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10-17-2010 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadMoneyWalking
I had a 1:15 delay on the Hoover dam once at night last April. The routes were nearly a wash but maybe bridge will end that.
The bridge will pretty much make the dam route at least 45 mins faster than the Bullhead City route.

Mark
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10-18-2010 , 12:00 AM
One time a truck's wheels fell off in the worst spot imaginable and the delay was at least an hour. My mom almost peed in her pants. Finally we get thru and there are porta-potties and mom was first. A line formed and some girl was last and she was wiggling back and forth, clasping her hands and obviously had to go very badly. So I said to the rest of them that we should let her go next. Mom comes out and says there's no TP left, the girl says she doesn't care that she'll use her underwear if she has to.

I go into my man purse and come out w/ a pack of tissues. When she comes out she says to me: 'You're really very, very nice. You must not be from LV.'

I answer: 'WORSE! I'm from NY. That'll be $5.' For a few seconds she thought I was serious.
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10-18-2010 , 02:11 AM
Ya, that will help out the jams a lot. I got caught in a mess when they first started on the damn thing, blasting delay. Sat parked in the car for almost two hours just before the AZ road blocker thingy. They were blasting the cliff for the bridge supports, it really really REALLY sucked.

This will cut like Mark said at least 45 mins off the drive.
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10-18-2010 , 02:17 AM
Of course if they stop traffic to look at cars to protect the dam they're likely to do it for the bridge also. I wonder how much training the man with the flashlight has in bomb detection.
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10-18-2010 , 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadMoneyWalking
Of course if they stop traffic to look at cars to protect the dam they're likely to do it for the bridge also. I wonder how much training the man with the flashlight has in bomb detection.
I wish you were wrong, bulowing probably aren't. Blowing up the bridge would be a far less effective terrorist act than blowing up the dam. The flood from a busted dam could kill thousands people within miles while creating a huge loss in the regions water supply. An explosive large enough to cause the bridge to collapse would be wasted, as it would kill far more people if detonated in an urban area.

It would be dumb to spend an enormous amount of money reducing travel times with this bridge, then gut almost of the time savings with excessive security measures. But when I remember that the TSA wanted to require all business jet passengers searched before boarding, I also remember that the biggest casualty of 9/11 was common sense.
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10-18-2010 , 02:50 PM
It takes me less than 4.5 hours from my house to the hotel on the strip.

It takes me longer to go to the airport and then wait for a cab to the hotel.
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10-18-2010 , 03:10 PM
I drove this weekend to Vegas and back.

Checkpoint to checkpoint inbound Friday afternoon was about 20 minutes, smooth sailing across the bridge -- as smooth as can be with crosswalks and traffic, anyway.

Checkpoint to checkpoint outbound Sunday afternoon was about 80 minutes, with the bulk of the delay being the security checkpoint -- traffic was much faster over the dam itself.

On Saturday they did a "demonstration" opening. The road is fully functional, but won't open to normal motor vehicle traffic for 3-4 more weeks. Bikes and pedestrians can cross it today, however.

The time savings has a lot more to do with if they remove Zee Papers Please checkpoints since we're not crossing the dam.
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10-18-2010 , 03:22 PM
I wonder how long it will take for the first jumper.
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10-18-2010 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by trussdude
I wonder how long it will take for the first jumper.
Open to foot traffic today, so, uh, start your [death]clocks.
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10-18-2010 , 04:23 PM
Anyone have an opinions on the $8/16 Omaha Hi Lo?

I've played the $4/8 and the $8/16 for a bit lately and had a few thoughts:

The number of hands/hr is incredibly low... maybe 20-25 hands/hr at best.

People tipping $1 when they win $6 in a split pot is nice for the dealer and bad for the players.

The $8/16 had more loose older asian gambler types, and the $4/8 is mostly old people that limp every hand and check the nuts in position on the river (very slow game).

People play awful hands and chase (as expected).

With the rake+JP drop every hand I'm not sure the $4/8 is even beatable unless the table is amazing.

Even the $8/16 I feel is tough to beat for more than a few BBs/100 hands. CAZ is taking minimum $100 off the table every hour in rake+JP, plus ~$15-25 tips/hr as well. Playing for 4 hours removes a lot of cash off the table, and you might get to see 100 hands during this time.

I feel like even at a great table these games are just marginally beatable at best.

Lastly, I suck at hi/lo and there is no reason CAZ should not start a PLO $1/2 with $5 bring in game.
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10-18-2010 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by NuklearWinter
People tipping $1 when they win $6 in a split pot is nice for the dealer and bad for the players.
You won't see much faster anywhere else in town.

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Originally Posted by NuklearWinter
The $8/16 had more loose older asian gambler types, and the $4/8 is mostly old people that limp every hand and check the nuts in position on the river (very slow game).
Unlucky draw of players/time of day. You get plenty of three-bet-anything, straddle, gamble-for-the-sake-of-gambling, types in the 4-8 game, depending on when you play.

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Originally Posted by NuklearWinter
People play awful hands and chase (as expected).
True. In the long run, that's good news.

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Originally Posted by NuklearWinter
With the rake+JP drop every hand I'm not sure the $4/8 is even beatable unless the table is amazing.
There's generally enough action, provided you can make good decisions and reads post-flop. I won a fair deal last time, and as I like to say, if I can....anyone...can.

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Originally Posted by NuklearWinter
Even the $8/16 I feel is tough to beat for more than a few BBs/100 hands. CAZ is taking minimum $100 off the table every hour in rake+JP, plus ~$15-25 tips/hr as well. Playing for 4 hours removes a lot of cash off the table, and you might get to see 100 hands during this time.
Well, no objection there -- at least to the obscene rake part. There's a lot of money coming off live poker tables, especially at low-limits, especially in games with split pots and healthy tippers.

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Originally Posted by NuklearWinter
I feel like even at a great table these games are just marginally beatable at best.
Possibly true, but there's a few players making regular withdrawals from the 4-8 economy.

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Originally Posted by NuklearWinter
Lastly, I suck at hi/lo and there is no reason CAZ should not start a PLO $1/2 with $5 bring in game.
I also agree completely. I'd enjoy donating $100 bills as I got better at PLO.
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10-18-2010 , 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by The Palimax
Open to foot traffic today, so, uh, start your [death]clocks.
Prop bet? I say o/u is 15 months. The family will sue and it will take 2 years for a high court to toss the suit.
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10-18-2010 , 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadMoneyWalking
Prop bet? I say o/u is 15 months. The family will sue and it will take 2 years for a high court to toss the suit.
My snap-thought is that I'll take the under on the jump and the over in the dismissal (assuming jump date + two years).

...but as a rule, I don't bet on anything that eats*.

[*Ok, well, I bet small on MMA fights, but that's just for ball-busting rights between friends.]
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10-20-2010 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadMoneyWalking
Prop bet? I say o/u is 15 months.
I got 2 to 1 odds last night that it happens by the end of the year.
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10-25-2010 , 01:22 PM
Guy died last night at CAZ. Stood up, fell over, dead. Had a heart attack I guess.
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10-25-2010 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by NOSUP4U
Guy died last night at CAZ. Stood up, fell over, dead. Had a heart attack I guess.
Wow, what time?

I was there during the Packers game, 4:30-8:30ish.

I am very sure it didn't happen while I was there, or even before, because I would have heard about it I am sure.
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10-25-2010 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NOSUP4U
Guy died last night at CAZ. Stood up, fell over, dead. Had a heart attack I guess.
Someone had just handed him the flyer showing the Casino is reducing the rake in the Tues/Wed Tournaments from 23% to 13%.

I nearly had a heart attack when I saw it too. So I can understand.

And no I will not apologize for goofin' on someone's death. As far as I'm concerned, that guy died just the way I hope to, having fun. I hope I die before I get old.
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10-25-2010 , 03:19 PM
you will change your mind on that in a few years
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10-25-2010 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by that_pope
Wow, what time?

I was there during the Packers game, 4:30-8:30ish.

I am very sure it didn't happen while I was there, or even before, because I would have heard about it I am sure.
Around midnight.

Also dealer last night was telling me that there are some ridic promotions starting up soon. Monte Carlo 24/7 only for the holdem tables, and table shares for everyone. And something else that was bigger/better that I was really shocked and excited about because I thought when word got out a ton of fish would be flocking in. But of course I can't remember what it was now for the life of me.
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10-25-2010 , 03:35 PM
I hope somebody swiped the poor guy's players card for him. He mighta been screwed out of 4 hours of comp time when he dropped dead because of the stupid idiotic way they keep tabs.

If they used the Fort McDowell system and had the dealers keep track with the card reader and pushbuttons right at the tables, poor guy wouldn't have this problem and wouldn't be up there in poker heaven worrying about it.
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10-25-2010 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Alizona
I hope somebody swiped the poor guy's players card for him. He mighta been screwed out of 4 hours of comp time when he dropped dead because of the stupid idiotic way they keep tabs.

If they used the Fort McDowell system and had the dealers keep track with the card reader and pushbuttons right at the tables, poor guy wouldn't have this problem and wouldn't be up there in poker heaven worrying about it.
Is it confirmed that we have to swipe out? I never do cause obv I never think about it when I leave.
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10-25-2010 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Ray Zee
you will change your mind on that in a few years
I already did change my mind.

When I was young I wanted to live forever. Now that I'm old, I've finally seen the folly of youth... who the hell would want to put up with life's BS forever? That's insanity.
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10-25-2010 , 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by NOSUP4U
Is it confirmed that we have to swipe out? I never do cause obv I never think about it when I leave.
I dunno, I only play tourney, no cash.

I know regs hate me for saying it, but I think The Fort's system is awesome. It's totally accurate down to the minute, it's hassle free cause dealer does everything, and IT DOESN'T SLOW PLAY DOWN AT ALL.

Last edited by Rapini; 10-25-2010 at 03:50 PM.
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10-25-2010 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Alizona
Someone had just handed him the flyer showing the Casino is reducing the rake in the Tues/Wed Tournaments from 23% to 13%.
Do you have details on this?

It wasn't really 23% before. The dealer add on is included as rake.

$105 + $25 + $10 = $140

Only $105 went towards the price pool.
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10-25-2010 , 06:37 PM
I played Wed nite and dealer handed me the new flyer when I sat down.

Unless flyer was a fake the new rake is 115+15, thought it said starting Nov. 5 but that's a Friday...

And about the extra $10 DEFACTO FEE THAT ISN'T ON OUR RECEIPTS... I would let loose with a diatribe against the casino but 2p2 mods don't seem to like it when I fly off the handle and start throwing around heavyweight insults like "morons" so I'll refrain.
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