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07-10-2010 , 12:41 AM
Maybe a newb question, but what is a traveling button?
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07-10-2010 , 02:35 AM
how many tables do they have?
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07-10-2010 , 04:27 AM
So did this mythical 25/50NL game go off today?
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07-10-2010 , 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by cowboy.up
Maybe a newb question, but what is a traveling button?
It can be confusing and I've only had half a cup of coffee, but the rule is that the button always moves forward and a player can't gain an advantage by skipping a blind.

Example:

Seat 1 button, Seat 2 SB, Seat 3 BB....hand completes and seat 2 busts out.

Next hand, seat 3 becomes the button but will post SB on the button because he hasn't paid his SB yet, seat 4 will post a BB because he hasn't paid BB or SB yet, seat 5 will post a BB as well

Next hand (assuming no one in the blinds busts out), button moves to seat 4 who posts SB on button (paid BB last hand), seat 5 posts SB (paid BB on last hand), seat 6 posts BB

Next hand (assuming no one in the blinds busts out), we're back to normal, button moves to seat 5, seat 6 posts sb, seat 7 posts bb

For situations where both blinds bust out in the same hand or you have players bust out multiple hands in a row you just have to remember that the button always moves forward and everyone has to pay their blinds BB first then SB on the next hand.

Last edited by jasonHoldEm; 07-10-2010 at 05:22 AM.
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07-10-2010 , 10:40 AM
"5/10 NL also running.

Traveling Button is Peter's decision (second the blech!)

You COULD buy from the dealers...they just prefer you buy your first rack from the cage as to not slow down the proress of the game. "
5/10 wasn't running when I left around 5pm so cannot attest to that.
I was told that while they are overstaffed and actually have dealers working a down as a chip-runner before breaks they are not selling chips at the table.
As for the 100max buyin I was told that's a PA rule and thus why the Rivers is running 1/3 NL so they can have $300 buyin.
Of everything I'm reading about Rivers I'm definitely glad I went to the Meadows.
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07-10-2010 , 12:23 PM
5/10 started around 630 and they had a max buyin of 1500 so I don't know if 100bb is a PA rule
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07-10-2010 , 02:44 PM
the 5/10 definitely ran last night, 100% positive, especially since I dealt it. there were 2 2/5's, about 12 1/2's, 3 or 4 FL games ((2/4-3/6)not positive on the exact number, wasnt in that string) there were interest lists filling up for 10/20 FL, 10/20 NL, 1/2 PLO, 1-5 stud, 3/6 Om hi/lo. When I left at 10, the 25/50 had not gone off yet, but from what I heard, theres already at least 7 players confirmed that want it to go every thursday night. the action has been extremely soft, i have played for a living for the past 4-5 years, and it is definitely some of the softest i have seen.

The room is non smoking, the bathrooms are right outside the entrance, there's a bar inside the room (a guy was ordering a shot of crown and a 16 oz draft, which cost him $7.25 i think...not too overpriced), the food is pretty good, havent had any complaints yet.

cant think of anything else that i saw questioned in this thread, but ill look back before i have to go in tonight.
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07-11-2010 , 03:17 AM
The room is nonsmoking, downstairs. Overall visual aesthetics are lacking in this room. Decor is very red, and in my opinion, the lighting is a bit too harsh. Tables are 10-handed, just adequately sized, and drink holders are the movable plastic things. Very good space between tables. Chairs were mediocre (too bad, because it looks like they tried for better). They need to double or triple up on the TVs - very few of them. No movable tables; they're on order. Many cell phones don't work in the room. For those who care, the chips are new sharp-edged Paulson Tophat and cane (as expected), but the color combos and edge patterns are flat-out ugly - Oh where is the artistry?

Staff is friendly. Floor did a fairly good job filling the seats/moving the line. Biggest problem there was dealers not updating their Bravo records (false positives and false negatives). Dealers were generally pretty solid; most have experience. There were a few that needed help. Cashiers were slow, but not amazingly slow (as was experienced during the WV poker startup). Drink service was spotty. As expected, beers aren't free, but unfortunately they're too expensive to justify. Drinks are served in real glassware; can that last? Food service to the poker room seems to be a future, and there isn't much in the way of food selection near the poker room. Restaurants in the casino close pretty early, but apparently you can get hot dogs all night long (oh joy!).

Lots of familiar players from Wheeling/Mountaineer scattered throughout the room, but even more unfamiliar faces. The competition was much softer than the norm in the WV casinos. To be honest, it felt like I was in Vegas for an evening; hopefully this will last for awhile. An overall friendly atmosphere of normalcy prevailed. Some players were contrasting this with Rivers, which apparently was infested with an outbreak of PSC (Poker-Slacker Complex) - ipods, hoodies, sunglasses, comatose deaf-mutes texting their way into walls.

You can buy chips from the dealer; I saw that repeatedly during my visit. New players do not post. Many dealers weren't requiring missed blinds to be posted by returning players (that should tighten up once the angling starts).

Lots of 1/2 NL, a few 2/5, one 5/10, a few 2/4 and 3/6 FL, and there was a stud game 1-5 spread running Fri night. Despite the crazy exuberant confidence expressed earlier in this thread, the mythical 25/50 game never happened, of course.
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07-11-2010 , 03:58 AM
Returned from Meadows. Horrible rule about exposed cards is being used "as per the state".
Currently if a card is exposed while dealing or boxed that card is showed to the table, mucked and then another card replaces it.
It does not become the burn to keep flop, turn and river correct.
Also if a player receives a card face up they immediately receive the next card. The dealer does not skip them and give them the last card.
I don't care a lot about it since random cards are random cards, however the hands one would get as well as the board is being changed by this decision. Would bother me a lot more if there was bad beat jackpots to chase.
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07-11-2010 , 06:12 AM
I mapquested Washington PA & got two of them?? one in Washington County, the other in Cumberland County??? Which county is this Poker rm in???
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07-11-2010 , 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by F'nCAT
I mapquested Washington PA & got two of them?? one in Washington County, the other in Cumberland County??? Which county is this Poker rm in???
You want the one south of Pittsburgh. The meadows is off 79.
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07-11-2010 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by F'nCAT
I mapquested Washington PA & got two of them?? one in Washington County, the other in Cumberland County??? Which county is this Poker rm in???
meadows is located in washington county bro biden
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07-11-2010 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Witzo
Returned from Meadows. Horrible rule about exposed cards is being used "as per the state".
Currently if a card is exposed while dealing or boxed that card is showed to the table, mucked and then another card replaces it.
It does not become the burn to keep flop, turn and river correct.
Also if a player receives a card face up they immediately receive the next card. The dealer does not skip them and give them the last card.
I don't care a lot about it since random cards are random cards, however the hands one would get as well as the board is being changed by this decision. Would bother me a lot more if there was bad beat jackpots to chase.
yeah, I questioned the floor on this, actually, I asked the floor a ton of questions because he said he was bored.

1 live staddle per hand
hate the button moving rules, some dealers insist this is state required, some said it's room rule.
cell phones away from the table

room is in a good spot, easy parkinjg and easy access to restrooms and food court.

Comps are meh at .50/hour, seating was awful, I was playing low limit holdem (3/6, couldn't get enough interest in a 5/10 game) and there was always a list and we would have empty seats for 15-60 minutes. I would ask a dealer if there was a list and most of them just said if there were, they would be at the table already, but obviously this wasn't the case, some of the more experienced dealers would yell out seat openings. none of the new dealers made any major mistakes.
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07-11-2010 , 11:50 PM
Spent last night at the Meadows after Rivers the night before.

-Love the bathrooms right outside the room, wayyy closer than Rivers.
-I think this was already cleared up, but it is non smoking. I'm not a smoker, and even though both meadows and rivers rooms are non smoking, i prefer this one much more than rivers since it is downstairs. After a night at rivers i smelled like an ashtray, not so with meadows.
-Both rooms use the traveling button, heard from many dealers and floor at both that it is state law, one floor mentioned it was a room rule to create action.
-Didnt notice much difference in the chairs, but the Meadows tables seem way cheaper than Rivers. Rivers felt and rail are way softer, they definitely used very different materials, and rivers had cupholders in the rail which dont get in the way like the meadows slide under ones.
-I liked the atmosphere at Meadows much more. More laid back, not near as many headphones, sunglasses, and hoodies as rivers.

If i lived equal distance from the two, it would be a tough call but i'd probably go with meadows because of the bathrooms (its really a hike at rivers, just wait til you see if you havent been there yet), true non smoking, and more relaxed atmosphere. But, I'm much closer to rivers, so the comfy tables and chairs win. I also think theres gonna be easier money at rivers, as long as you can stomach groups of drunks acting like theyre on tv and sucking out with 10-2 (Cause, you know, "Thats the hand doyle brunson wins with!!")
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07-12-2010 , 12:07 PM
Gonna try Rivers and Meadows on Friday. Does either one spread Let it Ride or 4 card poker? Dont see it listed on their table games list but hard to believe theyd be left out, most casinos have those two plus caribbean stud. Any good 4/8 or 5/10 limit games going? What about tournaments?
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07-12-2010 , 12:28 PM
Tournaments not for several weeks at the least. Biggest limit game at Meadows was 3/6.
No idea on table games.
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07-13-2010 , 08:25 AM
How can you not like their chairs? Swivel, leather, adjustable height... comparable to the Borgata in my opinion
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07-15-2010 , 12:34 PM
Any updates??
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07-16-2010 , 03:32 AM
Looking forward to getting to the Meadows as I live pretty close to there. Want to make it to the Rivers too, but that's further away and such a bitch to get to at times, so it's not a priority.
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07-17-2010 , 10:26 PM
I was at the Meadows on Friday night for the first time. I like the overall atmosphere of the casino and the poker room. Its much easier to get to than rivers, and way fewer shady characters. All of the dealer faces were familiar from wheeling or mountaineer. I played 3/6 LH, which was one of the most boring games ive ever played. I moved to a 1/2 NL table, but the table I was at didnt have an auto shuffler which slowed the game considerably. One dealer, whose name was Chad, was awesome and faster than most dealers with shufflers, the rest were so-so at best. Overall the play wasnt bad, a few regulars and a few fish. Got pretty unlucky all night though, no big hand highest pp was 66, and a got two nut flushes cracked on the river by a board pair full house. Ill def. be back once tournaments start, (word was about two weeks) although the management staff came from wheeling so I hope they left their crappy tourney structure there. There were a ton of players, almost every table going. Even got a 5/10 NL game going for the first time there. The table games there were a joke, they had blackjack, blackjack, and more blackjack tables. They advertised three card poker, and they had one table going, ONE! No 4 card, no let it ride, no Carib. stud. Overall experience wasnt bad, hope I have better luck next time though.
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07-18-2010 , 06:04 AM
Second visit last night, but unfortunately it was a bit of a regression from last week. Although things started very slowly for a Sat night, it did get better as the evening progressed. The floor had problems moving the waiting list all night long, and it didn't seem to be the dealer's fault. The Bravo systems were up to date, and there were plenty of empty seats - and yet there were plenty of players waiting. The suits were definitely the weak link tonight. Disappointing.

Also, the comps are .50/hr; last week they said it was .50, pending state approval for 1.00. This week it's .50, with no mention of this mythical "state approval." Since other casinos are offering more, it appears that the floor may have been less than truthful last week. I wonder why.

Parking is a total mess. Last week the garage was closed, and the surface lots were in turmoil. This week, it was worse. They obviously haven't thought about how to deal with the sudden influx of players (really, this was an unexpected problem?). They assigned security to be sure that nobody drives into the garage when it's marked "closed", and they also jammed SUVs/cars into various parking lot access routes. The result is a form of mass confusion.
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07-18-2010 , 12:48 PM
Finally got to both poker rooms, ok what the heck is 1/3 no limit this game sucked i don't care if i can buy in for $300 or not. I think the room, the dealers and even the parking is so much better at the Meadows, I will play hear every night i play and i have to basic drive past the Rivers to get there. I don't know why people are waiting over an hour to get on the waiting list at the Rivers when you can go to the Meadows get treated better see some really hot cocktail waitresses in very skimpy outfits. Saturday night was a good night even though it broke down to 1/2 capacity at 3am but then again the games got better at that time i started on a 2/4 limit and even that game wasn't bad some chasers but you will have that in limit. the 1/2 NL was great dealers have a very strong grip on the game some have a couple rough edges but they will buff off, not nearly as many floor calls to fix dealer mistakes at the Meadows as the dealers at the Rivers. Really good work Meadows i will be definitely donating my money there and i suggest other who haven't visited definitely visit. Good Times
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07-19-2010 , 08:56 AM
Cashing out on this weekend, the cage was asking the person next to me for their license. I forget the exact reason that was given bc I couldnt really hear her, but something to the effect that for high $$ cashouts driver license is needed.

The person had roughly $1100 being cashed. I have no idea what the purpose of this was, but he was not giving his license.. which I agreed with.

So the cage called upstairs because they said that is required. I didnt stick around to see what happened. Just found it strange they would ask for this.
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07-19-2010 , 11:43 AM
went to the meadows for a little on sunday around 1 pm or so (last sunday). had about 4 people on a 2 5 nl list, next time ill be back here instead of rivers will be when/if they run a decent tourney. saw more eye candy at rivers by a mile 2.
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07-19-2010 , 12:50 PM
I stopped in on Sat about 5:00 only 2-4 limit, 6 1-2 NL's and 1 2-5 NL.

Lots of "interest" but nothing more than that.

Can someone say what else got played Saturday night?

I normally play limit and don't want to play 2/4 ever again unless I am drinking for free!
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