higher min and max. You also cant straddle to 20 in this game (sometimes they put on the dead 20 behind the rock) but could straddle to 20 in a normal 5/10 plo game.

Really? thats pretty big thing not being able to straddle.. happens pretty often.

i was wondering though if i should think of the game as a regular 5/10 plo besides what you said... i see no reason why i shouldnt but was wondering if i was missing something obvious.

thanks

Yea Wynn allows straddle after the rock,aria doesn't but 5/5 doesn't run nearly as much at the Wynn.

Keep in mind the rock is disproportionately in position as the winner of the hand gets the rock.

It's also a short stackers dream since

1)the min buy in is less than a normal 5/5 straddle game
2) it's only costing 10 dollar per round to play instead of 20 yet when they get a premium hand preflop they get the benefit of raising off of the 10 dollar rock (or 3 betting off of the bigger open)

There are a decent amount of short stacking hit and runners (mostly euro)in this pool which gets pretty annoying so in certain lineups you'll have to adjust for that.

Thanks. for the info, appreciate it... forgot about how a rock was played at the table. The east coast games have been getting pretty lose pf so this "should" im guessing keep players at least a little more at bay and have the game play a little more straight foward... Right?

Thanks agaijn

Eh depends on the table. Some tables are wild some are super nitty and reg filled.

People filter in and out of games in Vegas faster than anywhere else I've played. The local regs tend to play 6-10 hour sessions but most of the touristy types don't play super long.

This behavior tilts the **** out of me.

Vegas regs are really bad with stuff like this.
I swear they think they're hot **** bc they live in Vegas.
I don't even mind the asking for a straddle etc-but read the table. When recs are clearly uncomfortable with it let it go. And don't just sit down and demand it. The game doesn't revolve around you.

In general I just straddle (I think dead anything is stupid especially in a short stacked game) in normal plo games and just hope it catches on. I'll basically only stop if after a few orbits almost nobody else joins me but I never try and pressure people.

My favorite was on my last trip here some intolerable plo reg basically demanded the dead 20 after the rock. He had about 1200 bucks. Half the table had maybe 1000. I said no as did a few others.

Him:what you guys don't want to gamble?

Me:I'll flip you for your stack.

Him:nah man I'm here to play

Me:I'll do the dead 20 if you buy in for the max and you only run all ins once since you wanna gamble so bad.

Him:crickets

Of course the 25/25 plo game had one person on the list and he wasn't on it.

And while I haven't played NL in ages just seeing the 5/10 nl tables is vomit inducing. God forbid they be welcoming to recs and try to create a fun atmosphere.

If you fold all your hands, a 5/5 rock game costs you $5 less per round than a 5/10 game.

If you raise and steal the blinds in a 5/5/rock game, you've really only won $10 + whatever incalculable value the rock has. The rock is obviously not actually worth $10. If the player with the rock is in the blinds, the pot actually starts with only $5 in it.

And obviously a 5/5/rock game is way, way smaller than a 5/5/10.

What does "dead 20" mean here?

As opposed to being a 'live' straddle. It's just a blind raise.

Thanks Carnivore.

How's the 5/10 now that cap is $5k? Is there usually an auto 20 or 25 straddle on most tables?

The 5/10 at aria is almost all pros it’s a terrible game

Has anyone seen structure sheets for the Aria Summer Classic?

They looked to be here:

https://aria.mgmresorts.com/en/casino/poker.html

Right now there are no 1-3 NL or 1-2 PLO games at Aria, but I do see 2 1-2 PLO games going at Bellagio which used to never have PLO. Has it been that way for a while?

PLO usually only runs at Bellagio during WSOP time (and not always). I've also seen 1-2 PLO running at MGM Grand, where they have an uncapped buy-in.

Aria had MTTs running on 6/8 ($800 NLH Mystery Bounty), 6/9 ($3.5k NLH Flight A), and 6/10 ($3.5k NLH Flight B) that took up all (or the majority) of their tables. As a result, they had essentially zero cash games running until tables began to free up.

Bellagio rarely gets PLO running, although it may occasionally get PLO games running during WSOP. Aria and Wynn are still the go-to rooms for PLO.

What can you tell me about the 1-2 PLO game?

Buy in range?

How is the game structured? Bring in? Max raise first in?


Headed out next week. I'm thinking about giving it a go.

Maybe the place next door too.
Sometimes I see it listed as 2-2 though.

$1000 max. $5 bring in. Opening pot size raise is $15 (the blinds combine to $5).

Thank you. Seems reasonable.

The buyin for the 1/2 game is only $500 checked twice other day... Buyin for 5/5/wrock is $2000 max.

Are theyre any pros who play inthese games here? Would EXTREMELY appreciate some advice please pm me will keep kinship annonymous and offthe felt

I’ve really enjoyed playing in the aria 1/2 plo over the years. Here’s my best memory ($500 buyin):