Quick question regarding 180 mans at Stars: turbo or non-turbo?

1. In terms of hourly rate (and multi-tabling), which one is better? From what I've seen, top regs playing turbo 180 mans had ROI of 30-35%, but I don't know what is attainable/sustainable ROI at non-turbo ones (although it should be way higher). Also, turbo tables were obviously filling faster than non-turbo ones. Do these factors kinda even out, or one is better than another?

2. What about BR management? I guess 100-120 BI's should be enough for non-turbo ones, and maybe 200+ for turbo ones?

Another odds spot. Easy call right? no reads



Poker Stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t400/t800 Blinds + t75 - 7 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

SB: t2102 M = 1.22
Hero (BB): t7403 M = 4.29
UTG: t3935 M = 2.28
UTG+1: t19742 M = 11.44
MP: t7631 M = 4.42
CO: t4735 M = 2.74
BTN: t12945 M = 7.50

Pre Flop: (t1725) Hero is BB with K 9
UTG raises to t3860 all in, 4 folds, SB calls t1627 all in, HERO?

I think it's generally considered the speed of the turbo outweighs the extra ROI from regular speed tournaments.

200 BI is the generic advice nowadays. You can be more aggressive with your BR if you're playing lower buyins (easier competition means better ROI) or are willing to drop down in stakes in a downswing quickly. I'd point you to MJBuddy's post upthread, but it seems like that was posted in response to a similar question you had.

Thanks a bunch sopoRific, I'd give turbo 180s a try.

shove i mean, i thought he shoved SB vs BB 9BB effective.

regarding turbos or non turbos, obv the ROI in non turbos is higher but you can put in more volume at non turbos, especially at the $10$ level.

if you like turbos play turbos since you can move up from $2 to $11 after a while whereas moving up from $4 to $10 at the non turbos is not possible since they fill up to slowly.

Poker Stars No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t2500.00/t5000.00 Blinds - 3 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

BTN: t76424.00 15.28 BBs
SB: t154929.00 30.99 BBs
Hero (BB): t38647.00 7.73 BBs

Pre Flop: (t7500) Hero is BB with A 3
1 fold, SB raises to t154429, Hero ??

op aggro, snap call right?

snap call

$2.20 180 man...

Do you shove here?

thanks

Poker Stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t500/t1000 Blinds + t100 - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

MP1: t4991 M = 2.17
MP2: t9201 M = 4.00
CO: t9300 M = 4.04
BTN: t2770 M = 1.20
SB: t17536 M = 7.62
BB: t11615 M = 5.05
UTG: t10123 M = 4.40
Hero (UTG+1): t5600 M = 2.43

Pre Flop: (t2300) Hero is UTG+1 with 9 T

UTG Folds

Calling looks okay here.

I would.

Shove

me2...
good hand against a calling range from the other players

What do you think? What are you shoving here?

Poker Stars $3.00+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t400/t800 Blinds + t50 - 7 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

BTN: t5418 M = 3.50
SB: t1963 M = 1.27
BB: t6221 M = 4.01
UTG: t9514 M = 6.14
Hero (UTG+1): t5960 M = 3.85
MP: t2522 M = 1.63
CO: t3543 M = 2.29

Pre Flop: (t1550) Hero is UTG+1 with 8 K
1 fold, Hero raises to t5910 all in, 2 folds, BTN calls t5368 all in, 2 folds

Flop: (t12286) 3 6 5 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: (t12286) 5 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t12286) 4 (2 players - 2 are all in)

I fold

Villain is 34/12 over 74 hands w/ 8% 3b pre. Never really know what to do in these spots w/ 77, 88 and 99

This is the final table of a regular 45 man

Poker Stars $5.00+$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t300/t600 Blinds + t50 - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

MP1: t11067 M = 8.51
MP2: t10605 M = 8.16
CO: t4052 M = 3.12
BTN: t2310 M = 1.78
SB: t6700 M = 5.15
BB: t4060 M = 3.12
Hero (UTG): t17416 M = 13.40
UTG+1: t11290 M = 8.68

Pre Flop: (t1300) Hero is UTG with 8 8
Hero raises to t1560, 1 fold, MP1 raises to t2520

Close to the final table. Flatter is 18/12 over 74 hands


Poker Stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t1000/t2000 Blinds + t200 - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

CO: t9391 M = 2.24
BTN: t40875 M = 9.73
SB: t39951 M = 9.51
Hero (BB): t19679 M = 4.69
UTG: t32321 M = 7.70
MP: t6390 M = 1.52

Pre Flop: (t4200) Hero is BB with 9 9
2 folds, CO raises to t9191 all in, 1 fold, SB calls t8191, Hero raises to t19479 all in

^^

1) r/f
2) std shove

Furo are you sure r/f is good in hand 1 with 8-9M effective stacks?

obviously we are calling the small stacks but..

meh, openshoving is not horrible either I think.

I find these spots kinda tricky. Obv I don't wanna fold 99 w/ 15BB and and shoving seems a good option with the dead money in the pot, but maybe raise/call is worth considering? What would you do here?


Full Tilt Poker $12 + $1 KO No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t150/t300 Blinds + t25 - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

MP2: t7845 M = 12.07
CO: t5245 M = 8.07
BTN: t9100 M = 14
SB: t6950 M = 10.69
BB: t3725 M = 5.73
UTG: t4435 M = 6.82
UTG+1: t5265 M = 8.10
Hero (MP1): t4660 M = 7.17

Pre Flop: (t650) Hero is MP1 with 9 9
2 folds, Hero raises to t4635 all in,

We're down to 10 players in $24 45max. I have been pushing pretty often and picking up the pots more than my share, so they might look me up at some point.

And now I'm dealt 33. I kinda wanna push here, but the thing is my equity is not that great if called, and I think there is a considerable probability of them calling me somewhat light here.

Thoughts? Is passing this spot okay?


Full Tilt Poker $24 + $2 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t250/t500 Blinds - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

CO: t5404 10.81 BBs
BTN: t4390 8.78 BBs
SB: t6263 12.53 BBs
BB: t12700 25.40 BBs
Hero (UTG): t6060 12.12 BBs

Pre Flop: (t750) Hero is UTG with 3 3
Hero wonders

Poker Stars $11+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t3000/t6000 Blinds + t600 - 3 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

Hero (BB): t81786 M = 7.57
BTN: t114170 M = 10.57
SB: t74044 M = 6.86

Pre Flop: (t10800) Hero is BB with T 9
BTN calls t6000, 1 fold, Hero checks

Flop: (t16800) Q 8 J (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets t18000, Hero calls t18000

Turn: (t52800) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets t18000, Hero raises to t57186 all in, BTN calls t39186



played ok? his flop bet made me think he is bit weak, and wanna take pot down now, so I thought he wouldn`t call push, turn bet made me think, he hit 2nd 8 or still is on FD and wanna take pot cheaply.. played ok ?

Poker Stars $11+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t500/t1000 Blinds + t100 - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

Hero (BTN): t25325 M = 11.01
SB: t6365 M = 2.77
BB: t17979 M = 7.82
UTG: t8268 M = 3.59
UTG+1: t2039 M = 0.89
MP1: t3375 M = 1.47
MP2: t5205 M = 2.26
CO: t15692 M = 6.82

Pre Flop: (t2300) Hero is BTN with 9 5
5 folds, Hero raises to t2000, 1 fold, BB calls t1000

Flop: (t5300) 5 6 T (2 players)
BB bets t2000, Hero calls t2000

Turn: (t9300) A (2 players)
BB bets t2000, Hero raises to t5500, BB calls t3500

River: (t20300) J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets ???



op losing "regular" i think. 20 or 21 left, so bubble, against these kind of players i like to play post flop, I think Turn card was ideal for me, and River was good too, because I think he cant call with his T, the only exception if he had JT than pretty sad... what you say about play?

shove pre

feelin super good right now... a big cash on an MTT
$3 rebuy rush turbo.. it's sooooo quick i love rush. tourney ended in 3hrs... 1100 runners

finished 3rd for 1.9k!!! in a $3 donkament. in 3 hours.
gotta loveeee rush poker

Congrats! But a rush tourney w/ 1100 runners does not belong to 18-180 man SNG :P

Poker Stars $11+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t400/t800 Blinds + t75 - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

UTG+1: t23129 M = 12.34
UTG+2: t15645 M = 8.34
MP1: t13520 M = 7.21
MP2: t21768 M = 11.61
CO: t3265 M = 1.74
Hero (BTN): t8825 M = 4.71
SB: t7830 M = 4.18
BB: t16029 M = 8.55
UTG: t6655 M = 3.55

Pre Flop: (t1875) Hero is BTN with 9 9
3 folds, MP1 raises to t12000, 2 folds, hero?????

Randomized villain