Pokerstars 90 man turbo SnG
Villain was pretty passive 26/0 over 19 hands.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $300(BB) ante $25 Replayer
SB ($3,815)
Hero ($3,455)
UTG ($4,213)
UTG+1 ($1,395)
UTG+2 ($4,211)
CO ($5,027)
BTN ($1,621)

Dealt to Hero J Q

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB calls $150, Hero raises to $3,430 (AI), SB calls $3,130

Don't think shoving is very good, generally think it's more profitable to raise the fish and play in position. Probs 2.75-3.75xing him and c-betting 90%, he might limp/call Ax,Kx & small pairs and then we're getting it in bad and he has us covered.

Standard

how is it standard? Shoving to win 1BB. Are we winning this 1BB 11times to balance the times he calls with Ax and PP and we lose?

The shove is completely, totally standard, with 11BB.

It is more than 1 BB he stands to win. There is a BB, a SB, a complete and lotsa antes.

Also remember that QJs, plays pretty well against Ax, Kx and small PPs, so a call is not a catastrophe either.

Yes, I've been rethinking it and chatting with a poker friend of mine who's a $8 and $15/180 reg and he states that they fold 9/10 here, so we are winning the 2bb+antes 9/10times then the 1/10 times we're called, we have around 35-45equity and therefore pushes it way over into standard/long term +ev.

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You suck, your ROI is negative.

























just kidding, I give terribad advice too xD
with JQ you are generally about 45% to win (flip) even if called by A10o-
as you may know when called by lower PPs we are flipping. So if he folds 2 out of 3 times and he calls with pocket pairs we will:
loose 1 out of 6 times
we will double up 1 out of 6 times
we will win 2BBs +antes (~27% of our stack) 2 out of 3 times.
You can see in this example that this is +cEV and +$EV.
In this actual situation those are not the odds but are somewhat better in terms of fold equity and somewhat worst in terms of showdown.
Cheers.

As to the hand, you should not consider pushing on BB against someone who defends his SB the same as pushing on SB. Although the SNGwiz might not consider that SB might be an idiot that will call any **** because "the pot odds are great".
I would say push but I may be wrong because of the stats, I am not good at reading stats and don't know how we should act against a 26/0.

Wait I do. This guy limped 5 hands out of 19 on this stage of the tourney.
[X]Idiot
This doesn't even mean he will not be raising his strong hands. Upon further inspection his stats make him an idiot that you have to push against.

ez shove, not even close. im shoving 50% of hands over SB limps readless, 85% from SB with 11bbs (antes)

According to my math we are shoving to win 775t.

u arent shoving to win 1bb wth lol, we are shoving to immediately win 2.5ish BBs, when occasionally called we have decent equity (esp with qjs) and his range is weighted towards crap basically

this is the biggest snap ever
id have to have a good reason to not jam 32o here vs. a random/unknown

your M~6, against a random limping donk your QJs is a monster, wouldn't think even twice about it.
Afraid of Ax? If he has Ax and calls, then he calls, you have about 43% equity (pokerstove) against his Ax limp/call range (A2+ suited and not). It's all about making good decisions, and shoving is the only good decision I can think of.

wp mate

What is his limping range? What is his callingrange?
Will he play limp/call very often?
You can answer that questions yourself an will be surprised by the results.

Didnt see him trapping here with a strong hand, like i said very passive SB !
I did jamm it pretty quickly, but when i reviewed it later in SnG wizz it said to chk. That why i posted this question here.

THANK you all for the feedback !!!!

Did u adjust ranges in wiz?

+1000000000

SnG wiz is just a tool that does math for you

basically only not jamming if complete = monster.

Jamming all day here

no i didnt.
Just looked up the hand and clicked " run hand in SnG wizz" .
Havent adjusted ranges.

+1
i shove ATC here unless reads suggests he is trapping or is a reg

Well, then results are useless imo! If u dont adjust ranges every hand u make in wiz u end up making a lot of mistakes. its really important u adjust ranges!

Please make sure u adjust ranges everytime for each hand u do in wizz!

Else it may end up costing u money!

yeah using wiz and just using wiz defaults is basically worse than not using it lol

This.

There are no two cards I don't ship here unless I've got a note that my opponent's limp calling (which can -limp calling - be really effective with a lot of your range, esp vs regs). This is a stupidly profitable spot in MTT SnGs.

Get it in 100%. He folds like 8/10 probably and you have 40%+ equity even if called by his what ever.

I will look into Wizz more detailed in the future.
And post the ranges accordingly that i used.

Thx for the feedback on my post!