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View Poll Results: 18 man final table approximates closely to 9 man STT?
Yes
235 34.92%
No
413 61.37%
Other (post comment)
25 3.71%

07-10-2010 , 12:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by martin_malin
top 60% maybe ?
sounds to tight to me
07-10-2010 , 12:49 PM
I'm a 45s nit so you're prolly right
07-10-2010 , 04:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nejuokai
Poker Stars $4.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: t1370 M = 45.67
BTN: t1460 M = 48.67
SB: t1560 M = 52
Hero (BB): t1390 M = 46.33
UTG: t1896 M = 63.20
UTG+1: t1574 M = 52.47
UTG+2: t1150 M = 38.33
MP1: t1500 M = 50
MP2: t3090 M = 103

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with T T
UTG calls t20, 3 folds, MP2 calls t20, 3 folds, Hero raises to t100, UTG calls t80, 1 fold

Flop: (t230) 2 J T (2 players)
Hero bets t200, UTG calls t200

Turn: (t630) A (2 players)
Hero bets t450, UTG raises to t1596 all in, Hero calls t640 all in

River: (t2810) Q (2 players - 2 are all in)

Should I check the turn in case he got there with straight or bet/get it in on the turn 100% of the time?
Villain can have hands like 22, AT+ (and probably worse aces), and JT (and probably worse jacks). Bet your chips for value!
07-10-2010 , 05:43 PM
KK 3-way on an A-high flop,gets bet OTR;bettor has limped the past hand,no stats or reads on him. Spain flag avatar

How's my sizing pre ? Anyone shoves turn or river ? Do we c/f flop (if someone had bet),turn ? Call now ?

Poker Stars $3.00+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP2: t2140 M = 71.33
CO: t1360 M = 45.33
BTN: t1340 M = 44.67
Hero (SB): t1480 M = 49.33
BB: t1460 M = 48.67
UTG: t1500 M = 50
UTG+1: t1220 M = 40.67
UTG+2: t1500 M = 50
MP1: t1500 M = 50

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is SB with K K
UTG raises to t60, 3 folds, MP2 calls t60, CO calls t60, BTN calls t60, Hero raises to t360, 2 folds, MP2 calls t300, CO calls t300, 1 fold

Flop: (t1220) 8 A T (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO checks

Turn: (t1220) 6 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO checks

River: (t1220) 4 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t500, CO folds, Hero

Last edited by ok1989; 07-10-2010 at 05:45 PM. Reason: 45man Turbo SNG FWIW
07-10-2010 , 05:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by martin_malin
top 60% maybe ?
You should be shoving A\TC for sure next hand. The blinds will be at 2/4k with like 250 ante, you will have BB and an M of about 2. No reason to wait any longer.
07-10-2010 , 05:59 PM
Villain is 40/0 over 5 hands.

How's my line ?

Poker Stars $3.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP1: t1330 M = 44.33
MP2: t1110 M = 37
CO: t1470 M = 49
BTN: t1410 M = 47
SB: t1440 M = 48
BB: t3070 M = 102.33
UTG: t640 M = 21.33
Hero (UTG+1): t1500 M = 50
UTG+2: t3030 M = 101

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is UTG+1 with J J
1 fold, Hero raises to t60, 5 folds, SB calls t50, 1 fold

Flop: (t140) T Q 3 (2 players)
SB bets t80, Hero calls t80

Turn: (t300) T (2 players)
SB bets t100, Hero calls t100

River: (t500) T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks
07-10-2010 , 06:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blind squirrel
Stars down for someone else too?
It was having issues about 10 minutes. Was down for almost 5 minutes for me.
I wrapped up my session, didn't want to take any more chances after that.
07-10-2010 , 06:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ok1989
KK 3-way on an A-high flop,gets bet OTR;bettor has limped the past hand,no stats or reads on him. Spain flag avatar

How's my sizing pre ? Anyone shoves turn or river ? Do we c/f flop (if someone had bet),turn ? Call now ?

Poker Stars $3.00+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP2: t2140 M = 71.33
CO: t1360 M = 45.33
BTN: t1340 M = 44.67
Hero (SB): t1480 M = 49.33
BB: t1460 M = 48.67
UTG: t1500 M = 50
UTG+1: t1220 M = 40.67
UTG+2: t1500 M = 50
MP1: t1500 M = 50

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is SB with K K
UTG raises to t60, 3 folds, MP2 calls t60, CO calls t60, BTN calls t60, Hero raises to t360, 2 folds, MP2 calls t300, CO calls t300, 1 fold

Flop: (t1220) 8 A T (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO checks

Turn: (t1220) 6 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO checks

River: (t1220) 4 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t500, CO folds, Hero
I snap call a 4 river but here it's close. Usually someone would've bet Ax by the turn with a FD on board. I feel he either floped/turned aces up or he's betting 2nd pair or worse. He can't have many high combo since we have the K. Considering the price you're getting I really don't mind calling or folding...but I prolly pay him off .

I think I like bet/folding 250 on the turn.
07-10-2010 , 06:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shadowdodger
You should be shoving A\TC for sure next hand. The blinds will be at 2/4k with like 250 ante, you will have BB and an M of about 2. No reason to wait any longer.
yeah totally agree, missed the part where he said blinds were going up.
07-10-2010 , 06:21 PM
12 left in 2/180

Rate my shove and his call plz ...


Poker Stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t800/t1600 Blinds + t150 - 6 players
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BB: t8765 M = 2.66
UTG: t13327 M = 4.04
Hero (MP): t8160 M = 2.47
CO: t52812 M = 16.00
BTN: t9490 M = 2.88
SB: t12401 M = 3.76

Pre Flop: (t3300) Hero is MP with J Q
1 fold, Hero raises to t8000, 2 folds, SB calls t7200 with A 7
07-10-2010 , 06:25 PM
You're shoving a premium in this spot and I understand why he made the call.

Standart.
07-10-2010 , 06:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tiftuk
12 left in 2/180

Rate my shove and his call plz ...


Poker Stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t800/t1600 Blinds + t150 - 6 players
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BB: t8765 M = 2.66
UTG: t13327 M = 4.04
Hero (MP): t8160 M = 2.47
CO: t52812 M = 16.00
BTN: t9490 M = 2.88
SB: t12401 M = 3.76

Pre Flop: (t3300) Hero is MP with J Q
1 fold, Hero raises to t8000, 2 folds, SB calls t7200 with A 7
Love the call.
I would push, and the number seem to agree with me.
07-10-2010 , 06:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ok1989
Villain is 40/0 over 5 hands.

How's my line ?

Poker Stars $3.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP1: t1330 M = 44.33
MP2: t1110 M = 37
CO: t1470 M = 49
BTN: t1410 M = 47
SB: t1440 M = 48
BB: t3070 M = 102.33
UTG: t640 M = 21.33
Hero (UTG+1): t1500 M = 50
UTG+2: t3030 M = 101

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is UTG+1 with J J
1 fold, Hero raises to t60, 5 folds, SB calls t50, 1 fold

Flop: (t140) T Q 3 (2 players)
SB bets t80, Hero calls t80

Turn: (t300) T (2 players)
SB bets t100, Hero calls t100

River: (t500) T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks
looks good, I feel we're good most of the time on the river but it's hard to get value from AJ or clubs. Nothing wrong in bumping it to 80-100 pre btw.
07-10-2010 , 06:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by martin_malin
I snap call a 4 river but here it's close. Usually someone would've bet Ax by the turn with a FD on board. I feel he either floped/turned aces up or he's betting 2nd pair or worse. He can't have many high combo since we have the K. Considering the price you're getting I really don't mind calling or folding...but I prolly pay him off .

I think I like bet/folding 250 on the turn.
Wow ,really like 1/5 pot only ??
07-10-2010 , 06:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ok1989
Wow ,really like 1/5 pot only ??
hum yeah, looks goofy I know but it gets value from crappy hands that caught a piece like a gutshot/FD/Tx and at the same time we can get away from a slowplayed Ace.
07-10-2010 , 07:00 PM
Bet or check?

Poker Stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: t1500 M = 50
BTN: t1490 M = 49.67
SB: t1480 M = 49.33
Hero (BB): t1500 M = 50
UTG: t1500 M = 50
UTG+1: t1500 M = 50
UTG+2: t1500 M = 50
MP1: t1530 M = 51
MP2: t1500 M = 50

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with J 8
UTG calls t20, UTG+1 calls t20, 2 folds, MP2 calls t20, 1 fold, BTN calls t20, SB calls t10, Hero checks

Flop: (t120) 2 8 2 (6 players)
SB checks, Hero
07-10-2010 , 07:10 PM
I would bet 70 but I won't put another chip in.
07-10-2010 , 07:47 PM
check
07-10-2010 , 07:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blind squirrel
Bet or check?

Poker Stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: t1500 M = 50
BTN: t1490 M = 49.67
SB: t1480 M = 49.33
Hero (BB): t1500 M = 50
UTG: t1500 M = 50
UTG+1: t1500 M = 50
UTG+2: t1500 M = 50
MP1: t1530 M = 51
MP2: t1500 M = 50

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with J 8
UTG calls t20, UTG+1 calls t20, 2 folds, MP2 calls t20, 1 fold, BTN calls t20, SB calls t10, Hero checks

Flop: (t120) 2 8 2 (6 players)
SB checks, Hero
In such a dry board I'd prefer checking;more inclined to betting on a more drawy board.
07-10-2010 , 08:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ok1989
In such a dry board I'd prefer checking;more inclined to betting on a more drawy board.
I see this the other way around and usually check-give up when first to act in a family pot on a 682 board. Here I don't hate taking down 120 chips. Toughts?
07-10-2010 , 09:09 PM
Agree with Malin on principle, more inclined to check on a drawy board since we don't improve much later as opposed to the drawing lot and get much calls from them.

As for this board, 6-way the chance of a better hand out is significant imo, also stupid calls from overcards, etc...Pretty close. I checked
and called a minbet on the K turn

Now for the new hand - BB's call seems pretty bad rite? What should he call with, I'm like pretty wide there.

Poker Stars $6.00+$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t800/t1600 Blinds + t75 - 3 players
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BB: t25902 M = 9.87
Hero (BTN): t38030 M = 14.49
SB: t3568 M = 1.36

Pre Flop: (t2625) Hero is BTN with J K
Hero raises to t37955 all in, SB calls t2693 all in, BB calls t24227 all in

Flop: (t55372) K J 6 (3 players - 3 are all in)

Turn: (t55372) 3 (3 players - 3 are all in)

River: (t55372) 7 (3 players - 3 are all in)

Final Pot: t55372
BB shows 5 5 (a pair of Fives)
Hero shows J K (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
SB shows K 8 (a pair of Kings)
Hero wins t44668
Hero wins t10704
07-10-2010 , 09:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blind squirrel
Agree with Malin on principle, more inclined to check on a drawy board since we don't improve much later as opposed to the drawing lot and get much calls from them.

As for this board, 6-way the chance of a better hand out is significant imo, also stupid calls from overcards, etc...Pretty close. I checked
and called a minbet on the K turn

Now for the new hand - BB's call seems pretty bad rite? What should he call with, I'm like pretty wide there.

Poker Stars $6.00+$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t800/t1600 Blinds + t75 - 3 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: t25902 M = 9.87
Hero (BTN): t38030 M = 14.49
SB: t3568 M = 1.36

Pre Flop: (t2625) Hero is BTN with J K
Hero raises to t37955 all in, SB calls t2693 all in, BB calls t24227 all in

Flop: (t55372) K J 6 (3 players - 3 are all in)

Turn: (t55372) 3 (3 players - 3 are all in)

River: (t55372) 7 (3 players - 3 are all in)

Final Pot: t55372
BB shows 5 5 (a pair of Fives)
Hero shows J K (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
SB shows K 8 (a pair of Kings)
Hero wins t44668
Hero wins t10704
If he called with 66 or something I'd give him the benefit of the doubt of thinking through the hand a bit. You could be shoving really wide to isolate the SB getting around 2:1 vs his ATC range. 33 is obviously terrible on his part, you'd have to be shoving like 160% of hands for that to be correct. I'm not sure what ICM dictates in this spot, but if I'm in his shoes I'm calling something like A5+, A2s+, KQ, KJs+, 66+.
07-10-2010 , 09:49 PM
Yeah I think his 55 is a fold, even tho I certainly shove top 50-60% or so there. I think 88, 99 is still pretty ugly for example.
07-11-2010 , 06:07 AM
Sorry I was drunk when I posted, he didn't have 33 lol... In a 6.50 it's a weird spot for me because I can't assume you are smart enough to shove wide to iso, so I'm calling less than in a $26 where I'd be putting you on 60-80%.
07-11-2010 , 10:28 AM
How's my (readless) resteal? ...

Poker Stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t200/t400 Blinds + t50 - 7 players
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CO: t8155 M = 8.58
Hero (BTN): t9225 M = 9.71
SB: t10665 M = 11.23
BB: t4410 M = 4.64
UTG: t350 M = 0.37
UTG+1: t6417 M = 6.75
MP: t4172 M = 4.39

Pre Flop: (t950) Hero is BTN with 9 T
3 folds, CO raises to t1100, Hero raises to t9175 all in

      
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