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Tell them not to hurry or anything... just let us know by the time next year's Championship start...

I asked a Casino guy in the room last night who won... he tells me "the young kid with the huge stack of chips"... thanks pal. I also asked why they haven't publicized it or called the paper with the results... "Oh they were here taking photos and stuff... I'm sure it'll be in there soon."

Don't rush it. Take the whole year if you need to...

Sigh

Posted in other thread...

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08-18-2010 , 02:24 PM

#527

YappingYoda

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Thanks! Not sure who he is, pro or amateur?

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08-18-2010 , 04:09 PM

#528

Alizona

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Originally Posted by YappingYoda

Thanks! Not sure who he is, pro or amateur?

My theory is nobody knows who any of em are, so nothing to really publicize. Also, in talking to other players I get the impression nobody cares who won because all they know or care about is that IT WASN'T THEM. Poker players are obv selfish like that, we're all in it for ourselves.

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08-18-2010 , 04:11 PM

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CharlieDontSurf

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They had an article in the paper about the tourney...but guess they don't want to publish the fact that people walked into CAZ and played a poker tourney and then left with thousands and thousands of dollars...cuz like who would be interested in that?

Wonder what 1st place paid

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08-18-2010 , 06:04 PM

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Alizona

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Originally Posted by CharlieDontSurf

Yah cause no criminal would ever think about it until they read about it in the paper. LOL

I doubt CAZ handed the winner $300K in CASH. I doubt they gave anyone at the FT a cash payout but must've done checks instead... no?

I thought about the privacy issue, but come on... they built this event up in the newspapers and radio ads all last week... but after its over they barely even acknowledge it even in their casino? Weird.

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08-18-2010 , 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Alizona

It just shows how dumb their marketing and PR people are. I bet there are thousands of a Valley folks who don't even know you can play poker at the casino.

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08-18-2010 , 11:30 PM

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Alizona

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FYI

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Originally Posted by UbinTook

2010 Casino Arizona State Champtionship Results
975 players total.
Final table all from Arizona with the exception of the 6th place
finisher who is from Washington State.

1st Ted Goldstein 336,368
2nd Jon Alter 167,700
3rd Manuel Levano 83,313
4th Brain fawzo 49,988
5th George Heide 30,638 ( aka Drew)
6th Steven Doebler 17,738
7th Ryan Hughes 12,900
8th Derek Wolters 10,750
9th Sammy Wright 8869
10th Brian Olsson 7364

( name spellings as accurate as i have them, Pic of Champion to come later)

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08-18-2010 , 11:33 PM

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Alizona

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Originally Posted by CharlieDontSurf

Wonder what 1st place paid

Posted in other thread... THEY DIDN'T CHOP IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.pokerroad.com/news/newsbrief/1927

"The winner of the event, according to poker room staff on site, was amateur player Ted Goldstein, who took down the title and a top heavy, non-chopped grand prize, worth $336,368."

Last edited by Alizona; 08-18-2010 at 11:33 PM. Reason: pre-tax obv lol sigh :(

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08-19-2010 , 01:36 AM

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DesertCat

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Originally Posted by Alizona

They aren't allowed to chop it.

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08-19-2010 , 02:41 PM

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Stee1rz_Fanz

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I spoke to the tournament director yesterday and he is taking everything into consideration for next years state tournament:

Start Times (Not 9am.. poker players don't wake up that early)
Blind Structure (Avoid shove fest)
Pay Out Structure (Stop the top heavy.. reward for FT)
Final Table Day (Not finish at 4am)
Chop possibilities

I think all we can do is provide our advise and see what happens...

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08-19-2010 , 02:51 PM

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Alizona

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Originally Posted by Stee1rz_Fanz

I agree with everything except #1... I thought 9am was PERFECT TIME... but then again I ain't a "pro", I make my money the old fashioned way, with an 8-5 desk job every day... 9am was a late start for me.

Thx for talking to them, A for effort but they prob already forgot about it. LOL

As they apparently told the Chainsaw (also known as Complainsaw)... "That's just how we do it here".

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08-19-2010 , 03:05 PM

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Stee1rz_Fanz

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Funny you bring up Chainsaw because I think he went about it the wrong way by just posting on twitter and facebook to CaAz rather than speaking to the TD. After a bunch of us spoke to the TD the blind structures were changed to encourage better poker... Also I think with Chainsaw's name and experience he could get someone like SavagePoker to lend some advise or recommendations to the CaAz staff without it comoing out like "complainsaw"...

I agree i work the 8-5 job (from home) and 9am was ok with me but stopping at 6pm to me was kinda odd..

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08-19-2010 , 04:05 PM

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rexcharger

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how is the 20-40 and 40-80 action now that this tourney and WSOP are over?

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08-19-2010 , 05:01 PM

#539

doublejoker

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OK I got the persons name to email my concerns about the poker tournament to. Should any of you want to do the same here it is.

Lauressa.thomas@casinoaz.com

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08-20-2010 , 03:27 PM

#540

Daliman

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So doublejoker, what VP machines were +EV here, as I have it on good authority you were spotted played it friday or saturday shortly after busting? What, the 5-10 game didn't look good to you? I wasn't in it Saturday, shoulda been just fine then

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08-20-2010 , 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rexcharger

how is the 20-40 and 40-80 action now that this tourney and WSOP are over?

If you came in late Wednesday night, your choices for LHE were 4-8 and 40-80

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08-20-2010 , 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DeadMoneyWalking

If you came in late Wednesday night, your choices for LHE were 4-8 and 40-80

The 4-8 is a pretty tough game with that rake, I encourage everyone to instead try the 40 game if they haven't a chance. It's pretty much played the same way, the regulars are very friendly and cordial, and you can win much, much, more.

It's the best game in the house!

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08-20-2010 , 05:42 PM

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Mike E. Vegas

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You found this on azcentral:

http://www.azcentral.com/community/p...mpionship.html

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08-20-2010 , 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DesertCat

Lies! Really you should try the 5/10spread limit. It's almost like 4/8 (5/10 is just one pip higher!) and it's sort of like limit and a little bit of the really fun texas poker that you see on TV. Definitely the most fun game in the house!

Mark

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08-20-2010 , 06:19 PM

#545

DeadMoneyWalking

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Originally Posted by DesertCat

Thank goodness they are so nice. I played 4-8 last summer and re-learned that it's bad ettiquette to raise when the sun is still shining.

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08-20-2010 , 06:38 PM

#546

DesertCat

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Originally Posted by DeadMoneyWalking

Thank goodness they are so nice. I played 4-8 last summer and re-learned that it's bad ettiquette to raise when the sun is still shining.

Oh, we love and encourage aggressive play at the 40, it's all good fun. Just wait till a reg three bets your aces with pocket deuces. You'll laugh and laugh trying to make the pain go away!

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08-20-2010 , 09:56 PM

#547

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Originally Posted by DesertCat

They aren't allowed to chop it.

They really can't stop it either. The WSOP doesn't "allow chops" either, but an arrangement made after payout is out of the casino's control. Harrah's gave up actively trying to prevent it.

It's the players money anyway. Their policy is absurd.

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08-20-2010 , 10:41 PM

#548

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Originally Posted by pig4bill

What is absurd is that it isn't even their policy. Like someone else said, at every other tournament with 9 people left the TD is actively encouraging everyone to just chop so they don't have to waste time dealing. They just pick this one and say no chopping so it sounds better when the top guy wins $350K or whatever.

Mark

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08-25-2010 , 05:18 PM

#549

DesertCat

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Anyone know what's going on today? Drove in at 2 pm, covered parking was full all the way to the top. Old lot in front of tent appeared full or close, I took a spin through the main lot but it appeared the other covered parking building isn't open yet, and the main lot appeared close to full.

I couldn't valet because their valets suck, so now I'm back home with all my money...

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08-25-2010 , 08:07 PM

#550

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Originally Posted by DesertCat

Anyone know what's going on today?

I think there was some kind of convention going on, I saw someone wearing a name badge when I was in the gift shop today.

I got to the parking garage around 10:30am and I had to park on the roof, normally there are a lot of empty spots at that time.

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