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08-24-2011 , 09:03 AM

besmod

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 172

I just read this comment and it got me thinking hard;

Quote:

He's 9/6 over all his hands, that doesn't mean he's pushing some absurdly tight range here. You aren't way behind anyone's range here, or just about anyone.

This was about a 3BB push from UTG+1.

How important are the stats of a villain like 9/6 when his stack is so short? If we conclude that very little attention should be paid to stats when stacksizes are short, do we just look at stack size?

Basically I am asking for some advice on how you put your villains on their ranges...

08-24-2011 , 11:42 AM

4xTraderVn

newbie

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 29

well,

These are stats of nits or mass tabling regs. They are pretty nitty until they get the bubble and FT. Then they open their game and these stats should be way too wider... Especially with 3BB stack...

So, in that particular case, stats are only one small fraction of the whole picture. You need more pieces of info to draw the whole picture...

08-24-2011 , 11:45 AM

Glitlr

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 4,682

Quote:

Originally Posted by besmod

I just read this comment and it got me thinking hard;

This was about a 3BB push from UTG+1.

How important are the stats of a villain like 9/6 when his stack is so short? If we conclude that very little attention should be paid to stats when stacksizes are short, do we just look at stack size?

Basically I am asking for some advice on how you put your villains on their ranges...

ya i recognize this, Tomodak said it. the point is that you have to think of 9/6 (over x amount of hands)...but where are these hands from? Just cause you had a high girly voice as a kid doesn't mean you can't have a man's voice now right? am i relating HUD stats to puberty? perhaps lol. basically, something usually changes in a player who is 9/6. 9/6 is from early game usually, and they will change and get more aggro UNLESS it's just the nittiest of the nit nit nits. but that usually isnt the case.

08-24-2011 , 02:30 PM

sayakmitra

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 635

Stack sizes are more important than stats when bbs are in between 3-20 and most of the player lie in this domain(i.e., at very end game). but 9/6 stat usually said in this spot he would be very wide from UTG/UTG+1/MP1/MP2 but not ******ed like some random who can shove here with 72o, 94o.
And far more wide in CO/BTN/SB in an unopened pot.

08-24-2011 , 04:49 PM

besmod

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 172

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glitlr

Just cause you had a high girly voice as a kid doesn't mean you can't have a man's voice now right?

10 points for comparing HUD stats to puberty!

Back on topic now. In most 45 SNGs I get about 20-40 hands on someone, then tables change or people bust. What then if we are getting stats on a regular over a few games and these stats are a mixture of low and high blind play... Am I right they are even more unreliable?

Maybe there is a way of filtering HUD stats by blind levels? ...off to use the search function.

08-25-2011 , 02:58 AM

sayakmitra

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 635

yep you can do that with holdem manager.. go to tourny HUD and configure it for different BB stack. you can actually have a stat how they play with 1-12BB and 20+BB.

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