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TT in MP vs. 3x raise - well played?

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02-23-2015 , 10:04 AM

doebrane

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 104

Find myself not knowing what to do in these situations, i.e., middle pp in middle position vs 1 raise

No Limit Hold'em Tournament T10/T20
Buy-in: $2.28+$0.22 USD Hold'em No Limit
PokerStars
9 players

Stacks:
UTG - UTG (T1,590)
UTG+1 - UTG+1 (T1,500)
UTG+2 - Hero (T1,500)
MP - MP (T1,440)
MP2 - MP2 (T1,500)
CO - CO (T1,490)
BTN - BTN (T1,500)
SB - SB (T1,480)
BB - BB (T1,500)

Preflop: (T30, 9 players) Hero is UTG+2 with T

1 fold, UTG+1 raises to T60, Hero calls T60, 6 folds

Flop: A

(T150, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets T78, Hero calls T78

Turn: 8

(T306, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets T159, Hero calls T159

River: 2

(T624, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets T324, 1 fold, Uncalled bet of T324 returned to UTG+1

Total Pot: T624

UTG+1 wins T624

02-23-2015 , 11:07 AM

LektorAJ

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 7,826

I think I would have played it exactly the same. If you don't pick up the straight draw I would fold turn.

02-23-2015 , 12:20 PM

Kurt Beefstick

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 213

What Lektor said, played it fine.
Triple barrel says you are likely beat and youre not getting V to fold an ace.

02-23-2015 , 01:33 PM

doebrane

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 104

ok thanks. was wondering if there was possibility of 3bet but on second thought... no. maybe raising turn semi-bluff to represent straight or double pair Ax?

02-23-2015 , 03:30 PM

LektorAJ

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 7,826

3-bet isn't horrible but I wouldn't against a strong UTG opening range.

I don't think the turn check-raise would work. It looks too much like you picked up a straight draw rather than an actual straight.

02-23-2015 , 10:16 PM

Weetam

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 215

I think opening range from UTG+1 is something like 77+, ATs+, KJs+, AJo+.

Versus this preflop range TT can be fold on the flop in most cases. You also don't have backdoor flush draw.
If you are calling preflop with AK and some AQ, AJs you won't have problems with defending on this flop anyway.
I think QQ is borderline here if you have it in your range.

As played I'm calling the turn, mostly because of draw, planning to fold on the river unimproved.

02-24-2015 , 02:32 PM

mktpppr

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 446

nh wp, +1 what everyone else said

02-28-2015 , 01:22 AM

sw_emigre

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,671

I vote for folding on the flop. His range is mostly bigger pairs and aces, so we're pretty well crushed when A hits the board.

As to your question about how to play hands like TT, in the first 3 levels or so, personally I play fit or fold, unless my PP is an overpair to the flop, then I'll peel.

03-01-2015 , 12:05 AM

kamitis

adept

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,080

Vs later position open i would almost never fold TT on this flop as people is over cbetting A high boards.
Vs utg open we should be more careful as it really tight range, it kinda ugly spot. I would not hate fold flop. With backdoor flushdraw TT i think there is reason to call.

03-02-2015 , 01:28 PM

#10

nomalice

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 1,653

well played... +1 with Lector,it's fold on turn w/o straight draw
preflop 3b is ok too but it is mostly dependent of the type of player that is opening,and u can play easy postflop with TT

i wouldnt ever fold on this sized flop cbet,there is no sense in playing TT for set mining in this kinda spot

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