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Value Shove Or Check Behind In A KO Value Shove Or Check Behind In A KO

01-29-2016 , 11:32 AM
PokerStars - $2.30+$2.30+$0.40|15/30 Ante 4 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 3,330 (VPIP: 35.71, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 14)
BTN: 1,410 (VPIP: 14.02, PFR: 7.92, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 108)
SB: 1,703 (VPIP: 16.49, PFR: 14.27, 3Bet Preflop: 8.10, Hands: 1,157)
BB: 1,183 (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
UTG: 1,448 (VPIP: 56.36, PFR: 23.42, 3Bet Preflop: 9.46, Hands: 165)
UTG+1: 2,786 (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
Hero (MP): 1,708
MP+1: 1,554 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)

8 players post ante of 4, SB posts SB 15, BB posts BB 30

Pre Flop: (pot: 77) Hero has A J

fold, UTG+1 calls 30, Hero raises to 120, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls 90

Flop: (317, 2 players) T A 2
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets 158, UTG+1 calls 158

Turn: (633, 2 players) K
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets 316, UTG+1 calls 316

River: (1,265, 2 players) 9
UTG+1 checks, [color=red]Hero ???
01-29-2016 , 01:44 PM
Hero checks back if he thinks UTG+1 traps
Hero bets if he feels UTG+1 didn't make 2pairs or better

If he hit 2 pair i don't think he'd trap 'cause he limp/called so imo he may not know to play proper (at least this is how i think). I think he would only do this with QJ.

I'd shove. I think he has something like KQ, KJ
01-30-2016 , 08:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Theodorus20
Hero checks back if he thinks UTG+1 traps
Hero bets if he feels UTG+1 didn't make 2pairs or better

If he hit 2 pair i don't think he'd trap 'cause he limp/called so imo he may not know to play proper (at least this is how i think). I think he would only do this with QJ.

I'd shove. I think he has something like KQ, KJ

I personaly think that he would never call a shove without 2P or better so either you can bet véééry little on river to get some value or just checkback i myself would just checkback on this spot .

But then again i might by missing tons of value by that
01-30-2016 , 06:55 PM
If he has a missed flush or straight draw then there would be no value to get by betting river. Any set or two pair hand may feel it's a good spot for trapping since you've bet the last two cards. Further if you bet small there's the risk of villain smelling weakness - although 60/10 pfr/vpip over 10 hands doesn't look like the type.

All in all: maybe a check
01-31-2016 , 02:42 PM
I think this is a shove - though it would have been set up more nicely if you'd bet 3/4 pot on the turn.

The river is functionally a blank and I think we'd have heard from 2-pair or better earlier in the hand (it's true that they would check to us on the river, but I think they raise flop or turn on this wet board).

Basically he's thin in terms of hands that beat us and in terms of worse hands that can call, but I think he has still has worse hands that can call, and really no obvious ones that beat us though obv he will show up with them from time to time.
02-01-2016 , 07:42 PM
I check behind. I'm not sure what worse hand calls, or better hand folds.

      
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