Snow at the casino today!!

Jack Snow? Bob Snow?

Betty Snow?

Some great pics from the CAZ twitter account:



and

http://instagram.com/p/V-IWesMi3X/

It needed to be said here:

THE NEW CARDS ARE HORRIBLE.

One of the decks is very much noticeable for being thinner than the other.

I have been at two different tables in the last few weeks where the blue deck wouldn't work in the shuffle machine. The machine kept thinking it was missing a card and would never correctly shuffle the cards. In one instance, a new machine was brought and that didn't solve the problem. In the one last night, a new deck was brought and that didn't solve the problem.

The dealers hate them, the floor and upper management is aware. Why must this continue?

Why isn't the manufacturer responsible for quality control? Is CAZ forsaking quality cards and player and dealer morale to save a few pennies a deck?

THE NEW CARDS ARE HORRIBLE

I have played in other rooms where cards were changed and it took awhile for everyone to get used to them, even if they were better. I have played a few times where people mentioned the new decks, but I didn't even notice them.

That said, if they are getting stuck in the shuffle machines, that is a big problem. I can also see how using a setup with two different kinds of decks would be a problem, they should stick with one or the other.

Interesting that the new cards don't work with the shuffle machines. At Casino del Sol in Tucson they've had big problems with cards getting marked, then having to call for a set up. One night late recently we lost a pretty good game when the spot got tired of the problems and left.

I've thought it was a problem with the machines, but wondering if it may be the cards. I'll have to ask if they've changed the cards. Of course that would be out of curiosity - I doubt they would change anything no matter what I say.

That wouldn't be a problem here, there weren't any cards without any marks. Give the new ones a week or so.

What's the plo like there weekday and weekend
Is it 3+6 or 4-8 ? Is full of reg and nits any crazy new player's

2-3 spread limit omaha hi, max bet $300, is rare to nonexistant.

But there has been a 5/10 spread limit popping up once in awhile.

The issue with any variation of Hi only Omaha ( at CAZ) is that the player base that would play consistently and not migrate back to Holdem, is limited.

The games might( as pope pointed out) pop up for a couple days, but then they disappear again.
The bored holdem players who decided to mix it up realize there are really a limited number of fish who play Omaha Hi and go back to what they know and prefer ( where there is likely to be more fishy action).

What manufacture are the cards?

Have to relate this unbelievable story of total dealer/floor incompetence that occurred today at a 2-3 table. I was in a hand with two other players. The pot was raised to $12 preflop. I was in seat 6 with pocket 9's. I checked a flop of 10-9-8 with two clubs. Seat 9 lead out for $30 and seat 1 called. I then moved all in for about $120. Seat 9 verbally insta-called and put his chips covering my bet in the pot. Seat 1 then verbally called and put his remaining chips (about $90) in the pot. After doing this, Seat 1 says that he didn't realize Seat 9 called and asked the dealer if he could take his bet back. Basically everyone at the table started laughing at him. Unbelievably, after some conversation between Seat 1 and the dealer, the dealer allowed him to take his bet back and pushed his chips out of the pot back to him. The table couldn't believe what was happening. I loudly protested and asked the dealer not to do anything else and to call the floor. The floor came over and was told what had happened. He said the dealer had made a decision and that he was not going to overrule her (what good is a floor person if he is not going to supervise the dealers and staff???). The dealer quickly mucked Seat 1's cards. As i continued to argue with the floor, he said there was nothing he could do because Seat 1 no longer had his cards. As it turned out both Seat 1 and 9 were on flush draws and the board bricked out and i won the hand. The dealer couldn't believe i was mad and acted as if she didn't do anything wrong. I ended up meeting with the casino manager (the poker room manager was not around) and the floor person a short time later. At the meeting, i related to the casino manager what had happened. The floor person changed his tune and admitted that the dealer had acted incorrectly and never should have allowed the player to take back his bet. He claimed, however, that Seat 1's cards were already mucked by the time he got to the table so that he couldn't do anything to rectify the situation. Of course, this was not true and i told the casino manager that we should look at the videotape to see what really happened. We ended up working things out by way of some comps but the fact that a situation like this could occur is mind boggling. Sometimes, the incompetence in the poker room is absolutely amazing.

LOL PARAGRAPHAMENTS

Going to Talking Stick for work next week.. will be there two nights, and would like to get in some action. What games spread? Do they have Bravo, or any other live-updates as far as lists and games running... twitter perhaps?

They have an effective call and ask system.

what games usually spread?

I don't feel like typing it up again. I usually end up posting it every couple months ITT. Please take some effort to go find it.

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The smaller spread limit game actually has $2 and $3 blinds (not 1/3), and I think the bigger one is $3 and $5.

This is right. But I doubt that will change someones opinion on playing vs. not. /nit

Just a heads up to the talking stick poker room and poker players---A group of players from the Deadwood South Dakota area--up to 12 players are meeting at the talking stick to not play poker ---but to see what they can get away with--they have managed to get away with about 2 million dollars from the Deadwood casinos over the last 4 years---authorities are finally admitting to a problem---be observant -- marking cards--signaling their hands and just about anything you can imagine is possible from this group.

Any other info on them other than some vague warning?

Pictures? What games do they play? Age range?

This is his other post on 2p2, regarding the Deadwood SD casinos. See the last three posts in the thread:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/20...od-sd-1038579/

It would appear, if true, this team is targeting spread limit games, althought it is also mentioned they play tournaments as well?

I wonder what a call to the South Dakota Gaming Commission would reveal, if anything?

There was a marked (cut) card in a tournament I played in this week at Talking Stick, and I asked the dealer twice to show the card after the hand was over. He refused to respond and acted as if he didn't hear me which bothered me a great deal. Why wouldn't he show it? I wanted to see if it was an ace and I felt like grabbing the damn card from his hands to look. Luckily, the person who brought another card (they didn't replace the whole deck) showed it inadvertently. It was the six of diamonds. Oops. Oh well.

I am always wary of collusion anywhere I play, and it's one of the reasons I prefer multi-table tournaments to cash play. Seems to me that everybody knows everybody else at the cash tables at CAZ... not that I believe everyone is colluding of course. I don't think that. But yes... always be aware and observant of everything at the table.

Ages 50s 60s with younger players now in the mix---this is only a problem because Deadwood casinos and the SD gaming commission has ignored warnings from its overwhelmingly honest poker community from the very day this group started to collude over 4 years ago---now they have grown into something very ugly that wants to go national. I am sorry that is all I can say at this point. And for what it is worth I find very little collusion though out the country and am embarrassed that this has been allowed to happen in Deadwood. Up until 4 years ago Deadwood had a thriving poker community. In the last 4 years we have lost over a third of our poker players. Players all along have fought to have something done but so far nothing and I mean nothing has been done to stop this group.

FYI during my visit this February to Talking stick I did alert a dealer to a marked card (side nick at about where the left hand index finger would reach). He called the floor for a replacement setup and tore the card in half. I saw no serious threat of collusion
during my visit.