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QTo Vs Three Aggressive Regs QTo Vs Three Aggressive Regs

11-21-2016 , 06:15 AM
Do we like folding, shoving raise/calling or raise folding?
Button 3bets steals 24% over 3K hands
Small 3bets steal 15% over 1K hands
Big 3bets steal 20% over 200 hands

PokerStars - 100/200 Ante 20 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+2: 843 (VPIP: 18.44, PFR: 16.62, 3Bet Preflop: 8.24, Hands: 1,072)
Hero (CO): 3,668
BTN: 2,329 (VPIP: 19.04, PFR: 16.98, 3Bet Preflop: 7.96, Hands: 3,304)
SB: 2,458 (VPIP: 18.86, PFR: 14.33, 3Bet Preflop: 9.20, Hands: 1,115)
BB: 2,413 (VPIP: 20.93, PFR: 12.66, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 87)
UTG: 2,265 (VPIP: 17.46, PFR: 14.43, 3Bet Preflop: 7.17, Hands: 1,362)
UTG+1: 2,230 (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
MP: 3,876 (VPIP: 13.74, PFR: 8.62, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 131)
MP+1: 1,048 (VPIP: 20.45, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 44)

9 players post ante of 20, SB posts SB 100, BB posts BB 200

Pre Flop: (pot: 480) Hero has Q T

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero?
11-21-2016 , 06:24 AM
fold > shove > r/f
11-21-2016 , 06:55 AM
What do villains know/think about our open jamming range?

As a default I would say:

shove > fold > r/f > r/c

But if we've been jamming a lot or had the bottom of our range called and seen then it could easily be a fold.

I don't have a min-raise range at all at CSI 5 though, so I would also play AA and KK as an open-jam if that makes any difference.
11-21-2016 , 07:29 AM
probably break even jam,if guys calling off correctly,but 3 agrro regs,1 for sure will make mistake and call off wider then they should,it happens a lot in my limit games.

like LektorAJ said,our image plays as well
don't think its mistake fold or shove,i don't like raise option with that hand/stacks/reads
11-23-2016 , 02:00 AM
Folding is optimal imo vs 3 aggro regs. R/f is lighting chips on fire as they 3bet shove heaps. Shoving vs 3 regs with a b/e shoving hand is also not a great option.
11-23-2016 , 06:50 PM
Limp
11-24-2016 , 11:29 AM
fold
11-24-2016 , 08:13 PM
The effective stack is 12BB, not 18. So, rip it in.

If the effective stack were 18BB, I would prefer a fold.
11-29-2016 , 05:35 PM
You don't even think about playing this hand there. How can players tells you to shove with 16bb there. You will certainly have a much better spot to put your chips in. It's insta fold vs aggro there.
11-29-2016 , 05:46 PM
fold for me.
There calling ranges our going to have our hand crushed. when called we are only going to have one live under card pretty often.
11-29-2016 , 05:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by balls'n'all
Limp
Interesting.

I 'never' open limp from the co. What is your open limp range here and how much of it are you folding/calling/ shoving over the iso's.

I cant see how its good to limp here. they are aggressive and we are going to get iso'd plenty to which I assume we are going to have to fold. But just because I don't understand the line doesn't mean I'm closing my mind of to the possibility.

Can you please elaborate?
11-29-2016 , 07:18 PM
Probably folding this with those reads. We have an ok stack and the reward doesn't really justify the risk. Shove and lose really hurts the utility of our stack.
12-01-2016 , 02:24 PM
vs aggros with those stack sizes I believe I fold here.
12-03-2016 , 11:02 AM
12 blinds effective you can easily shove this. I think raising is bad because you're just asking to get jammed on. QT is probably the bottom, maybe Q9, but I'm shoving this.
12-05-2016 , 09:24 AM
i also saw it was 17... with 12bbs just shove everytime

      
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