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03-17-2011 , 12:19 PM
If you're not 21, don't bother.
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03-17-2011 , 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by maddog876
I'm thinking of heading down from CT for a weekend since I'm on Spring Break. Not being 21 sucks. I've played a bit at a room in Wilmington. Its above the Buffalo Wild Wings. Anyways, on to the questions.

What kind of turnouts/prizepools are there for the daily tournaments?

Am I hearing right that all the cash games are 10 handed? What about tournaments?

Is there usually a 1/2NL game running 24 hours a day?

Thanks a lot!

You should know that the poker room over the wings is CLOSED! There is a poker room on your way to Delaware park in Claymont just over the state line.
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03-18-2011 , 09:16 AM
Read back a bit, and didn't see an answer (apoligize if I missed it) . . . Anyone know the status of the room swap? Thanks. DCS.
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03-18-2011 , 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by DCSeawolf
Read back a bit, and didn't see an answer (apoligize if I missed it) . . . Anyone know the status of the room swap? Thanks. DCS.
When playing in the bracket challenge, they sounded like it was very near. One of their next cash game promos was being set-up in that room already.
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03-18-2011 , 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by DCSeawolf
Read back a bit, and didn't see an answer (apoligize if I missed it) . . . Anyone know the status of the room swap? Thanks. DCS.
They are waiting until after their classic. That, because they'd like the best room available for the tournament. Look for the change to happen on or about April 18.
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03-18-2011 , 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by layemdown
I'll write some stuff later about the bracket challenge. It was a lot of fun, finishing third in the first round and was not lucky enough to get a wild card into to further rounds. Had a decent session at 1/2 NL, and 48 08 and made a few bucks in the cash games so it was a freeeroll It was a bingo game, no question, but the structure I think, was designed to be enjoyable and for me, it attained that expectation. It made for a very busy room all afternoon and late into the night. If the structure would have been different, it would be still going at noon today. Sold out about 5PM. More than half the players went home before the 5 AM drawing for the final table for the deep stack Venetian Package and more than a couple of wild card's did make the money. They were finally able to table six players after calling about 12 names for the last table, none of which were me.
I wanted to comment on the Brackament as well. It played just as I think everyone thought it would, in that it was a crapshoot. It definitley served its purpose though, as it was very entertaining. I unfortunately ran into a very strong 55 hand with my KK in the 1st round and was done early. Stayed for the whole deal as well, my name was not drawn either for any of the wild cards/Venetian. It was great to see so many people at DP on a Weds night! For me, it was like a walking tour of the last decade of my poker past, as many ghosts were there that I hadn't seen in a while (as well as all just about all the regs that I see every week).


A few suggestions if they are to do this again (which I was told they definitely will):

- I don't think you should be allowed to be drawn as a wild card more than one time. A couple people definitely were, and there were some testy folks because of it.
- I certainly don't think the celebrities should be allowed to be drawn for the wild card entries. Everyone I spoke with would rather have another shot at the tourney, than having another $100 bounty out there. The celebrities probably didn't pay to enter anyway, they shouldn't be allowed re-entry.
- Maybe have a bonus for those who made it to at least round 4 by winning all their tables, rather than by wild card entry. Sort of like a table bounty or something (I only suggest this because my friend bubbled at 13th place, had won every table he was at, and got nothing).

A couple other points to consider if Anthony or any of the DP staff is looking at this (layem, these might be something to bring up to the staff as I prob won't be back up there until next week):

-Having seen what bringing 320 extra players into the fold does, something will have to be done for the Classic when it starts. With the structure the way it is, and the location, I think DP is going to get CRUSHED with entries into the $340's and $550's. I know the WSOPC is going on at the same time, but speaking as someone who would normally play those events, I think many people are going to come to DP for the Classic instead. I want a ring badly, but I'm going to take my chances at DP instead of the WSOPC's, and I believe many others will follow. That being said, there could be 500 players in the first $340 on Saturday, April 2nd. As the rooms stand now, there will be no way to accomodate that amount of people. It doesn't sound like there is a plan in place if this happens. There should be, you don't want to have to turn away players.

- I've also been told that registration for the Classic Events won't start until midnight, March 31st. This HAS to change. No one wants a gigantic line turning away potential players the day of an event, along with a chance of being shut out. I also think DP would be able to get more players by allowing them a chance to register at any time before the events. I know quite a few people would enter (that normally wouldn't) if they could "impulse buy" after a good cash night or regular tourney score.

- 2 days of satellites? You could run single table sats all day if you wanted...

I guess I could be very wrong about the amount of players I think will be coming to the Classic, but from the buzz here in Baltimore and around DP Weds night, this thing should be huge. I just don't want potential new players walking away if things look out of control during what should be a spectacular series.

Just my two cents here, I don't want to come off as bit**y or anything. I'm super excited about the upcoming series, the room switch, and the direction DP Poker is headed in general. As always, the floor staff is fantastic and accomodating. Rich has proven to be a great floor supervisor, keep up the good work!

TLC
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03-18-2011 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BMoreTLC
I wanted to comment on the Brackament as well. It played just as I think everyone thought it would, in that it was a crapshoot. It definitley served its purpose though, as it was very entertaining. I unfortunately ran into a very strong 55 hand with my KK in the 1st round and was done early. Stayed for the whole deal as well, my name was not drawn either for any of the wild cards/Venetian. It was great to see so many people at DP on a Weds night! For me, it was like a walking tour of the last decade of my poker past, as many ghosts were there that I hadn't seen in a while (as well as all just about all the regs that I see every week).


A few suggestions if they are to do this again (which I was told they definitely will):

- I don't think you should be allowed to be drawn as a wild card more than one time. A couple people definitely were, and there were some testy folks because of it.
- I certainly don't think the celebrities should be allowed to be drawn for the wild card entries. Everyone I spoke with would rather have another shot at the tourney, than having another $100 bounty out there. The celebrities probably didn't pay to enter anyway, they shouldn't be allowed re-entry.
- Maybe have a bonus for those who made it to at least round 4 by winning all their tables, rather than by wild card entry. Sort of like a table bounty or something (I only suggest this because my friend bubbled at 13th place, had won every table he was at, and got nothing).

A couple other points to consider if Anthony or any of the DP staff is looking at this (layem, these might be something to bring up to the staff as I prob won't be back up there until next week):

-Having seen what bringing 320 extra players into the fold does, something will have to be done for the Classic when it starts. With the structure the way it is, and the location, I think DP is going to get CRUSHED with entries into the $340's and $550's. I know the WSOPC is going on at the same time, but speaking as someone who would normally play those events, I think many people are going to come to DP for the Classic instead. I want a ring badly, but I'm going to take my chances at DP instead of the WSOPC's, and I believe many others will follow. That being said, there could be 500 players in the first $340 on Saturday, April 2nd. As the rooms stand now, there will be no way to accomodate that amount of people. It doesn't sound like there is a plan in place if this happens. There should be, you don't want to have to turn away players.

- I've also been told that registration for the Classic Events won't start until midnight, March 31st. This HAS to change. No one wants a gigantic line turning away potential players the day of an event, along with a chance of being shut out. I also think DP would be able to get more players by allowing them a chance to register at any time before the events. I know quite a few people would enter (that normally wouldn't) if they could "impulse buy" after a good cash night or regular tourney score.

- 2 days of satellites? You could run single table sats all day if you wanted...

I guess I could be very wrong about the amount of players I think will be coming to the Classic, but from the buzz here in Baltimore and around DP Weds night, this thing should be huge. I just don't want potential new players walking away if things look out of control during what should be a spectacular series.

Just my two cents here, I don't want to come off as bit**y or anything. I'm super excited about the upcoming series, the room switch, and the direction DP Poker is headed in general. As always, the floor staff is fantastic and accomodating. Rich has proven to be a great floor supervisor, keep up the good work!

TLC
Great Post and better suggestions! I know Anthony is away for five days on vacation, but I'm going to make sure "number two" see's what you've said. In case he's still asleep after his 24 hour shift, I'm emailing him your post since I'm playing in a home game tonight and won't be in the room until at least tomorrow or Sunday.
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03-18-2011 , 05:52 PM
Those $25.00 satellites were an enormous hit on Weds. They ran every couple of minutes from noon on, it seemed like. I just called over to the room and "number two" was not in, but I asked when registration would start for the classic and was given the same answer as you of March 31. I agree that it's a mistake to hold it off for another two weeks. In fact, I'm not sure of the sense of it. I did email your post to him and I know he'll read it. Anthony is at spring training I hear, so they'll need to talk about it. But, why wouldn't they run satellites for some events now? It's not like on a Friday or Saturday, even with the tournaments, they'll be full spread at 45 tables. It was a zoo in there Weds, with long lists at 5:30 and they still needed to close tables to get 32 open. What surprised me was how many tables were still running cash when 320 players sat to play the tourney. They used 7 tables in the cash room and were full spread at 13. i believe it's the first time that every one of their 45 tables were spread at the same time.

I'm one of those guys who might buy into a tourney after a good night, when I might not come over just to play it.
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03-18-2011 , 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by layemdown
Those $25.00 satellites were an enormous hit on Weds. They ran every couple of minutes from noon on, it seemed like. I just called over to the room and "number two" was not in, but I asked when registration would start for the classic and was given the same answer as you of March 31. I agree that it's a mistake to hold it off for another two weeks. In fact, I'm not sure of the sense of it. I did email your post to him and I know he'll read it. Anthony is at spring training I hear, so they'll need to talk about it. But, why wouldn't they run satellites for some events now? It's not like on a Friday or Saturday, even with the tournaments, they'll be full spread at 45 tables. It was a zoo in there Weds, with long lists at 5:30 and they still needed to close tables to get 32 open. What surprised me was how many tables were still running cash when 320 players sat to play the tourney. They used 7 tables in the cash room and were full spread at 13. i believe it's the first time that every one of their 45 tables were spread at the same time.

I'm one of those guys who might buy into a tourney after a good night, when I might not come over just to play it.
$25 satellites??? Are they running those for the classic?
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03-18-2011 , 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by layemdown
Great Post and better suggestions! I know Anthony is away for five days on vacation, but I'm going to make sure "number two" see's what you've said. In case he's still asleep after his 24 hour shift, I'm emailing him your post since I'm playing in a home game tonight and won't be in the room until at least tomorrow or Sunday.
I have a few comments about the tourny as well. Heavily in favor of this idea from above:
Maybe have a bonus for those who made it to at least round 4 by winning all their tables, rather than by wild card entry. Sort of like a table bounty or something (I only suggest this because my friend bubbled at 13th place, had won every table he was at, and got nothing).

I was at the table when this player went out, and we all felt bad for him. Its the game, but still at least a double buy-in payout was in order for shooting out 4 tables to make it as far he did. The entire final 12 of us players were wild cards. Also, why not pay top 24 instead of 12 in a 320 entry event? The payouts were extremely toooo top heavy.

My big question: why was the prize pool only $37,010? We got no answer to this question. 320 entries (which did sell out) x the $125 (of the $150 total) entry = $40,000 even. Where'd that $3,000 go? If it was towards them attracting the D list celebs that no poker players cared about, it was such a waste. The celebs were loud, drunk, obnoxious, and time wasted away from poker anyways. With how great of a room and structure this event was, it would have sold out w/o them involved.

All "first time doing this" issues aside, the floor people did work their asses off, did the best they could, and were very fun and professional. I got to BS with them a lil bit while the Venetian prize package table played out, and heard how some were working 24 hours in order for this event to go off. Very well done guys.
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03-19-2011 , 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by NoGoodToday
I have a few comments about the tourny as well. Heavily in favor of this idea from above:
Maybe have a bonus for those who made it to at least round 4 by winning all their tables, rather than by wild card entry. Sort of like a table bounty or something (I only suggest this because my friend bubbled at 13th place, had won every table he was at, and got nothing).

I was at the table when this player went out, and we all felt bad for him. Its the game, but still at least a double buy-in payout was in order for shooting out 4 tables to make it as far he did. The entire final 12 of us players were wild cards. Also, why not pay top 24 instead of 12 in a 320 entry event? The payouts were extremely toooo top heavy.

My big question: why was the prize pool only $37,010? We got no answer to this question. 320 entries (which did sell out) x the $125 (of the $150 total) entry = $40,000 even. Where'd that $3,000 go? If it was towards them attracting the D list celebs that no poker players cared about, it was such a waste. The celebs were loud, drunk, obnoxious, and time wasted away from poker anyways. With how great of a room and structure this event was, it would have sold out w/o them involved.

All "first time doing this" issues aside, the floor people did work their asses off, did the best they could, and were very fun and professional. I got to BS with them a lil bit while the Venetian prize package table played out, and heard how some were working 24 hours in order for this event to go off. Very well done guys.
Ill try to get an answer to the prize pool question as well. could some of it have been for the Venetian package with the $5000 plus vig buy in, plus 6 nights, air fare and spending money was rumored to be worth about 8K
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03-19-2011 , 03:11 AM
They said the ven package was not from pool

So it doesn't add up
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03-19-2011 , 03:14 AM
I was at the 1/2 table with "bubble boy" and you guys I believe. I was wearing a party poker hat
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03-19-2011 , 09:07 AM
For their usual $150 buy in tournaments, $119 ends up in the prize pool. That's $38,080. The difference of $1070 is the classic main event buy in?
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03-19-2011 , 09:51 AM
It's a question worth asking. I know some where questioning a payout in an overlay recently at the Borgata 500K event, wherer payouts were 488K. It really should be 500K or in this case 40K. I'd guess that the 1070.00 event package must have come from the prize pool though....but, it's a guess. But, with the trip package, it's still a 47K payout with a 40K prize pool.

I think you might be right. The seats given to WIP were comp't and not included in the pool. The more I think about it, it has to be.
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03-19-2011 , 10:18 AM
Also, could the $100 "celebrity" bounties have come from the prize pool as well?

If you add the $800 for bounties (8 celebrities), $1070 tourney entry, and the prize pool, we get $38,880. Then if you assume that the celebrities didn't "pay" to play, that's an additional $125 * 8 = $1,000, giving a total of $39,880.

Note: I actually forgot the total number of "celebrities." (Wasn't paying attention there weren't any at my table and I've never heard of them before.) Does anyone remember this number?
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03-19-2011 , 05:22 PM
I think 6
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03-19-2011 , 08:16 PM
About how many runners has DP been getting for the noon tournament on Sundays? I searched the thread but couldn't find any recent estimates. Thanks!
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03-19-2011 , 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by punkass
For their usual $150 buy in tournaments, $119 ends up in the prize pool. That's $38,080. The difference of $1070 is the classic main event buy in?
The flyer listed this tourny as $125+20(house)+5(dealers). Thats where I got the $125 number. Also, the $1070 April classic and Venetian seats were to be additional prize promo's, thus their inability to be transferred (as told to us by floor).
I believe it was 6 celebs in the event. 5 WIP people and Hugh Douglas.
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03-19-2011 , 09:30 PM
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About how many runners has DP been getting for the noon tournament on Sundays? I searched the thread but couldn't find any recent estimates. Thanks!
A guess for tomorrow......110 to 130.
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03-20-2011 , 10:31 AM
Played my first Omaha/8 game last night at DP. Had a great time, even if I left all my cash at the table. One guy at the table says he lives mins from Parx but comes to DP because there is better action and atmosphere. If I followed his lead when he left the table I would have been up for the night. Instead I sat at the table with four rock solid players that taught me some Omaha/8 lessons.

When I first sat down, the table was had about 5 loose player that lead all the raising in the pots I wanted in. One guy got mad at me for slow playing my straight flush, but I got all my money in because 2 other guys were running it up. If I had left for the 11:00 tourney, as originally planned, it would have been a freeroll. I'll definitely play this again, but I'll just need be of whom I'm playing next time.
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03-20-2011 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by layemdown
A guess for tomorrow......110 to 130.
Thanks!

I didn't end up making it today, but I'm already looking forward to the next time I might be able to make it.
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03-20-2011 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NoGoodToday
The flyer listed this tourny as $125+20(house)+5(dealers). Thats where I got the $125 number. Also, the $1070 April classic and Venetian seats were to be additional prize promo's, thus their inability to be transferred (as told to us by floor).
I believe it was 6 celebs in the event. 5 WIP people and Hugh Douglas.
This is what they list for their regular $150 tourneys, but $119 is what ends up in the prize pool for those as well. I think when asked about the discrepancy, they say they take out a little more for the staff.
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03-20-2011 , 02:56 PM
I have to say that I really enjoyed Bracket Madness at Delaware Park last Wednesday. It wasn’t just another night of poker, as much as it was a fun 14 hour poker-thon. I planned for it, slept late for it, arrived at DP at 2:00 PM and quietly slipped into my home at almost 6AM red eyed and tired. I didn’t win anything. Not a wild card and not a table, having finished third at my table in round one. But it was a fun, crowded night and poker for the causal player at its best. In the end, that’s why I play the game…… for the fun. The idea of a bracket challenge on the eve of March Madness was born of Delaware Park management.... as far I know..... and it was certainly unique. I knew going in that the $150.00 buy-in was money spent on a crap shoot, but that’s what crap shoots are. A roll of the dice, a little gasp of the breath and hope for the best. I like the game of craps and would play it more, if I didn’t lose as often as I do. It was nice to see so many people in the room and I wasn’t surprised that the house was packed. Disappointingly, I didn’t find the cash players as weak as I hoped to. But, I wasn’t table hopping either which may have been the road that I should have traveled. I won a little before the game started, won a really tiny amount in 4/8 08 and then got involved in a large action 1/2 NL game in the tournament room from 2 to after 5AM, where I just couldn’t get anything going. A bad move on my part with QQ wiped out most of my cash winnings, but that happens sometimes. I’d explain the hand, but nobody really cares. Suffice to say that when I act like a bonehead, I get bonehead results. I know “number two” (You know, number two, if you registered on two plus two I wouldn’t have to refer to you like I’m a starship captain)….anyway he went to work on Tuesday early and was still there when I left. He may have violated some work law with that shift. Anthony was probably there as long too. Thanks guys for putting on a really excellent event.

I didn’t make it over to DP this weekend, as I’ve been working on a project and watching basketball. UNC just finished a good game against Washington, but Temple and Villanova disappoint.

I believe there have been some really good suggestions on this thread regarding the next time DP hosts something like this. I hope they listen. I also hope they open up registration for the "classic" soon, like before March 31.
I heard Michael Phelps was playing in the room Friday night at 2/5. He's a great swimmer, but don't know much about how well he plays poker. I did hear he was up a couple of K, so he's either good, lucky or maybe a little of both.

BTW, it was 8 celebrities in the event. One in each of the two table brackets.
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03-20-2011 , 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by punkass
This is what they list for their regular $150 tourneys, but $119 is what ends up in the prize pool for those as well. I think when asked about the discrepancy, they say they take out a little more for the staff.
As much as I have liked everything else at DP, thats just unnacceptable to me. Advertising an incorrect buy-in?
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