What's the max buy in on the 5 5 no limit and on the 5 10 no limit? Are games soft?

Max buyin for 3/5 is 500, and for 5/T is 2500. They are both spread limit with a 500 max bet.

Unless they've changed it, 3-5 you can buy in for 1000.

The 5/10 sl list should be on the front board imo.

they had it then took it off. no idea why. especially around now with the tourny it should be there.

So today at 3/5, action is on the river

Player A bets 30

Player B raises to 60

Player A 3b to 150

Player B cries "You have the nuts?" and then reaches over and flips over Player A's cards, and then folds when he sees that Player A does have the nuts.

Table is shocked and the floor is called over for what should be an clear ban. The floor only gives him a warning. Everyone is stunned. Thoughts?

Nothing stuns me at a poker table. As to thoughts: Protect your hand. What happened to player A could never happen to me.

I think they're trying to be a little easy because there are so many unknowns in town this week. That's ridiculous unless A pushed his cards toward B.

Not sure how it benefits them to show out of towners that cheating only gets a slap on the wrist here. A did not push his cards toward B, both hands were still live at the time.

Not a surprising ruling, since I often think the floor at talking stick has no clue. Minimum he should be kicked out for the day. Who was player A? Was he a reg?

What would have happened if A had a bluff?

Both are regs, dont think I should use names. Player A is one of the more well liked players in the room, B the opposite. Not sure if relevant but B had also been banned for 6 months before for a different incident.

If he has already been banned for 6 months for some incident in the past, I think this should definitely result in a lifetime ban.

But I'm not surprised it didn't, in the worst managed room I have ever played in.

100% Agree. But no a verbal warning shall suffice!

Ask management what the penalty would be if a player reached out and turned over the dealer's hole card in the blackjack pit.

Sounds like standard CAZ to me. I saw a ban that should've been lifetime, or at least a year, and it was only for the night. Which in this case was about 6 hours.

Just my opinion:
B pays A the additional 90 that was raised.
B had no right to see the hand unless he had called, since he chose to see the hand first, it is an implied call.
Then he should be 86'd, historical data on that player then used to determine that penalty.

Players need to face much stronger consequences for intentional inappropriate action and shot taking. There needs to be more accountability.

If harsher penalties are applied issues like this will begin to go away.
Moves as described in the OP are not "part of the game"


THAT said Howard is correct, protect your hand.

The most appropriate penalty for this kind of situation I've seen happened long ago when the WSOP was still down town. One fairly well known player (V1-a kind of nasty dispositioned whale) grabbed the hand of another well known at the time player (V2 also a grumpy disposition) and looked at it.

V2 reached over with both hands and grabbed two handfuls of black chips from V1's stack and threw them back over his head into the crowd. I kind of doubt they found all those chips

Yes, that's the purpose of a penalty. Unfortunately CAZ tends to see it as lost revenue so they don't do it. What they fail to realize is when they do stuff like this is they push away players like me who refuse to play there any more. They retain bad behavior players and push away the good behavior players. Eventually they'll be left with an LA-cesspool type of room.

That's pretty hard to do if you're not expecting it. Not all of us have the ninja-quick hands that Howard has.

LOL, perfect.

Saw the worst beat a full table took in a long time last night. About 6:00 pm last night, a 3/6 LHE table started a slow rise in sound with more and more people gathering to see the action. I was at a table nearby and went over to see what was going on. The super BBJ (4 J's or better beaten for $125M) was hit and then voided. Seat 5 hits a royal flush on the turn at the same time seat 6 makes 4 aces. Both still had money to bet, but seat 5 decides to show his hand to seat 6. WTF? Somehow the river gets dealt, then the floor shows up. More and more suits start coming over, and within minutes it's obvious there is a problem. About an hour later the final decision is given. No way, Jose. Seat 5 tries to explain to everyone within 10 miles that his action shouldn't matter. Yeah, right! To add insult to injury, they finally come over to award seat 5 $100 for his royal. Everyone else is out of luck. As I'm leaving about 3 hours later, seat 6 (4 aces) is still talking to the floor requesting the names and phone numbers of every gaming official in the world.

That's 125,000, not 125 million. My 1976 BS in economics still used the letter M to represent thousands, but I notice now most people consider M to be millions and K to be thousands.

Did seat 5 need a police escort to get out of there lol...that's just ******ed all around to show cards obv

I actually couldn't believe seat 5's actions. He sat in his chair for about 2 hours talking about it, then cashed out and walked around the room for another 45 min with a big smile on his face. He seemed to think he was now a celebrity or something. Later, a nice dealer sat in our game and when asked about it, she said he is a regular that constantly violates the "don't talk about it" rule when there JP situation. She says she has warned him several times not to do that, but he is old and arrogant and dismisses her. He funny last words were.."he's not one of my favorite people here."

IF there was ever a reason to invalidate a dealt JP, that is it.

Why would showing your cards prematurely be a good reason to invalidate a jackpot?