I don't understand why you think "feeling sorry" equates to "here, I don't want your money, take it back". I think this is simply a problem with verbiage and grammer.

Instead of "sorry", what word or phrase should I use? It's simply an expression of empathy... "sorry bud, tough beat, been there too, we all have".

WAT...

Why the **** are we at a poker table if we are going to give money back to anyone that we are friendly with. That is horrible logic. You don't have to be enemies with the other 8 people at the table to be able to play poker.

Thanks for replying, Alizona. First of all, I would never do a fist pump and jump up and down if I sucked out on somebody. I am polite, respectful, and always smell nice haha. Seriously though, I understand what you are saying, and I know you see these people on a daily (or almost daily) basis. Sometimes it can be tough when money and friends mix. Anyway, let's just forget I ever brought the subject up. Good luck at the tables!

Thank you pope.

everyone has different reasons for being there and they are all valid. so if you win you owe no one anything other than not to ruin their day. you are there to play to win the game just like those same people did when they were in high school sports. they cheered and played to slaughter their opponents.
that said if you are friends or have to associate with people you need to fit into their customs somewhat. but not at your expense. when you chop a tourny do it such that it is to your benefit and if they dont want to do it that way play it out. i usually just tell the table what i am willing to take and give out. if it is remotely fair they accept. no way am i giving equal splits to small stacks just because they want it.

Instead of "sorry" I've realized a better phrase to use is "please accept my humblest apologies, sir". That's really what I mean when I say "sorry". But trust me, I'm not gonna overuse it. "Sorry" is a lot quicker and easier!

It's all good, Online Veteran, like I say it does bother me sometimes that I don't have a killer, cutthroat attitude and I do wonder if I'm being too friendly and too nice at the tables so its something that's been on my mind. Sure a lot of us try to find the right balance there.

I got awful news yesterday from TD George at the Fort. They are moving the Megastack tourney to SUNDAYS.

Yuck. Sunday is golf day... its tv sports day... its online big tourney day. Its not a day I'm driving down shea to play... so I'm bummed about that. Tourney's been a goldmine for me in 2010.

Looks like CAZ will def bcome my "home" which isn't so bad... new room and much shorter drive.

Nothing to be sorry about sir. I will sometimes express my empathy for a bad beat but never with a sorry because I am always glad to win, even if by luck. You are a gentleman and that is always appreciated. As to losing with AQ to K9, I am just glad to have gotten my money in good. Can't ask for more than that really.

I have not been out to the Fort since then, as I have been focusing on improving my play online mostly. I did drive out to CAZ for the opening but even that is a 40 mile drive for me.

CAZ question : At what amount is an id needed to cashout and why is it needed? I cashed out $3490 and I had to provide my players card/id.

I am not sure, but I hope one of the dealers in this thread will post the right answer. I have not been hit at ~$2500 and have been hit around $3500+.

BTW, there is nothing to worry about with this. They are required to track your cash outs. If you made several cashouts during a 24 hour period that totaled >=$10K they would be required to file the cash transaction report. Which is no big deal what so ever. Millions and millions of them get filed every day. It is no different than if you walked into you back and plopped down $11K in cash, they have to fill out the paper work. It does not go to the IRS or anything like that.

BTW II, do not manipulate your cashouts/deposits to avoid this reporting, that is called structuring and is a federal felony, bad news.

I wasn't really worried about it. It just surprised me and was more of an annoyance than anything. It added a few minutes to my cash out and a line formed behind me. I just wanted to know for future reference. I will just color up to purple chips next time, etc. so I don't have to wait the extra time, since I normally just cash out and bring the cash right back the following day...

Also what is the amount needed for a supervisor approval for a cash out? Is that $2500?

Good ole Title 31 regulations...

It's 3k. It's very common for people to go to the cage with well over 3k in chips however and ask for purple ($500) chips for any amount possible to get them under the 3k, which is reasonable considering most will just use those chips later, and it expedites chip buying much better later. I have never had an issue getting purples for amounts over 3k.

Thats good to know. If I was over 3k, which was very common playing 40/80, I would color up about 15 minutes beforehand, 2k at a time (rarely was it more than one trip). Now I know that was unnecessary.

I wonder if the IRS and the courts would consider it structuring. Or alternatively you could argue that you casino chips become worthless manufactured discs the moment you leave the reservation. Unlikely though.

I asked one of the guys at the poker room and they said the comp system is officially not active and they don't know what the comp rate will be. But he said to make sure to log all your hours because you will get credited for them once they get the comp system running.

The "right" answer is:
"i cant give you any details, you are free to call and speak with the Compliance Officer for the Casino, they will answer as many questions as they are able"

FWIW, I was told the other day by the cage that if you're buying 3k or more in chips at one time with cash, they also take your info. Thought that was a little strange, and it might've just been a newbie cage person getting things backwards, but it's worth mentioning I guess.

They also copied the ID's of everyone at the end of the month Saturday tourney when we got down to like 15 left which I thought was odd... but nobody said a word so I figured it was standard operating procedure. We ended up chopping with 10 left and thus nobody had to deal with paperwork. I thought the explanation the other day in this thread seemed reasonable, that they keep a running total on your cashouts just in case we come back later that day with add'l winnings to cash in that would put us over the limit.

This is true, they will, although I'm not sure what the reasoning why is.

And yeah Aaron is right, just color up to purples when you're cashing out, they don't have a problem with doing it at the window.

Mark

So it looks like we have massage people now. But they're so LOL right now. Why is it so hard for them to get anything right the first time?

It was just a random guy last night with no equipment. No pillow, no lotions, etc. No hand sanitizer. When he finished a guy he announces: Ok I am going to go wash my hands really quick. I didn't get a massage but it didn't look very professional. Not sure on that tho.

Anyway, I'm glad we have them. Step in the right direction...

Mark

They are being cautious with Semi-Secret IRS/Treasury regulations for financial institutions (category which casinos fall under) aimed at tracking drug dealers, terrorists, and other money laundering. In some of the regulations, it is illegal for the casino to even tell you why they are gathering information, and it is illegal to advise someone on how to get around having info gathered.

Title 31 for casinos.

Good stuff in there.

Another tip: Do not ask a casino employee what their gaming day is. They cannot tell you, and even asking raises a huge red flag. If you asked someone this while cashing out, expect your transaction to take an inordinate amount of time.

from the article:
This is commonly referred to in the business as "Fast Feeding" if you should ever overhear a Gaming official or whatever talking about it.

They only did a 21 way chop in the Super Bounty yesterday.

Did they just chop the remaining bounty money too?