How do you know that this situation couldn't be planned for? I don't know where the blame lies, but somebody goofed. If this was a 9.0 earthquake or a category 5 hurricane that would be an "act of God" and certainly could not have been planned for. Monsoons happen every year at this time. Some are more harsh than others. You would think the planners of the resort would have anticipated the most catastrophic scenario. This is something that simply can't happen to such a large operation. I've never heard of anything like this anywhere.

Somebody goofed!

Especially because this building was not put up in the 1920's, it was just a few years ago.

How long did it take to build? I don't remember the timing, but it seemed quicker than I expected.

Actually you don't construct to withstand the most catastrophic scenario. You weigh probabilities and severity and costs.

It may be that someone here "goofed". Or it may be that the combination of events and circumstances here were exceptional and not to be planned for. It's also possible that some outside factor changed since the design and construction.

Yeah, they have this thing in AZ called the "100 year flood". Planning only for that would be really stupid, because even if it only happened every 100 years, it could happen next year. Not to mention Tucson had TWO 100 year floods just a few years apart and I'm pretty sure it was before CAZ was built.

The rumor mill is just flying! - spent a couple days out there and i heard maybe 10 different stories/opening possibilities.

My favorite rumor was that when the casino was originally built the contractor didn't use the right cement. Apparently the casino management or whoever found this out when it happenned and sued the contractor - they wont the suit got paid and then didn't fix the issue. Now the insurance company won't cover it as a result and they may have to build an entirely new casino.

Seems like there is a non-zero chance that it is a complete re-build which is just insane...

If I was a gambling man I would bet somebody goofed!

Let me do the best I will try to alleviate some concerns although I know some of this news isn't going to make some folks feel better.. My Cousins wife works at TSR in Culinary as one of the managers and the information she has been given is this..

1. Yes there is major damage to the casino primarily to the electrical system which was essentially destroyed when the service tunnels were flooded due to monsoon storms earlier this month.. Some have speculated well Monsoon happens every year yes this is true but this year has been especially wet especially for the East Valley (areas East of AZ 51).. The Concrete issue is secondary to the electrical issue as the transformers were destroyed as well as both generators

2. The plan is now to POTENTIALLY reopen on a limited basis around Oct 1 (I suspect that means probably Casino only no hotel or other amenities).. They've been also told the goal is targeting full return to service window is anywhere from Thanksgiving to New Years..

I have no reason to doubt the veracity of this information as its coming from an actual employee of TSR..

There really is no excuse. This is a friggin' Indian casino. The tribe has been living there for hundreds of years. It's not like they were a bunch of investors from Ohio that built a casino and said "who knew it rains in the desert?".

The same guys who put the AC vents on the floor blowing upwards? Who knew cold air falls??

Its nice when you are hot and it goes up your pant leg.

Or the Marilyn Monroe impersonator walks by.

Floor vents are common.

Tentatively September 24th is a date that is coming up in rumors now, supposedly based on what a culinary manager was texted.

Again. All rumor. Zero fact. I take no responsibility.

That means a poker break for me bec I'm never setting foot in WHP ever again.

Happen to be in the Scottsdale area and was planning to play at TS. Sounds like that won’t happen now. Is there anywhere else in AZ that spreads Mid Limit hold em or mixed and is worth playing?



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Games have moved to Wild Horse in Chandler, which is about 30 min from TSR. And yes they are worth playing

That's because I know directions down there also!

I am enjoying trolling CAZ on Twitter. They keep trying to advertise their closed property, which seems super strange to do, like this:

What happened?

The usual, for them: I sat there for an hour and a half and they didn't call down the long list and I went to the movies instead. It turns out that Crazy Rich Asians is hilarious.

Not opening in September

https://www.abc15.com/entertainment/...ening-date-set

When Talking Stick re-opens we all have to spread out and ask everyone w/ a chance of knowing what actually happened. Maybe we can ferret out the truth including me being told that they have to wait for generators to come from Germany, ffs.

Ha, sounds like Tesla's excuse for not meeting production targets.

This guy knows stuff!